Post by: sled on January 01, 2013, 04:23:07 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on January 01, 2013, 04:26:34 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 01, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 01, 2013, 04:35:57 PM
Post by: sled on January 01, 2013, 04:47:04 PM
That's normal for those rounds. They are the varmint bullets with polymer tips. I think I used to get them for 12.99 or 13.99 a box before the rush. I'm waiting to see what happens to the fmj rounds. They shouldn't go over 8 or 9 a box if unless they wanna screw us.that was the price for the fmj, and varmint ropes.
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2013, 04:54:58 PM
I heard that as of Jan 1 they got hit by a huge tax, sin tax if you will. %75 tax imposed by the govt. Not sure if its true, I heard about it but thought it might be fear mongering.....
Fear mongering, or justifacation for high prices? Havent heard anything about a taxe increase Bone..
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 01, 2013, 06:13:32 PM
That's normal for those rounds. They are the varmint bullets with polymer tips. I think I used to get them for 12.99 or 13.99 a box before the rush. I'm waiting to see what happens to the fmj rounds. They shouldn't go over 8 or 9 a box if unless they wanna screw us.that was the price for the fmj, and varmint ropes.
Oh I didn't see any fmj at the post falls, only varmint. That's spendy for fmj
Post by: Wea300mag on January 01, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2013, 06:47:04 PM
I'm sure glad I stocked up in late Nov, I even bought bulk ammo for a gun I'm planning on buying. :):tup:
Post by: boneaddict on January 01, 2013, 06:47:21 PM
I heard that as of Jan 1 they got hit by a huge tax, sin tax if you will. %75 tax imposed by the govt. Not sure if its true, I heard about it but thought it might be fear mongering.....
Fear mongering, or justifacation for high prices? Havent heard anything about a taxe increase Bone..
I thought it was extreme. I figured that would be all over this site if it were true. :chuckle:
Post by: mountainman on January 01, 2013, 06:52:21 PM
I heard that as of Jan 1 they got hit by a huge tax, sin tax if you will. %75 tax imposed by the govt. Not sure if its true, I heard about it but thought it might be fear mongering.....
Fear mongering, or justifacation for high prices? Havent heard anything about a taxe increase Bone..
I thought it was extreme. I figured that would be all over this site if it were true. :chuckle:
Aint that the truth! :) Hey Bone, did you get a chance to do any hunting back home up north at all this year? Wolves are moving in again! (Dont tell sister Lori tho!) :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on January 01, 2013, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 01, 2013, 08:46:48 PM
FMJ's are $9.99 a box on their website.That's normal for those rounds. They are the varmint bullets with polymer tips. I think I used to get them for 12.99 or 13.99 a box before the rush. I'm waiting to see what happens to the fmj rounds. They shouldn't go over 8 or 9 a box if unless they wanna screw us.that was the price for the fmj, and varmint ropes.
http://m.cabelas.com/cabelas/product?cid=&id=734598 (http://m.cabelas.com/cabelas/product?cid=&id=734598)
:dunno:
Post by: jackelope on January 01, 2013, 08:48:15 PM
http://m.cabelas.com/cabelas/product?cid=&id=1410669 (http://m.cabelas.com/cabelas/product?cid=&id=1410669)
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
Post by: wadu1 on January 01, 2013, 08:56:05 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 01, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
I went there looking for 5.7x28 rounds and they didn't have any at any price. anyone know who has any besides gunbrokers?
I see threads on ar15.com from 6 months ago that stuff was nowhere to be found.
Post by: gasman on January 01, 2013, 09:04:34 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2013, 09:05:38 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto1_zpsa32ef8a6.jpg&hash=2771fd49221c3249505aaf8d59889a25f1584630)
Post by: huntnphool on January 01, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
I nabbed up the last 600 rounds(5.7x28) I could find in Wenatchee.I was thinking about picking up a AR upper.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto1_zpsa32ef8a6.jpg&hash=2771fd49221c3249505aaf8d59889a25f1584630)
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2013, 09:10:47 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 01, 2013, 09:13:01 PM
I keep hearing about a 500% tax on ammo but know nothing about it :dunno::yike: I don't want to hear about that! But archery/muzzy seasons might get crowded if that happened.
Post by: actionshooter on January 01, 2013, 09:20:55 PM
Its been scarce for a long time, feeling a little sorry about the guys who are just finding out!!I went there looking for 5.7x28 rounds and they didn't have any at any price. anyone know who has any besides gunbrokers?
I see threads on ar15.com from 6 months ago that stuff was nowhere to be found.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 01, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
Post by: saylean on January 01, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
Post by: Huntbear on January 01, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
What is once fired brass going for now? if you can find any? :dunno: :dunno:
Post by: Bean Counter on January 01, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
Post by: sled on January 01, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
The prices of ammo have not changed over the last few months there. Different brands etc in the same caliber cost differently. One of the biggest price increases in ammo is coming from the shipping changes. No longer can you ship ammo ORM-D.hate to call BS but before the election I bought some. Went back tonight and the price is double now. Know what I saw. But then again they do have a problem with mis pricing things.
Post by: jackelope on January 01, 2013, 09:49:21 PM
Post by: B.G.hunter on January 01, 2013, 10:07:38 PM
There was a pretty good price increase in august from almost all manufactures of ammo. So most retailers and distributors stocked up for the coming year. but now that demand has exhausted the supply. The store you bought it at before may have running a sale of $6 or $7 to get people in the door. Making no money on the product just trying get customers to buy other things. So now the stores are putting a "regular" mark up on the ammo because people are coming to get it without a "sale". There is going to be more price increases in the next few months also. The days of cheep 223 might be over. I would say 8.99-9.99 should be a fair price for 20 rounds of FMJ. Unless you fined re-manufactured stuff.The prices of ammo have not changed over the last few months there. Different brands etc in the same caliber cost differently. One of the biggest price increases in ammo is coming from the shipping changes. No longer can you ship ammo ORM-D.hate to call BS but before the election I bought some. Went back tonight and the price is double now. Know what I saw. But then again they do have a problem with mis pricing things.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on January 02, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
Do their prices vary from in-store to Online?
Nope, they have to be the same. If you find something in the store that is marked higher than the online price, sometimes the price change is done at the register. If not, talk to someone and they will have to honor the lowest price.
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2013, 05:19:02 AM
One of the biggest price increases in ammo is coming from the shipping changes. No longer can you ship ammo ORM-D.
When did this happen and how is it suppossed to be shipped? I am still shipping ammo ORM-D as of the week before x-mas and the website doesn't say anything about any changes. Also, better tell the folks at the UPS and Fedex counters, cause they don't know about this change either.
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
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The Department of Transportation (DOT) has adopted new regulations that impact domestic shipping through the elimination of the transportation mechanism for limited quantity hazardous materials currently reclassified as ORM-D.
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Cartridges, Small Arms, ORM-D (IDG) becomes UN0012, Cartridges, Small Arms, 1.4S (ADG).
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Per DOT regulations, Limited Quantity shipments may be shipped under certain classifications:
Type of ShipmentDescription of ClassificationLabels
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Post by: Huntbear on January 02, 2013, 09:32:48 AM
I can not buy ammo online anymore? :dunno: :dunno:
Or is going to be so expensive that no one can really afford it?
Also, WTF, is with these UN numbers they keep referring to??
Post by: gasman on January 02, 2013, 01:07:45 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Talked to a guy I know today who manages an industrial supply company and he told me it was an 8 hour class.
The folks at Fedex haven't said a word about this, but I haven't tried to shipp ammo in the last 2 days either.
Post by: Arnbo on January 03, 2013, 08:21:50 AM
Cost me$62.00 at Yeagers 6 years ago It is now well over twice that amount.
Wally World Remington golden Boy ammo550 rounds. $$8.69. Five years ago.
Now they have cut the rounds down to 225 and raised price to $19.99
They say if and when the Zombies come?...Hell the house full of Meth heads down the road say they are already here............ :drool: