Post by: Lincoln4 on December 27, 2012, 08:47:11 AM
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons (http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons)
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 27, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 27, 2012, 09:13:31 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 27, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
Time to start emailing and writing your reps.
Post by: Mauser on December 27, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 27, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
So between this and obumblescare.. the ATF and the IRS become the 2 most powerful agencies in the government almost overnight... very very scary.
HEY MAGGIE.... YOU said, this would NEVER HAPPEN.... WHEN YOU GONNA ADMIT YOUR ARE JUST AS WRONG AS THE REST, and quite drinking the kool aid...
Post by: Bean Counter on December 27, 2012, 09:24:11 AM
Republicans have a 33 seat margin in the house. That means 18 would have to defect and 100% of democrats would have to be on board. I pray to God that doesn't happen.
Call or email your reps.
Post by: Big10gauge on December 27, 2012, 09:30:29 AM
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 (http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495)
Post by: Wenatcheejay on December 27, 2012, 09:35:30 AM
Bring back the (D) of old and I'll stand with it but this breed of Socialists, Never.
Post by: Bean Counter on December 27, 2012, 09:38:42 AM
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Post by: lokidog on December 27, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
Obtain your registration sticker today!
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That's not far away from what a lot of them want.... :bash:
It's California--How else are they gonna pay for all their welfare programs? :dunno:
I think this a national thing, not just Kalifornia. If it was just them, who would care... unless you are stuck living there for some reason.
Post by: Machias on December 27, 2012, 09:58:25 AM
Well since even MSNBC is actually saying the AR15 wasn't used in the shooting it would be a hard sell at this point.
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 (http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495)
This was one of the initial reportings, later found to be false. He did in fact use the Bushmaster on the children... A shotgun was found in the truck.
Post by: magnanimous_j on December 27, 2012, 10:15:57 AM
HEY MAGGIE.... YOU said, this would NEVER HAPPEN.... WHEN YOU GONNA ADMIT YOUR ARE JUST AS WRONG AS THE REST, and quite drinking the kool aid...
I don’t want gun restrictions any more than you do. I knew when I supported the Democrats that they tend to favor these kinds of restrictions and that was weighed heavily into my decision. At the end of the day, the Democrats pros outweighed the cons and I made a difficult choice. I would assume that for most of you, the choice to vote Republican wasn’t totally easy either. It’s part of being an adult and living in a world that’s mainly shades of gray.
Occasionally since the election, I’ve had tinges of buyer’s remorse and 2nd guessing, but those go away pretty quickly when I remember the carnival of nutbars the Republicans brought to the table this year. I’m not even sure that Romney would do anything differently in regards to guns, given his history with restrictions while he was a Governor. Remember, W was a supporter of the AWB and only begrudgingly let it expire, as he had bigger fish to fry at the time.
What’s important to remember, is that Feinstein is an opportunist who has been pushing gun legislation for a long time. Is the climate better now than if the Republicans were running the show? Maybe, maybe not. But her window is closing; the CT tragedy is losing steam. Most importantly, is that legislation proposed is NOT a done deal. The sheer cost of what she is proposing is enormous, especially if we go off the fiscal cliff in a few days. The NRA will fight tooth and nail, and the public will lose interest as the waters get muddied.
I’m not saying that we are guaranteed to escape this totally unscathed, but I personally don’t believe it will be nearly as bad as the AWB, and nowhere near the falling skies and last stand scenarios that are getting bandied around the internet these days.
Post by: Huntbear on December 27, 2012, 10:17:42 AM
:yeah:
Republicans have a 33 seat margin in the house. That means 18 would have to defect and 100% of democrats would have to be on board. I pray to God that doesn't happen.
Call or email your reps.
I have fired off no less than 5 emails in the last few days over this issue. I know they are all on Holiday break.. but they will be sitting there when they get back, probably with a few more now.
Post by: Machias on December 27, 2012, 10:19:31 AM
HEY MAGGIE.... YOU said, this would NEVER HAPPEN.... WHEN YOU GONNA ADMIT YOUR ARE JUST AS WRONG AS THE REST, and quite drinking the kool aid...
I don’t want gun restrictions any more than you do. I knew when I supported the Democrats that they tend to favor these kinds of restrictions and that was weighed heavily into my decision. At the end of the day, the Democrats pros outweighed the cons and I made a difficult choice. I would assume that for most of you, the choice to vote Republican wasn’t totally easy either. It’s part of being an adult and living in a world that’s mainly shades of gray.
Occasionally since the election, I’ve had tinges of buyer’s remorse and 2nd guessing, but those go away pretty quickly when I remember the carnival of nutbars the Republicans brought to the table this year. I’m not even sure that Romney would do anything differently in regards to guns, given his history with restrictions while he was a Governor. Remember, W was a supporter of the AWB and only begrudgingly let it expire, as he had bigger fish to fry at the time.
What’s important to remember, is that Feinstein is an opportunist who has been pushing gun legislation for a long time. Is the climate better now than if the Republicans were running the show? Maybe, maybe not. But her window is closing; the CT tragedy is losing steam. Most importantly, is that legislation proposed is NOT a done deal. The sheer cost of what she is proposing is enormous, especially if we go off the fiscal cliff in a few days. The NRA will fight tooth and nail, and the public will lose interest as the waters get muddied.
I’m not saying that we are guaranteed to escape this totally unscathed, but I personally don’t believe it will be nearly as bad as the AWB, and nowhere near the falling skies and last stand scenarios that are getting bandied around the internet these days.
I believe he's pretty much right.
Post by: Huntbear on December 27, 2012, 10:23:38 AM
He's pretty much right.HEY MAGGIE.... YOU said, this would NEVER HAPPEN.... WHEN YOU GONNA ADMIT YOUR ARE JUST AS WRONG AS THE REST, and quite drinking the kool aid...
I don’t want gun restrictions any more than you do. I knew when I supported the Democrats that they tend to favor these kinds of restrictions and that was weighed heavily into my decision. At the end of the day, the Democrats pros outweighed the cons and I made a difficult choice. I would assume that for most of you, the choice to vote Republican wasn’t totally easy either. It’s part of being an adult and living in a world that’s mainly shades of gray.
Occasionally since the election, I’ve had tinges of buyer’s remorse and 2nd guessing, but those go away pretty quickly when I remember the carnival of nutbars the Republicans brought to the table this year. I’m not even sure that Romney would do anything differently in regards to guns, given his history with restrictions while he was a Governor. Remember, W was a supporter of the AWB and only begrudgingly let it expire, as he had bigger fish to fry at the time.
What’s important to remember, is that Feinstein is an opportunist who has been pushing gun legislation for a long time. Is the climate better now than if the Republicans were running the show? Maybe, maybe not. But her window is closing; the CT tragedy is losing steam. Most importantly, is that legislation proposed is NOT a done deal. The sheer cost of what she is proposing is enormous, especially if we go off the fiscal cliff in a few days. The NRA will fight tooth and nail, and the public will lose interest as the waters get muddied.
I’m not saying that we are guaranteed to escape this totally unscathed, but I personally don’t believe it will be nearly as bad as the AWB, and nowhere near the falling skies and last stand scenarios that are getting bandied around the internet these days.
I believe he's pretty much right.
I hope and pray that is what happens... because Americans will be shooting Americans, neighbors shooting neighbors if this goes badly ......
Post by: runamuk on December 27, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
:chuckle: :chuckle:
He's pretty much right.HEY MAGGIE.... YOU said, this would NEVER HAPPEN.... WHEN YOU GONNA ADMIT YOUR ARE JUST AS WRONG AS THE REST, and quite drinking the kool aid...
I don’t want gun restrictions any more than you do. I knew when I supported the Democrats that they tend to favor these kinds of restrictions and that was weighed heavily into my decision. At the end of the day, the Democrats pros outweighed the cons and I made a difficult choice. I would assume that for most of you, the choice to vote Republican wasn’t totally easy either. It’s part of being an adult and living in a world that’s mainly shades of gray.
Occasionally since the election, I’ve had tinges of buyer’s remorse and 2nd guessing, but those go away pretty quickly when I remember the carnival of nutbars the Republicans brought to the table this year. I’m not even sure that Romney would do anything differently in regards to guns, given his history with restrictions while he was a Governor. Remember, W was a supporter of the AWB and only begrudgingly let it expire, as he had bigger fish to fry at the time.
What’s important to remember, is that Feinstein is an opportunist who has been pushing gun legislation for a long time. Is the climate better now than if the Republicans were running the show? Maybe, maybe not. But her window is closing; the CT tragedy is losing steam. Most importantly, is that legislation proposed is NOT a done deal. The sheer cost of what she is proposing is enormous, especially if we go off the fiscal cliff in a few days. The NRA will fight tooth and nail, and the public will lose interest as the waters get muddied.
I’m not saying that we are guaranteed to escape this totally unscathed, but I personally don’t believe it will be nearly as bad as the AWB, and nowhere near the falling skies and last stand scenarios that are getting bandied around the internet these days.
I believe he's pretty much right.
Post by: Machias on December 27, 2012, 10:25:21 AM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on December 27, 2012, 10:47:08 AM
It is easy to point out that some people, a majority in Washington State voted for Obama. That does not mean they all support Gun Restriction or Confiscation. I am asking them to speak out and rally their ilk to do so.
I spoke out against G W Bush and his spending. I spoke out against his keeping his cabinet in check after reelection. I believe that hurt him and all Republicans. And yes, I voted for him.
It is possible to vote for someone and speak out against later policy if you don't believe in it.
Hoping that the AWB "isn't as bad as it could be" isn't a strategy. It seems that the term, "Hope" has taken the place of "Pray." I believe in praying, but keep rowing for shore.
Post by: KFhunter on December 27, 2012, 10:53:02 AM
NRA endorsed Reid, and Reid got a 61 million earmark for a gun range in NV and enjoys an NRA rating of A+
Without the NRA, Reid would *probably* have lost the election.
Reid and NRA are in bed together
Post by: csaaphill on December 27, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
Post by: csaaphill on December 27, 2012, 07:08:33 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on December 27, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) signaled Monday that gun control laws would be up for debate after the horror at Sandy Hook Elementary School, making him the highest-ranking pro-gun politician in the nation to hint that his mind may be changing.
Mourning the victims of the Friday massacre along with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Reid said that the community of Newtown and the country face a difficult time coping with the immensity of the tragedy. But, unlike with past shooting sprees, he said that coping will include considering what Congress can do about the devastating violence.
"I believe part of that healing process will require Congress to examine what can be done to prevent more tragedies like the ones in Newtown, Conn.; Aurora, Colo.; Oak Creek, Wis.; and Portland, Ore.," Reid said, referring to other recent mass slayings.
"As President Obama said last night, no one law can erase evil. No policy can prevent a determined madman from committing a senseless act of violence," he said. "But we need to accept the reality that we are not doing enough to protect our citizens.
Post by: netcoyote on December 27, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
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From the huff post;
WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) signaled Monday that gun control laws would be up for debate after the horror at Sandy Hook Elementary School, making him the highest-ranking pro-gun politician in the nation to hint that his mind may be changing.
Putting a topic up for debate and putting it up for a vote are two entirely different critters. Reid will be under too much pressure to not let this get discussed. He's pretty safe with that knowing it will get talked to death and the blame will not be on him. Remember, these guys haven't even passed a budget in over three years.
Post by: csaaphill on December 27, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
Yes this could be all premature and hopefully something different comes to light, but something is very different this time.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on December 27, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
The ability to enforce, they can't stop drugs, prostitution, crime, or even a budget. These are the biggest clowns I have ever seen in my life. They would be laughable if it weren't so serious.
I could see a mass exodus to free States if this passes. Will they make it illegal to move?
With the proposed income taxes they really do need to take "The People's" right to oppose away. These clowns plan to take everything away from everyone. By stupidity or design they are going to run this Nation into the ground.
http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/exit-stage-left-california-s-proposed-departure-tax (http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/exit-stage-left-california-s-proposed-departure-tax)
Post by: csaaphill on December 27, 2012, 11:34:14 PM