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Title: Duck cleaning question
Post by: mrmoskillz on January 04, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
So if I shoot a duck and keep it on ice how long will it stay good without out being gutted?  I know it should be done right away but will a duck still be good if it is kept whole on ice for a day or 2?
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Widgeondeke on January 04, 2013, 09:44:19 PM
I've waited til the 2nd day of a weekend hunt to clean birds before.  All good. I know in Alaska they will leave the birds hanging for weeks: yes it is subzero.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: steeleywhopper on January 04, 2013, 09:47:55 PM
I usually hang em on the front porch for a week before I clean em.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: duckmen1 on January 04, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
I won't let mine sit for more than a few hours, just my preference though.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: wrangler on January 04, 2013, 10:28:27 PM
I've waited till the 2nd day of a hunt also, usually when out of town on a trip. I always pluck the breasts asap tho, even on a day hunt. again, as someone said, personal preference. some say it matters, some say it dont. my pepperoni always tastes best tho!   :tup:
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: NW-GSP on January 04, 2013, 10:31:24 PM
As long as you get the temp below 35 it will be fine, justake sure to cook to the right temp
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: JLS on January 04, 2013, 10:40:12 PM
I've gone up to a week with pheasants and never had an issue.  If it's warm I throw them in the fridge.  If it's 40 or below I hang them in the garage.  I just cleaned a pile of ducks that hung for 48 hours and they are fine.  If you're planning on plucking them, I wouldn't go much longer than that.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: xdog on January 04, 2013, 10:50:50 PM
So if I shoot a duck and keep it on ice how long will it stay good without out being gutted?  I know it should be done right away but will a duck still be good if it is kept whole on ice for a day or 2?

Yes.

My preference is that they get cleaned in the first twelve hours, but I have cleaned and eaten ducks with good results 1-7 days later.  The temperatures that they are kept at will dictate how long they keep for good table results. 

Bon Appetit.

:)
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: ducksdogsdownriggers on January 05, 2013, 09:25:42 AM
Here's a link to an article/blog written by a wild game chef on aging birds (like you age beef).  Bottom line, for ducks he suggests 1-3 days of aging, which is what I typically follow as well.  This is an excellent read: http://honest-food.net/2012/10/20/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ (http://honest-food.net/2012/10/20/on-hanging-pheasants-2/)
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: mrmoskillz on January 05, 2013, 11:23:19 AM
Great info thanks guys :tup:
Title: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Tealer on January 05, 2013, 08:18:25 PM
A long weekend is fine.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Tight Spin on January 07, 2013, 08:21:23 AM
I let mine go at least 3 days for both Ducks and Pheasants. The guy that got me hunting back in the 70's would not even think about cleaning his birds for at least 4 days. He had told me back then that the worst birds that he had even eaten were the birds that were cleaned the same day of kill
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: KevinClimbs on January 07, 2013, 08:57:06 AM
Here's a link to an article/blog written by a wild game chef on aging birds (like you age beef).  Bottom line, for ducks he suggests 1-3 days of aging, which is what I typically follow as well.  This is an excellent read: http://honest-food.net/2012/10/20/on-hanging-pheasants-2/ (http://honest-food.net/2012/10/20/on-hanging-pheasants-2/)

I second this.

I have been reading this blog for a number of years and have met Hank (the author) in person. His information has been extremely reliable for me. That site also has some great instructional resources for plucking, skinning and cooking waterfowl.   
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: fisheral87 on January 08, 2013, 12:16:21 AM
Good info.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: WSU on January 08, 2013, 12:43:17 PM
I often wait a day or two.  I will say that you are better off cleaning birds right away if the birds are shot up.  I've found that the meat around the damaged tissue gets nasty if left with a lot of blood, stomach juice, etc. on it.  I clean those birds ASAP.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: WCTaxidermy on January 10, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
As a bird Taxidermist, I can assure you that you want to at least get the gut's out of the bird as soon as you possibly can.  If you think about it, especially on ducks and geese, they have very heavy downy feathers, so dense that it keeps them dry in the water.  If you shoot one and let it sit, for any length of time, even if it's 0 degrees out, the gut's and inside of the bird are going to stay hot (about 100-105 degrees internal temp for a bird)  for a long period of time, and guess what happens?

I totally agree with the concept of wet and dry aging meat.  I wet age my brisket before I BBQ it for 30 days, but it is a clean piece of meat and sealed in Cryovac.(sp?)  I have hunted since I was old enough to carry a shotgun, and my Dad taught way back then to get the birds gutted so they can air cool and as soon a possible.  I guarantee your duck and goose meat will taste a lot better.

Now I know a lot of you won't agree with me and that is fine, but I have one question in closing.  Do all of you that don't clean your birds for hours or days do the same with your deer and elk you shoot?   
Title: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Tealer on January 10, 2013, 12:41:18 PM
Ducks and geese are not deer and elk.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: bobcat on January 10, 2013, 12:49:55 PM
I agree with WC. When I used to hunt ducks, I would get the guts out ASAP. It's common sense, really. Like he said, would you wait a few days before gutting a deer?
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: WCTaxidermy on January 10, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Ducks and geese are not deer and elk.

I understand that Ducks and Geese are not Deer and Elk.  The meat in Ducks and Geese is wild game meat, just like Deer and Elk.  It needs to be cooled off quickly just like Deer and Elk meat.  Just my opinion, that's all.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: singleshot12 on January 10, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
We used to hang them by the necks with guts still in for two weeks in cool weather, and boy were they tender and tasty
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: bobcat on January 10, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
We used to hang them by the necks with guts still in for two weeks in cool weather, and boy were they tender and tasty

  :puke:
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: singleshot12 on January 10, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
You should try it sometime , the meat ages and is actually much better than day old kill
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: LeftCoastLoren on January 10, 2013, 05:47:50 PM
When gutting/ cleaning birds at the end of the hunting day the insides MAY be SLIGHTLY warmer than the rest of the bird ( in my experiences) its not like they stay at 105 degrees for days on the inside.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: LeftCoastLoren on January 10, 2013, 05:49:28 PM
BUT if you plan on eating the heart....I'd get that out of the cavity ASAP!!  :twocents:
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Squatch200 on January 10, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
I clean mine as soon as I get home from hunting. I've also cleaned them two days later and couldnt tell the difference except they are harder to clean the longer you wait.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: JLS on January 11, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
I agree with WC. When I used to hunt ducks, I would get the guts out ASAP. It's common sense, really. Like he said, would you wait a few days before gutting a deer?

A deer has a little bigger body to cool down than a pheasant or a duck.

And yes, I do hang my deer and elk for a week if I can.  I skin them, but we're comparing apples and oranges here trying to equate deer/elk and ducks/pheasants.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: fisheral87 on January 16, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
Seems like there is more than one way to age a duck.

Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: MP123 on January 16, 2013, 11:51:28 AM
I've heard of guys aging upland birds by hanging them up by the neck until the head falls off after a couple weeks.  Never tried it myself...
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: mrmoskillz on January 16, 2013, 12:27:34 PM
Thanks guys.  The reason I asked the question was because the wife and I were filming a reality TV show and they wanted me to shoot a duck on camera and have it cleaned the next day.  I said as long as the bird would not be wasted that would be fine.  Turns out I shot a coot and had it cleaned the next day and it was fine.  I always clean my birds as soon as I get them home so they sit for 4-5hrs at most.
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: Practical Approach on January 16, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
Why would anyone want to eat a duck?????? :dunno:
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: 92xj on January 16, 2013, 12:31:47 PM
I forgot about the show!!!!!!!!!!
And a coot?! On air.  :chuckle:
Is it weird having "a different" one in the house?

Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: mrmoskillz on January 16, 2013, 12:47:59 PM
Yea it was weird.  I cant say to much about it on here but 92xj if you want to pm me I can tell you more.  I can say I had the "new wife"  clean a goose we shot the day she got there.  I knew I would catch heck from you guys for shooting a coot but I needed a kill on camera lol
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: 92xj on January 16, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
That's awesome.  I knew you couldnt talk much.... I've done good keeping it on the downlow, because I forgot about it  :chuckle:
Goodluck with everything!
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: bobcat on January 16, 2013, 12:53:50 PM
I hope you let the "new wife" eat the coot. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Duck cleaning question
Post by: mrmoskillz on January 16, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
Thank you 92xj and I wish I had more notice I would have loved to invite you over for poker night they filmed but only had a little time to get the fellas over and I know you live clear across the state.  When it is closer to airing I will put a post on here so everyone can watch it.  It should air between early Feb-early summer.
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