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Title: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: kingfisher82 on January 01, 2013, 06:14:17 PM
Just got my wife a .243 savage with a redfield 6-18x 44. and trying to get her on coyotes on the east side for good winter coats. She always talked about going over near Vantage to go. Anyone know of some nice wide open places 
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: bigtex on January 01, 2013, 06:16:02 PM
Lots of huntable public land (BOR, BLM WDFW, DNR) around Crab Creek. But USFWS lands are CLOSED to coyote hunting.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: kingfisher82 on January 01, 2013, 06:34:50 PM
Yeah we talked about crab creek but theres lots of people there. I go rock hounding there. But thanks im looking over my maps right now looking for middle of know where roads but the hard thing is what roads are open
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: GEARHEAD on January 01, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
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Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: madcow41 on January 01, 2013, 07:31:22 PM
Whats rock hounding?
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: JLS on January 01, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
Just got my wife a .243 savage with a redfield 6-18x 44. and trying to get her on coyotes on the east side for good winter coats. She always talked about going over near Vantage to go. Anyone know of some nice wide open places

Stay on the west side of the river.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: Simcoe hunter on January 01, 2013, 07:36:38 PM
Whats rock hounding?


That's when you go stone old and mean dogs when you can't afford a vet ;) >:(
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: boneaddict on January 01, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Thats when you spend too much time staring at the ground and filling your backpack with rocks instead of hunting :chuckle:


I have seen more fox there recently on the George side. 
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: kingfisher82 on January 01, 2013, 08:45:50 PM
Yeah when i was up in Beezley (272) late archery i was stalking some muleys and i was filling my pockets with cool looking rocks.  :bdid:
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: rynokron on January 01, 2013, 09:03:31 PM
Lots of huntable public land (BOR, BLM WDFW, DNR) around Crab Creek. But USFWS lands are CLOSED to coyote hunting.

Where did you find that? I know alot of it is closed to motor vehicles, but walk in hunting is allowed.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: JLS on January 01, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
The Saddle Mtns/White Bluffs USFWS land is closed to coyote hunting. 
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: buglebuster on January 01, 2013, 10:25:23 PM
The Saddle Mtns/White Bluffs USFWS land is closed to coyote hunting. 
Where do you see that?
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: bigtex on January 01, 2013, 10:38:48 PM
Lots of huntable public land (BOR, BLM WDFW, DNR) around Crab Creek. But USFWS lands are CLOSED to coyote hunting.

Where did you find that? I know alot of it is closed to motor vehicles, but walk in hunting is allowed.

http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2012-columbia.pdf (http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2012-columbia.pdf)

The only USFWS lands in WA open to coyote hunting is the Pend Orielle Refuge in NE WA.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: rynokron on January 02, 2013, 06:09:34 AM
Lots of huntable public land (BOR, BLM WDFW, DNR) around Crab Creek. But USFWS lands are CLOSED to coyote hunting.

Where did you find that? I know alot of it is closed to motor vehicles, but walk in hunting is allowed.

http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2012-columbia.pdf (http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2012-columbia.pdf)

OK. I thought you were trying to say other areas were closed. My bad.

The only USFWS lands in WA open to coyote hunting is the Pend Orielle Refuge in NE WA.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: Da stump on January 02, 2013, 06:31:37 AM
Teacherman and myself where hunting yotes a couple days ago.  We hit two with a 243 100 grn bullets and totally wasted them.  The other two we got with a 17 hmr and where perfect.  Got my 223 up and operating so we want to try that next.
Dale
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 02, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
OK, why is one of the most successful predators on earth not allowed to be hunted on the USFWS lands ?
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 02, 2013, 07:23:14 AM
 :yeah:   
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: boneaddict on January 02, 2013, 10:12:30 AM
Guess I need to figure out what USFWS stands for and what lands it includes. :yike:
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: bigtex on January 02, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
Guess I need to figure out what USFWS stands for and what lands it includes. :yike:

US Fish and Wildlife Service. Basically any "National Wildlife Refuge"

The reason it is not in any WDFW regs is that it is a federal law, not a state law. WDFW could adopt the law but haven't done so.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: bigtex on January 02, 2013, 02:16:34 PM
OK, why is one of the most successful predators on earth not allowed to be hunted on the USFWS lands ?

Not sure.

But I will say this. Under federal law all National Wildlife Refuges are closed to hunting and closed to public access. It is up to the Refuge Manager to a) open the lands to public use/visitation and b) allow trapping, hunting, fishing.  NWRs aren't "made" to be prime hunting spots, they are made to be wildlife refuges, essentially a no hunting area. So the fact that we are able to hunt and even access some NWRs is "lucky"
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 02, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
OK, why is one of the most successful predators on earth not allowed to be hunted on the USFWS lands ?

Not sure.

But I will say this. Under federal law all National Wildlife Refuges are closed to hunting and closed to public access. It is up to the Refuge Manager to a) open the lands to public use/visitation and b) allow trapping, hunting, fishing.  NWRs aren't "made" to be prime hunting spots, they are made to be wildlife refuges, essentially a no hunting area. So the fact that we are able to hunt and even access some NWRs is "lucky"

Thanks bigtex.
Title: Re: Coyote hunting near Vantage for the wife and her new gun
Post by: JLS on January 02, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
OK, why is one of the most successful predators on earth not allowed to be hunted on the USFWS lands ?

Not sure.

But I will say this. Under federal law all National Wildlife Refuges are closed to hunting and closed to public access. It is up to the Refuge Manager to a) open the lands to public use/visitation and b) allow trapping, hunting, fishing.  NWRs aren't "made" to be prime hunting spots, they are made to be wildlife refuges, essentially a no hunting area. So the fact that we are able to hunt and even access some NWRs is "lucky"

You can't shoot prairie dogs on the CMR refuge in Montana.  You can't even shine animals with a spotlight regardless of whether you have a gun or not on the CMR.  Make sure you check each individual refuge's rules.
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