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Title: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: Fishhuntmike on January 16, 2013, 01:19:32 PM
Here is a little story about my bear last September.  Hope you enjoy the story.

As a child, my grandma always told me that bear lard makes the best pie crust. I didn't really think too much about it at the time, but as im growing older I decided I want to give it a try. Ive shot several bears in the past and never tried using the lard for cooking. So this year I decided to go after another bear in a spot I first hunted 29 years ago near the Idaho/Canadian boarder of Washington. My goal was to do a solo backpack hunt with my 11# Shiloh Sharps 45-110 saddle rifle. I also wanted to test out my brand new Eberlistock J34 pack to see how well it can pack in camp and pack out bear+camp. Finally, I just had to try bear lard huckleberry pie!

I drove 5 hours from my home to where I would park and start hiking. When I got there in the early afternoon under warm, wind free, sunny skys I was a little annoyed at all the vehicles I drove past. It was archery deer hunters I was guessing mostly and perhaps some huckleberry pickers. The huckleberry crop seemed to be the best that I could remember, not being a regular to this place. I packed a gallon of water with me knowing I would find little or none. I hiked up a mountain and along a ridgeline mostly at timberline and the berries were everywhere. I set up camp about 3 1/2 miles in. Then I hiked the last bit with my gun to an overlook where I shot my first bear 22 years ago. It was a beautiful setting! And I saw no one at all on my way in, so I had the place all to myself!

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I think the near full moon played a part in why I did not see any deer or bear that evening. I wasn't too disappointed though since the idea of packing a bear out of a hole in the dark didn't excite me that much.
The following morning I awoke about 45 minutes before sunrise and scrambled out of my tent. I quickly ate some granola bars and hiked a short distance to my overlook and immediately spotted 3 bears in my binoculars. The closest one was over a half mile around the basin on the opposite side and the two others were even further. None were below me in the bowl where I took a stand. I quickly memorized the big dead tree to the left of the bear and started hiking around the basin staying as high as possible and out of sight. When I got around the sun had just illuminated the area where the bear was and I could not locate it. I went beyond that bear to the other two I saw and they were also gone. It seems that they head for cover as soon as the sun comes out. I decided to hike over the next ridge after that and get to where I could find some more slopes that the sun hadn't got to yet. I was about 1 1/2 miles beyond my camp when I spotted 3 more bears. One of the bears (closest one) was slowly working its way down into the timber maybe 10 minutes ahead of the sunshine. I quickly started getting closer and I could only get glimpses of it through the trees in my rangefinder. I kept fiddling with my sight settings as I got closer and finally just set it for 100 yards since I eventually lost sight of it. Then I just still hunted down the timber where I last saw it and then heard a scratching sound so I froze. A few seconds later I saw the bear walking towards me at an angle so I quickly aimed through an opening in the dead branches and shot it. The bear (est 175 -200lbs) went about 50 yards and I shot it behind the front shoulder facing me and it came out in front of the back opposite rear leg.

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Three grueling hours later I packed that bear (boned out meat) out of a hole 500 feet down the 1 1/2 - 2 miles back to my tent. I was now out of water! I dreaded the idea of attempting to hike all the way back to the truck with the bear and camp and realized I need to put the meat in the shade and hike down 500 feet or so and get another gallon of water. So thats what I did, but it was closer to 1000 ft. That night it rained and was really windy, but morning was quiet and beautiful.

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I packed up camp.

Put everything in my pack (it worked pretty well!).

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And huffed the last 3 1/2 miles back to the truck. So no bears that day. I brought provisions to make a pie back at the truck but I was hungry and too tired to stay any longer so I picked some huckleberries and took them home with me.

I rendered some of the fat in a little pan.

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Made a fresh huckleberry pie (small one)
Put it in a dutch oven.

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Cooked it for 1 hour with 7 briquets on the bottom and nine on top

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And it came out perfect! The crust was fantastic!  Rich and buttery without any animal taste.  Better than a crisco crust pie.

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Hope it was worth reading. The load was a 0.325" meplat 540 grain (20:1 lead:tin) bullet of my own design with 93 gr swiss 1 1/2 fg +.060 wad, homemade lube, br2 primer, Starline stretched 45-110 brass.

Mike
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: combs338 on January 16, 2013, 01:21:23 PM
Great write up. Congrats!!!
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Post by: gaddy on January 16, 2013, 01:28:41 PM
sounds like a great trip. that pie looks delicious.
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 16, 2013, 01:30:18 PM
That rifle is beyond awesome!  The pie looks great too.
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Post by: bullcrazy on January 16, 2013, 02:11:39 PM
Great read!  :tup:

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Post by: sirmissalot on January 16, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Fricken awesome
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Post by: Austrian Hunter on January 16, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
I have a friend that uses all my bear fat for pie crust and its delicious!!  Great story, love it!! Congrats!!  :tup:
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Post by: quadrafire on January 16, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Awsome story. Would love a piece of that pie.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 16, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
Congrats I have always been told the same thing about bear lard. I may have to try this now :chuckle:
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Post by: fillthefreezer on January 16, 2013, 03:31:10 PM
you are the man 8) great story
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 16, 2013, 03:55:26 PM
I wanna piece of that pie!  Great story. :tup:
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Post by: Ironhead on January 16, 2013, 04:16:31 PM
That pie looks amazingly good. Thanks for the write up.
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Post by: brianmtsinc on January 16, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
Great story!  Thanks for sharing!  :tup:
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 16, 2013, 05:05:29 PM
Very nice write up!! I don't believe I would be packing a Dutch oven into my hunting area though
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 16, 2013, 05:11:31 PM
Looks like a bearish kinda place ... :tup: That pie has my mouth watering  :yeah: :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: Quackwhacker on January 16, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
I love a good berry pie! Might have to bear hunt this year.

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Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: yote on January 16, 2013, 05:39:30 PM
Thanks for the write up, excellent hunt and that makes me want to bag a bear & some berries for a pie now!!!  :drool: :tup: :drool:
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: bearhunter99 on January 16, 2013, 05:43:16 PM
Great write up and pictures.  Congratulations!
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Post by: L8NITE on January 16, 2013, 05:45:35 PM
Congrats on a well earned trophy...I felt like I was tagging along beside you as I read  your story!!! Thanks for the great write up and pics these are what makes the off season bearable and gets me excited for the up coming seasons  :tup:
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: lokidog on January 16, 2013, 05:59:25 PM
Awesome gun and great write-up.  I used bear fat to waterproof my boots once, worked great.  I think it is a great skin softener as well.  Pie crusts are definitely best with lard.
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: Fishhuntmike on January 16, 2013, 06:47:34 PM
Thanks everyone for the overwhelming kind responses.  I'm brand new to this forum and thought I'd share something.  I have just started to dig around in here and cannot believe the depth of experience and numbers of folks sharing this site!

Mike
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: Dan-o on January 16, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
This might be the coolest post in ages.....   Way to live it!
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Post by: huntnnw on January 16, 2013, 11:50:02 PM
Great write up and beautiful pics!! :tup:

That country is awesome and the bear population is ridiculous..wish more people would do their part and take bears
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Post by: ICEMAN on January 17, 2013, 06:03:57 AM
One of the best write ups all year!

Love the story and pics!!!
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 17, 2013, 06:14:40 AM
Great story, great pics.  I'm going to have to render the fat from my next bear.
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Post by: Harborhunter on January 17, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Awesome story and great pictures! 
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Post by: KimberRich on January 17, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
Beautiful country and pics.  Great write up. Keep em coming..
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Post by: Machias on January 18, 2013, 03:57:09 AM
Man I love my Dutch Oven!  Awesome write up, fantastic photos and you have succeeded in making me really homesick for that part of the state, Man I love hunting bears up there.  Thanks for sharing!!
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Post by: arees on January 18, 2013, 06:08:01 AM
Great write up, now how about a pie recipe?
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Post by: h20hunter on January 18, 2013, 06:29:14 AM
Such a good write up, ive come back and read this one about a dozen times.
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Post by: longashes on January 18, 2013, 06:36:06 AM
Great story and pictures ... Congrats on your hunt!
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Post by: buck man on January 18, 2013, 10:25:39 PM
Lived the story and pics! Or loved!  :chuckle:
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Post by: fair-chase on January 18, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
Awesome story and pics. Loved it. Congrats.
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Post by: ellensburgpo on January 18, 2013, 10:51:46 PM
Terrific write up and pictures. Congrats on the bear.
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Post by: Ripper on January 19, 2013, 12:29:18 PM
That's a great story and pic's. It looks like Gods country out there. The pie pics made me hungry.
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Post by: pd on January 19, 2013, 09:36:52 PM
Very nice.

My elder brothers often told me about "Grandma's Bear Grease Sugar Cookies," which they (supposedly) ate as young boys.  My mother (her daughter) strenuously insists that this never, ever happened.  It is now a legend in our family.  On the flip side, an uncle insists that his family only used bear grease for boot leather, but that it smelled horribly, and rotted the leather.

Good job, and nice story.
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Post by: ShaneTyTrey on January 19, 2013, 10:09:08 PM
Brady cool, thanks for sharing
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Post by: JLS on January 19, 2013, 10:22:20 PM
What a cool rifle, and a really neat story.  Congrats on the bear!  No springs in the basins?
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Post by: Fishhuntmike on January 20, 2013, 02:46:36 PM
Thanks again for all the cool comments!

I'm not planning any spring bear hunt this year.  Looking forward to another backpack bear hunt this fall however.  I'll be looking for another small one with good fat on it.  I made summer sausage with this one using hickory chips and pork fat and it is better than deer or elk sausage in my opinion.  Also made some bratwurst with apple wood.  Mmm.

My goal this year is to shoot one with my new Shiloh sharps rifle in 44-77 (44 2 1/4 SBN) using the traditional paper-patched bullet.  The 44-77 was the first chambering in the sharps bpcr rifle and was the most popular caliber at the time (early 1870's) until the 45-70 came out.
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Post by: Machias on January 21, 2013, 09:52:06 AM
Did you post the pie recipe anywhere?
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Post by: TriggerHappy on January 21, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
Man i have to say you knocked off like 5 things on my bucket list on one hunt. Welcome to the site and great write up. Now share some pie :EAT:
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Post by: ORBowHunter on February 27, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
Great write up!  That is a beautiful rifle, and great looking bear.  well done. The pie looks awesome too!  :)
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Post by: bowsandhose on February 27, 2013, 12:17:01 PM
now that's living the hunting lifestyle. you da man  :drool:
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Post by: johnr060 on March 02, 2013, 07:06:18 PM
Great story!
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Post by: TheHunt on March 08, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Where is the bear grease pie crust recipe?
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Post by: Fishhuntmike on March 10, 2013, 07:03:54 AM
Just substitute bear lard for crisco in any pie crust recipe.

I think I just used 1/3 cup lard and 1/2 tsp salt to each cup of all purpose flour.  Keep all the ingredients ice cold and don't over mix/knead.  I usually use about 4 tb ice water for each cup of four.
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 10, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
Just substitute bear lard for crisco in any pie crust recipe.

I think I just used 1/3 cup lard and 1/2 tsp salt to each cup of all purpose flour.  Keep all the ingredients ice cold and don't over mix/knead.  I usually use about 4 tb ice water for each cup of four.

Thanks Mike! :tup: :tup:
Title: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: NWWA Hunter on March 10, 2013, 10:14:27 AM
Awesome story and thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: ICEMAN on October 22, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
Bumping this great story for the guys discussing bear fat and pastry.

One of my favorite stories on here...
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Post by: Call em in on October 22, 2013, 06:50:44 PM
Most interesting story on here in a long time!  Thank you for sharing
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 22, 2013, 07:07:38 PM
Did you pack all of that cooking utensils to your camp, ie, cast iron pot, grill etc ? If you did, wholly smokes.............
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Post by: ICEMAN on October 22, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
He actually packed the bear down to his rig and cooked it up there... 
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Post by: quadrafire on October 22, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
I remember that story. Now my mouth is watering again.
That is a nice rifle by the way!!
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Post by: Windwalker on October 23, 2013, 05:24:09 PM
 Wow  :tup:- great story,  pictures, rifle and...I'm guessing the pie turned out all right too....
 I have a sudden craving for pie now... :chuckle:

 Thanks for bumping this story back up Iceman.
Title: Re: Pie-crust Bear
Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 27, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
i was looking for this recently, great someone spun it back up, tag!  :drool:
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