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Title: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 10:39:38 AM: so im going to buy a 22-250 for gp out in the woods. I really like the savage axis and its only $375. has anyone ever had or have one? Or have a better brand of 22-250? i love the 22-250 in a 55 grain bullet its amazing. so any advice would be greay. thank yoy
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bear hunter on January 17, 2013, 10:52:24 AM: My buddy had one and he hated it. Didn't group worth shot and had trouble with the trigger. I would never by one. My other buddy just picked up the new Ruger rifle. I can remember the model number but Cabala's was selling them for around 379.00. He bought one in a .243 to hunt coyotes and deer. He loves it. You should check them out. :tup:
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 17, 2013, 10:56:35 AM: A 700 or a better model Savage. I have a 700 SPS and it's a great gun.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on January 17, 2013, 10:59:19 AM: if your going for less$ the stevens i heard can be a decent shooter for the cash and can be made to shoot better if you want to upgrade
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bear hunter on January 17, 2013, 11:02:40 AM: Quote from: CAMPMEAT on January 17, 2013, 10:56:35 AM
A 700 or a better model Savage. I have a 700 SPS and it's a great gun.
:yeah: Love my 700. Like they said. You get what you pay for :tup:
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 11:05:53 AM: i wont own a 243 haha im going to use if for deer and small game im going to be moving to mt and they dont have a cal resricttion for deer. I have a rem 700 in 30-06 and love it maybe i will find a used one for cheap
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: SeaRun1 on January 17, 2013, 11:19:04 AM: Hey DDJJ,

Look into the Venture by TC. I have shot one and it was a good, accurate, and affordable rifle. They have a MOA guarantee I believe.

Make it in camo and black.

SR1
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: jrebel on January 17, 2013, 11:59:46 AM: Find an old model savage....I have the heavy barrel model 12 (I think) and it is an amazing shooter. It is kinda heavy though. You should be able to find one for around 300-350 in great shape.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 12:06:46 PM: is there something wrong with the axis or has no one shoot one? my cousin loves his he lived 2000 miles away so i cant shoot it.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: jrebel on January 17, 2013, 12:10:49 PM: I have never shot one, but everyone says they are junk. Not sure why people don't like them. Have you tried doing a google search to see what reviews they get?
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: KimberRich on January 17, 2013, 12:18:10 PM: I have one and have been happy with it for the $$.

The bolt doesn't cycle super smooth, the trigger isn't great, and it only grouped "well" IMO.

But.... What do you expect from a $339 rifle?? I thought it was spot on for the value.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 12:27:20 PM: Check out the Marlin:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/CenterfireBoltAction/x7vh.asp (http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/CenterfireBoltAction/x7vh.asp)
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: deerslyr on January 17, 2013, 01:12:22 PM: My buddy just bought an axis in 22-250. Cut the spring down on the trigger to lighten it up, hardly any creep and breaks around 3.5-4 lbs. Shoots lights out. Topped it with one of the redfields. Pretty sweet budget rifle and optics. I would also check out the new ruger all american, looks like a solid budget rifle.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: hillbilli on January 17, 2013, 01:24:03 PM: I had an older 110 series savage in .22-250, was a tack driver..
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 02:40:42 PM: okay looks like i have alot more research to do. i want something that i can shoot 3 to 400 yards well and is decently priced( 300 to 550 ) im on a budget and i want to get the best i can.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 02:58:20 PM: Howa would be another good option:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326232154 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326232154)
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: hunter-4-life on January 17, 2013, 03:13:28 PM: Quote from: deerslyr on January 17, 2013, 01:12:22 PM
My buddy just bought an axis in 22-250. Cut the spring down on the trigger to lighten it up, hardly any creep and breaks around 3.5-4 lbs. Shoots lights out. Topped it with one of the redfields. Pretty sweet budget rifle and optics. I would also check out the new ruger all american, looks like a solid budget rifle.

I Bought one last February and did the same trigger modification to it. I love it. For the price you cant beat it. Obviously if you step up to the $500 range you can get alot better. It all depends on how much you want to spend.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2013, 06:53:35 PM: The most accurate rifle I've ever owned was a bone stock Savage in 22-250. It was an honest .25", 5 shot group rifle every time you pulled the trigger. Groups in the low .2's and in the .1's were not uncommon. None of my custom guns/barrels can match that. To be fair it was one of their LRPVs. I've had excellent luck with every Savage I've owned, and there's been more than 20 of them.

I would recommend getting one with a faster twist so that you can run the full range of bullets. Mine was a 1-12 (like the Axis) and 55gr was the upper end of what it would consistently stabilize. You may want to find one with a 1-9 twist.

Andrew
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 07:15:06 PM: okay im going to start looking around for a savage then. i have a savage 22 and love it. so i dont see why they wouldnt make a good bolt action rifle
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2013, 07:53:00 PM: Check out the Stevens line from Savage. It's the same basic gun as the other Savage models, but it's just a basic stripped down gun. Simple trigger, stock, magazine. Plus, it's easy to build the gun up as funds allow. I sold that 22-250 barrel for $125 bucks. It was one of the worst decisions I ever made. You can get great barrel cheap just because some fool wants to try something different.I just got tired of only making one hole in the target when I shot. :chuckle:
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Andrew
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: longrangekiller on January 17, 2013, 08:01:51 PM: Quote from: HighCountryHunter88 on January 17, 2013, 10:59:19 AM
if your going for less$ the stevens i heard can be a decent shooter for the cash and can be made to shoot better if you want to upgrade

I have a stevens in 223 and can shoot sub moa all day long with reloads had to work little for a good load though
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 08:12:00 PM: were is the saftey located on a stevens one of the reasons i like the axis is the saftey is up top. thats the reason i bought a mossburg 500 over a rem 870 was saftey location. its a big thing to me is saftey location i dont want to have to be messing with a saftey when i can just pop it off and be done. I like the looks of the stevens rifle what model do you have?
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 08:17:07 PM: and do the hornaday 50 gr or 55 gr v max shoot well out of a stevens? i may be shooting cats with the rifle also. its going to be a gp rifle for me in wa when im not hunting big game byt when i get to MT im going to use it for deer.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 08:18:33 PM: What is a gp rifle?
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: longrangekiller on January 17, 2013, 08:21:56 PM: Its a stevens model 200 and yes it has a tang saftey and I shoot 55 gr v max they shoot very well out of it
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Dan-o on January 17, 2013, 09:38:02 PM: You can pick up the Savage 111 package deal. the rifle has the Accu-trigger so it's way better than the Savage Axis (and the pkg comes with Nikon BDC 3x9 scope).

They're often on sale for about $485, so you're out the door with a rifle that will kill yotes at 400 yards for under $500.

I am partial. I don't own a million rifles like some of these guys but I picked one up in 7MM Mag last year and it shoots lights out. I've heard others that had good success with the package as well.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 17, 2013, 09:52:51 PM: Any gun is only as good as the shooter. All guns have quirks until you get them figured out.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: longrangekiller on January 17, 2013, 10:05:54 PM: Quote from: Dan-o on January 17, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
You can pick up the Savage 111 package deal. the rifle has the Accu-trigger so it's way better than the Savage Axis (and the pkg comes with Nikon BDC 3x9 scope).

They're often on sale for about $485, so you're out the door with a rifle that will kill yotes at 400 yards for under $500.

I am partial. I don't own a million rifles like some of these guys but I picked one up in 7MM Mag last year and it shoots lights out. I've heard others that had good success with the package as well.
:tup:

Just pick up a lefty 111 for the girlfreindin 270 I've only shot it once but she's been shooting it and loves it it also group pretty good with the little ammo we have tryed so far
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 17, 2013, 10:08:37 PM: Must have been a real drag Yorke! :tup: ;) :chuckle:
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Wazukie on January 17, 2013, 10:12:11 PM: Quote from: Dan-o on January 17, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
You can pick up the Savage 111 package deal. the rifle has the Accu-trigger so it's way better than the Savage Axis (and the pkg comes with Nikon BDC 3x9 scope).

They're often on sale for about $485, so you're out the door with a rifle that will kill yotes at 400 yards for under $500.

I am partial. I don't own a million rifles like some of these guys but I picked one up in 7MM Mag last year and it shoots lights out. I've heard others that had good success with the package as well.
This package at Bi Mart for the 22.-250 is $429, at least the Bi Mart in the Dalles.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 17, 2013, 10:32:13 PM: Quote from: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
What is a gp rifle?

general purpose ( gp)
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 11:33:10 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 17, 2013, 10:32:13 PM
Quote from: bobcat on January 17, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
What is a gp rifle?

general purpose ( gp)

OK, guess I have never heard the term. Seems for general purpose it would have to be legal for everything. Which would mean a 243. Just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 12:14:20 AM: moving to MT so its legal there. and honestly with the small amount of deer that were killed in my area i think im not going to deer hunt in grays harbor. and i dislike the 243 so very much. i will never own one but thats my thoughts and if you like a 243 more ammo for you haha. but as a gp rifle we all know a 22-250 would drop a deer in a second if the shooter know anything about the rifles terminal velocity even at 55 yards using a 55 gr bullet. its something like 711 pounds compaired to the 243 at 500 yards its like 430pounds( dont quote me i estamated it) and at 500 yards usings a 55 grain 22-250 bullet it drops 21 inch compaired to the 6 feet the 243 shooting using a 75 grain bullet. like i said dont quote me its been a while since i compaired a 22-250 to a 243.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: huntmando on January 18, 2013, 07:58:15 AM: If you are still looking, I have a m-77 tang safety in very good shape I would sell for $375.
I'm in Centralia.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Curly on January 18, 2013, 11:44:40 AM: If you're going to shoot deer with it, you should get a faster twist barrel like Yorke suggested. :twocents: (So, Axis would be out).
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 05:33:33 PM: im not sure now haha lot to think about.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: derek.arnold1 on January 18, 2013, 05:43:33 PM: I bought an Axis in 223 for coyote back in march. I love the gun for the price. I got it off of buds for $290. I can shoot a nickel size shot group all day. You do get what you pay for but because the Axis has been around a couple years now they do have modifications for it. I know you can get a new trigger for it.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: iusmc2002 on January 18, 2013, 07:17:49 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 18, 2013, 12:14:20 AM
moving to MT so its legal there. and honestly with the small amount of deer that were killed in my area i think im not going to deer hunt in grays harbor. and i dislike the 243 so very much. i will never own one but thats my thoughts and if you like a 243 more ammo for you haha. but as a gp rifle we all know a 22-250 would drop a deer in a second if the shooter know anything about the rifles terminal velocity even at 55 yards using a 55 gr bullet. its something like 711 pounds compaired to the 243 at 500 yards its like 430pounds( dont quote me i estamated it) and at 500 yards usings a 55 grain 22-250 bullet it drops 21 inch compaired to the 6 feet the 243 shooting using a 75 grain bullet. like i said dont quote me its been a while since i compaired a 22-250 to a 243.

You definitely have some of those numbers backwards. The energy numbers you posted are reversed, 700ish for the .243 and 400ish for the 22-250 @ 500 yards. This is from my PointBlank Ballistics program, with a 75gr .243 and a 52gr 22-250. Granted, you said 55gr, but the difference between 52 and 55gr is VERY negligable. Also, according to that program, the drop of the .243 is just about 4 inches more than the 22-250, at 500 yards, with the 22-250 dropping around 36 inches +/-. I would imagine that if you were to step up to a heavier bullet for the 22-250, the drop would be the same as the .243, possibly more. I'm not trying to say the .243 is better than the 22-250, that's your decision. I just wanted to point out your numbers were skewed a bit.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 10:54:09 PM: the terminal volicoty is 711 for 22-250 at 500 yards you times the bullet coefficient by ft lbs i know its 8. something you get 711. do the same for the 243 and you will find that a 22-250 is way better then a 243. i didnt use a shooting chart i did it old school way before there was computers. find your bullet find find the volicity and look in your chart at the muzzle voliocity and write them down to 500 yards along with the ft lbs and then times that by your bullet coeffiency and you get your "knock down" power. the book im using is a speers and its for the 70s but i think it still works.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 18, 2013, 11:01:20 PM: I just looked at ballistics on the Remington website. Comparing the 55 grain 22-250 to the 75 grain 243, the velocity at 500 yards is almost identical, and the 243 had more than double the energy.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 11:16:18 PM: my speers book must be incorrect then.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 18, 2013, 11:19:11 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 18, 2013, 11:16:18 PM
my speers book must be incorrect then.

Well I don't know, sounds like you're calculating something other than foot-pounds of energy.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 11:22:26 PM: terminal volicity or ( knock down power) you take the ft lbs and times it by the bullet coiffeniency to find the terminal volicity. and the 22-250 has way better tv then a 243 i compaired them 2 nights ago if i was home i could get my noted
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 18, 2013, 11:22:40 PM: Try this: http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx (http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/ballistics.aspx)
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 18, 2013, 11:25:11 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 18, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
terminal volicity or ( knock down power) you take the ft lbs and times it by the bullet coiffeniency to find the terminal volicity. and the 22-250 has way better tv then a 243 i compaired them 2 nights ago if i was home i could get my noted

I don't see how that could be. A 243 with a 75 grain bullet has approximately the same velocity at 500 yards as a 55 grain 22-250.

More bullet weight, same velocity = better
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 11:32:55 PM: im not hear to argue i didnt use a shooting chart. i did it the old fasion wayokay i asked advice on a gun not to argue whats better round. haha
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: bobcat on January 18, 2013, 11:40:39 PM: Not arguing at all. Just saying your numbers are off. But I don't ever even pay any attention to energy figures. It's a meaningless number as far as I'm concerned. Nothing wrong with the 22-250. It's just that the 243 isn't quite as inferior as you're making it out to be. The advantage in the 22-250 would mainly be the fact that it would recoil less, in my opinion. As for killing animals, there isn't going to be much, if any, difference.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 18, 2013, 11:45:22 PM: thats your thoughts and i think the 22-250 is alot better round. lets leave it at that.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 10:47:06 AM: my thing was off the bullet i was compairing was a 100 grain 243 to a 55 gr 22-250 my bad.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 19, 2013, 12:03:08 PM: I second the TC Venture! Its a flat out shooter! One thing you do need to think about is most .22 cal bullets are not meant for penetration so are a VERY poor choice for Deer, especially big bodied MT bucks. I shoot v-max's out of my .243 (better round :chuckle:) and my 22-250 and they basically just explode! 58grainers out of my .243 going 3,900fps= :yike: on coyotes but I would never shoot them at deer. Nosler does make a .22 cal 60gr nosler partition that would be a good round for deer but I don't know if anyone loads them in factory rounds :dunno:
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 12:14:57 PM: you say that but have you seen what a 55 gr will do to a deers heads? and why waiste meat with shoulder shots. i hunt for meat not horns and im going to be in MT. also i will be relaoding for the 22-250. so i really dont see a problem and if i am hunting a buck ill just just my 3006 but for does ill shoot them in the head with the 22-250
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 19, 2013, 12:39:25 PM: I have shot more deer than most will in their whole life and accompanied friends and family for twice that number so yes I have seen what a fragmenting bullet does to big game and I don't like it. Have you ever seen an animals jaw shot off? If you only take head shots and you haven't seen it then you eventually will and you will probably not take them anymore after that. I recommend high neck shots, a little more room for error. Back on the subject check out the TC they are an absolute kick bu-tt budget gun. Mine is a legit .25" rifle with handloads. I had my best group and best velocity with H380 but I have a ton of IMR3031 and I was still getting .25" groups with it so I just went with it. Thats one thing I love about the 22-250 is its reloadability, almost everything shoots good!
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Raul Duke on January 19, 2013, 12:55:45 PM: Never shot a Axis , but I hunt coyotes with a Ruger M77, .22-250, and love it.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: JLS on January 19, 2013, 12:58:33 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 19, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
you say that but have you seen what a 55 gr will do to a deers heads? and why waiste meat with shoulder shots. i hunt for meat not horns and im going to be in MT. also i will be relaoding for the 22-250. so i really dont see a problem and if i am hunting a buck ill just just my 3006 but for does ill shoot them in the head with the 22-250

Use a Barnes X and you won't worry about shoulder shots.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 01:29:44 PM: high neckshots? and yes i have seen one i seen one get hit in the lefy side and blow off the jaw and take off part of its face. the deer was dead just a nasty sight. and i may just take high neck shots with the 22-250 then. the neck meat is burget in my house anyways. and with the barnes x why wouldnt i worry about shouldr shots i have never heard of it.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 01:33:17 PM: i think i can get a 55gr rem core loc for a 22-250 i think that would be enough to drop a deer if shot in the head
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: JLS on January 19, 2013, 02:45:39 PM: A Barnes X is a solid copper bullet that doesn't fragment when it hits. The fragmentation causes the meat loss.

I cringe when people talk about taking head shots, I've seen to many deer with blown off jaws and open sinus cavities from people who missed by a little bit.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: deerslyr on January 19, 2013, 03:43:43 PM: a 22-250 loaded with 60 grain partitions is a mule deer slaying machine. No need for neck or head shots either, but you can if ud like. Just put er right behind the shoulder and itll dump it right there. Seen it done plenty of times.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 19, 2013, 05:12:19 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 19, 2013, 01:29:44 PM
high neckshots? and yes i have seen one i seen one get hit in the lefy side and blow off the jaw and take off part of its face. the deer was dead just a nasty sight. and i may just take high neck*censored*s with the 22-250 then. the neck meat is burget in my house anyways. and with the barnes x why wouldnt i worry about shouldr shots i have never heard of it.
not talking about a kill I am talking about a nose getting blown off and the like. I can't imagine how much pain that animal endures from a wound like that, not to mention that whole starving to death thing! That probably takes a few weeks. High neck would be the upper third of the neck. Not a lot of meat to be lost but is pretty much a guarantee kill anywhere it hits because of all the veins, arteries, spine, and esophagus all concentrated into a narrow area. Its money! To each their own though. I would go with the corelokts for deer over a v-max all week long!
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 06:09:41 PM: well i think i will be going with a barnes x or corloct or a partitions and will be making neckshots or right behind the shoulder. thanks for sharing it would have been bad to shoot something and not kill it. i have never done that and hope to never. i respect animals. now can you get a 55 gr partition ? i love the 55 grain bullet. Like i said i will be relading the 22-250 for my owned doped up round.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 19, 2013, 07:12:41 PM: If you have never hunted montana you are gonna flip! It will make you despise hunting in washington state! Gotta love $7 o.t.c. doe tags for residents. The first year I ever hunted montana my buddies and I were super stoked to get some extra doe tags and really stuff the freezers so we bought 3 a piece plus we had buck tags. We brought home 16 deer! :bdid: I was so tired of cutting meat I ate chicken and fish for a month before I could even look at red meat!
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 07:40:24 PM: yeah i cant wait haha i plan on moving there within the end of this year. thats why im getting a 22-250. ii cant wait to have 2 or 3 deer hanging up. and when i cut meat i do it easy. burger or steak. i dont mess around with roasts or anything like that. haha
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: JLS on January 19, 2013, 07:41:00 PM: Quote from: ddjj1991 on January 19, 2013, 07:40:24 PM
yeah i cant wait haha i plan on moving there within the end of this year. thats why im getting a 22-250. ii cant wait to have 2 or 3 deer hanging up. and when i cut meat i do it easy. burger or steak. i dont mess around with roasts or anything like that. haha

What town are you moving to?
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 19, 2013, 07:56:19 PM: i use to live in great falls but i think i will be moving to deer lodge or somewere around that area.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: rainierrifleco on January 20, 2013, 08:52:00 AM: as a gunsmith i have worked on a few. biggest hunk of junk since the rem 710. get a 700 and be done with it.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 20, 2013, 11:24:35 AM: thats what i was thinking i have a rem 700 in 30-06 and its a tack driver with rem 180 corlocts. im sure i can pick up a used 700 in 22-250 for 400 to 500. a new one is 6 to 700. I can always get a new barrell.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Fishaholic on January 21, 2013, 04:26:07 PM: So i compaired the savage axis, the ruger American, and the howa 1500. I am going to just save some more money and buy a rem 700. the axis felt nice but hated the trigger and plastic mag clip. the Ruger American just felt cheap but the howa felt nice and reminded me of my rem 700 in 3006 but its made in japan and if im going to buy something im going to buy the real thing i mean i dont go to a coffee stand and get fake coffee or almost real coffee. so i nade up my mind rem 700.
Title: Re: 22-250
Post by: Curly on January 22, 2013, 12:23:48 PM: Looks like the Remington has 1:14 twist. I think you'd be better off with a Savage with 1:12 than the Remington. Why not take a look at a different model other than the cheapest Savage (Axis)? :dunno:

Take a look at Savage model 12FV. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/ (http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/)

I think Howa also has 1:14 but I can't be sure.

Probably the best thing to do would be to buy a used model 700 and rebarrel it with a new barrel with a 1:9 twist. :twocents:

Quote
.22-250 Recommended Twist Rates
223 Rem Remington barrel Twist rateThe .22-250 shoots a wide range of bullets very effectively, from 35gr flat-based varmint bullets, to ultra-long 90gr VLDs. However, you’ll need the right twist rate for your choice of bullet. For max velocity and accuracy with the lightest bullets, a 1:14″ twist may be ideal. More versatile is a 1:12″ twist that will allow you to shoot the popular 60-64 grain match bullets. For normal lead-core jacketed bullets, a true 1:9″ twist will let you shoot up to 75gr bullets (except some longer VLDs). The Hornady 75gr BTHP shoots very well in a 9-twist .22-250. Since most .22-250 Rem shooters prefer bullets in the 50-73gr range, a good “do-it-all” solution is a 9-twist.

Overall, what twist rate is best? For all-around use, including 500-600 yard ground hog matches, we like a 9-twist. That will let you shoot some pretty-high-BC bullets at long range without “choking” the lighter bullets too much. If you don’t plan to shoot at long range, a 12-twist barrel will do the job. The slower twist will give you a bit more velocity, and minimize the risk of jacket failure at high rpms. That’s one reason why the majority of factory .22-250 rifles are sold with 1:12″ twist barrels. Savage does offer some 9-twist barrel options. That’s nice if you shoot in windy conditions and need to stabilize a longer bullet. If you plan to use your .22-250 for across the course (high power) competition, you’ll want to use the 77-80 grain boat-tail match bullets. For those, we suggest an 8-twist barrel (as long as it is a true 1:8″ twist). That will let you shoot the excellent 77gr and 80gr Sierra MatchKings, and 80gr Bergers.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/22-250/ (http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/22-250/)