Post by: ICEMAN on January 05, 2013, 07:09:11 PM
Both my wife and daughter are asking if the trigger pull on the small frame lady smiths can be turned down.
Should I or not?
Pro's / Con's
What say you?
Post by: mountainman on January 05, 2013, 07:18:09 PM
Post by: jyerxa on January 06, 2013, 01:28:06 PM
Post by: JLS on January 06, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 06, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
How many shots through it? If it's brand new the trigger should smooth out over time as the metal faces wear smoother.
This was my first thought. Double action triggers seem to get better with use. I bought some snap caps and just sat and dry fired thousands of time to break in the last brand new revolver I bought. Got a lot of very cheap trigger time, and smoothed out the pull in the process.
Andrew
Post by: ICEMAN on January 06, 2013, 06:05:46 PM
I may consider a minor easing. To me it is not too difficult, but watching them both, they are really having to try hard, and re-adjust their palm to get the proper feel of the creep. Small grips do not also help. Plus, I do feel that Smith and Wesson does crank the trigger up on purpose to keep these lightweight guns in peoples hands...
Post by: yorketransport on January 06, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Plus, I do feel that Smith and Wesson does crank the trigger up on purpose to keep these lightweight guns in peoples hands...
I never thought of that, but it does make sense.
Andrew
Post by: ICEMAN on January 06, 2013, 06:20:10 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 06, 2013, 06:28:43 PM
Changing a DA trigger by even as little as one pound pull less, making things feel smoother, is a dramic change.
http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=3&mID=58 (http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=3&mID=58)
Post by: ICEMAN on January 06, 2013, 06:33:28 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 06, 2013, 06:43:22 PM
Before a custom trigger job on just about any firearm, I start with relatively inexpensive spring swaps that don't lend irreversable non-gunsmith used dremmel tools and files in places where they don't belong. :chuckle: Smiths, usually are pretty smooth, but a tad heavy.I agree, change the springs out. You can go too light on a revolver and then actually have problems with setting the primers off, seen it many times. Look here for spring kits....
Changing a DA trigger by even as little as one pound pull less, making things feel smoother, is a dramic change.
http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=3&mID=58 (http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=3&mID=58)
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/slide-firing-parts/multiple-spring-kits/miculek-revolver-spring-kit-prod1474.aspx (http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/slide-firing-parts/multiple-spring-kits/miculek-revolver-spring-kit-prod1474.aspx)
http://www.gunsprings.com/Revolvers/cID3 (http://www.gunsprings.com/Revolvers/cID3)
Post by: ICEMAN on January 06, 2013, 06:47:19 PM
Post by: 300rum on January 06, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
But what he did do was leave the springs stock and he just polished things up for me. I have had no light strikes with any primer. Some guys have to use Federal primers as they are softer, mine shoots anything including small rifle primers.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 06, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
There are many good revolver smith's out there. My old one was the best. Unfortunately he died of a heart attack at about 50yo.
But what he did do was leave the springs stock and he just polished things up for me. I have had no light strikes with any primer. Some guys have to use Federal primers as they are softer, mine shoots anything including small rifle primers.
I don't knock a gunsmith trigger job where friction points are polished up. Light hammer strikes are always a possibility when changing to lighter springs, but I've been really impressed with Wolf springs in just about any gun I've installed them in. They are a lot cheaper than a professional trigger job. That said, Smiths are usually quite smooth. Rugers, Taurus, Charter Arms and other brands are not known for being as fluid as Smith DA.
-Steve
Post by: 300rum on January 07, 2013, 07:11:06 AM
Funny, I am the opposite on springs, can't stand Wolf springs. I would say it has to do when compared to the other manufacturers, Wolf springs are way more stiff then a comparable ISMI (as an example) listed spring. I have to go down many more pounds in spring weight for a 1911 to get the same "feel" in Wolf springs. Could be different for revolver springs though. :dunno:
In a competition gun or plinker, I would have no problem changing springs in a revolver myself. In a pistol that has the chance to be used for protection, I would get it to a good Smith and Wesson gun smith. It is just too important that it goes bang every time. Really, it probably only needs to be smoothed up a little bit and polishing will do that What is a shame, though, is how easy it is to do a trigger job, I wish Smith and Wesson would just ship either with a good one (or at least a half decent one).
There are many good revolver smith's out there. My old one was the best. Unfortunately he died of a heart attack at about 50yo.
But what he did do was leave the springs stock and he just polished things up for me. I have had no light strikes with any primer. Some guys have to use Federal primers as they are softer, mine shoots anything including small rifle primers.
I don't knock a gunsmith trigger job where friction points are polished up. Light hammer strikes are always a possibility when changing to lighter springs, but I've been really impressed with Wolf springs in just about any gun I've installed them in. They are a lot cheaper than a professional trigger job. That said, Smiths are usually quite smooth. Rugers, Taurus, Charter Arms and other brands are not known for being as fluid as Smith DA.
-Steve
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 07, 2013, 07:33:11 AM
Post by: magnanimous_j on January 08, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
Just my opinion, but I’ve had revolvers for longer than anything else and learning to draw while simultaneously cocking the hammer both increases safe control of the gun and lightens the trigger pull so that first shot goes where it’s supposed to.