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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: Kevs_c10 on January 18, 2013, 12:34:12 PM
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I've been looking into making a new line of gravity fed pellet stoves for wall tents. The idea is to create a stove that is smaller with more efficient pellet use than the Clarry and better materials than the Riley.
I'm wanting to know what people would really want from a stove. What features would you like to see, price range you're willing to pay, weight of the stove, etc. My current design has half the footprint of the Clarry, the hopper stores slipped over the stove body, and the stove is around 100 lbs. (same as the Clarry) though I am looking at ways to shave off more weight. I want to see what the real need and wants are out there.
Thanks!
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Do you have any prototype models we can see, something you have already made?
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I've got a preliminary stove but it's not complete (or attractive) that was a test setup for the pellet feed and burn chamber. I'll actually be welding up a complete unit out of new steel today. I should have pictures up by Monday.
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tagging this one.
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My Dad and I bought a gravity fed stove foe a wall tent a couple of years ago. Worked great for awhile till one night it almost killed my buddy and in our sleep. The pellets got stuck in the tube and it started to smulder (sp) in the tube and smoke up in the tent. Tryed a couple of different types of pellets but came up with same results. Hopefully you can come up with a better design.Good luck
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My Dad and I bought a gravity fed stove foe a wall tent a couple of years ago. Worked great for awhile till one night it almost killed my buddy and in our sleep. The pellets got stuck in the tube and it started to smoulder (sp) in the tube and smoke up in the tent. Tryed a couple of different types of pellets but came up with same results. Hopefully you can come up with a better design.Good luck
took one to Montana this year and same thing happened. When we finally got that problem figured out and the stove burning good I was just drifting off to sleep and the giant flame shot out the back of the stove and nearly caught my brand new walltent on fire! Needless to say we toughed out the cold for the rest of the trip!
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What about a spring wound timer to keep things moving? :dunno:
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My Dad and I bought a gravity fed stove foe a wall tent a couple of years ago. Worked great for awhile till one night it almost killed my buddy and in our sleep. The pellets got stuck in the tube and it started to smulder (sp) in the tube and smoke up in the tent. Tryed a couple of different types of pellets but came up with same results. Hopefully you can come up with a better design.Good luck
My buddy had the same thing happen. Seems like a common problem.
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I have two Riley tent stoves and have used them for years and years. They now make a pellet hopper to feed pellets into their stoves. You should look on their website for ideas.
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Nobody is better than Germany at this time I think . Here is link to some products that could be your inspiration hope this helps ....... or look on google under :" Pellet kessel or pellet heizung kessel" You'd be amazed to see what is all possible ........and how automated single family heating could be ....... :tup:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pellet+heizung+kessel&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=nlb7UO7yLeL-iwLT3IHIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CFsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=878 (https://www.google.com/search?q=pellet+heizung+kessel&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=nlb7UO7yLeL-iwLT3IHIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CFsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=878)
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For me important items are
Weight
Eas of set up
Small foot print
And trouble free operation
I use cabelas wood stove that folds flat now.
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100lbs would keep me from being a buyer. My current wall tent stove is probably under 20 lbs.
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This is what we use in our wall tent. And it gets roaring with the pellets. We can make a 40lb bag last all night.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk141%2Fgreg98926%2FDSCF4379_zps35d0a72d.jpg&hash=44146915c1e51b7626334636bb40b511c99d6ab8)
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I have no experience in pellet stoves. Is 40 pounds normal for a night. Seems like an awful lot.
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I dont get the draw to pellet stoves unless your in an area with no firewood to cut. I dont know the first thing about pellet stoves so maybe someone can educate me on them. If I was planning a 7 night stay and planned on running my stove for 6+ hours every night in my 12x14 tent to stay warm, how many bags or pounds of pellets would someone need?
I would think you would need alot bags for a week trip. I dont think I would have room for much after packing everything else! :dunno:
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a couple of presto logs in a stove is the way to go.
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I dont get the draw to pellet stoves unless your in an area with no firewood to cut. I dont know the first thing about pellet stoves so maybe someone can educate me on them. If I was planning a 7 night stay and planned on running my stove for 6+ hours every night in my 12x14 tent to stay warm, how many bags or pounds of pellets would someone need?
I would think you would need alot bags for a week trip. I dont think I would have room for much after packing everything else! :dunno:
:yeah: Part of hunting is the wall tent and wood stove, cutting wood and smoking out the tent when you put more wood in the stove. I've been loading wood in the stove for 40 years, all my hunting clothes smell like wood smoke, it's part of the tradition. I guess I can't fault folks who want convenience though.
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We used it mostly at night. When it is 10 degrees you dont have to worry about waking up to a cold tent if someone doesn't wake up to re-stoke the fire. With the pellets it stays going on its own. We use fire wood when were hanging around camp during the day. But is a lot easier to just use pellets. :twocents: No mess and just light them and let it go until the 40lbs is gone then refill. The set up in the pic we got for under 300.00 Its easy to turn off when you head out in the morning to hunt.
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We tried the pellet stove to save on room because in eastern Montana there isn't much to cut so we have to haul wood over there. 7 bags of pellets takes up a lot less room than 7 nights worth of wood. The whole dying of smoke inhalation and the tent burning down thing has made me switch back to old Betsy and wood though. :chuckle: by the way that is a mighty fine looking stove you got going there! I can't wait to here how it burns! :tup:
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Bought the pellet stove out of cyclinder stoves in Utah. At 10 degrees the boys were sleeping on top of there sleeping bags. A 40 pound bag per day is what I figured for camp and it seemed to work out. My wall tent is a 12 by 14 and they sleep on cots. the stove is the medium size. I figured that the day I don't spend cutting firewood for the stove can be used glassing area's and scouting. We still cut wood for a campfire but not as much. I will be going to a 16 by 20 tent here in a couple a years because of more grandson (Yea more packers) so will probally go to the larger stove. One thing that the maker was very clear on is that YOU DON'T USE CHEAP PELLETS. The other thing I do is have a pea level with the stove. I make sure that the fire box that delivers the pellet is at 2 percent fall towards the stove. In my brain it seems to help and I've had no problems. Good luck to your endeavor to build one. With the previous posting has any one hung a CO detector in there tent? Just curious
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Bought the pellet stove out of cyclinder stoves in Utah. At 10 degrees the boys were sleeping on top of there sleeping bags. A 40 pound bag per day is what I figured for camp and it seemed to work out. My wall tent is a 12 by 14 and they sleep on cots. the stove is the medium size. I figured that the day I don't spend cutting firewood for the stove can be used glassing area's and scouting. We still cut wood for a campfire but not as much. I will be going to a 16 by 20 tent here in a couple a years because of more grandson (Yea more packers) so will probally go to the larger stove. One thing that the maker was very clear on is that YOU DON'T USE CHEAP PELLETS. The other thing I do is have a pea level with the stove. I make sure that the fire box that delivers the pellet is at 2 percent fall towards the stove. In my brain it seems to help and I've had no problems. Good luck to your endeavor to build one. With the previous posting has any one hung a CO detector in there tent? Just curious
we have a fireman in camp and he puts on e in every time we go hunting. (CO detector)
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Have you put thought into a final price point your aiming for?
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Have you put thought into a final price point your aiming for?
I paid $900 for a Clarry pellet stove
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We use one and for one of our tents and love it during the off season my father-in-law sets it up in his shop to keep that warm. I have been looking for another one but they seem to be priced a little high for me right now I am definitely interested to see what you come up with as far as prices go and how long of a burn you get
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any update on the Stove build?
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Also had a bad experience with a pellet stove. I will never give another chance to a gravity fed pellet stove, to dangerous in my opinion.
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Had a serious n Idaho elk camp I socialize with use one this last season and it was a failure. It was the one the safe company sells at the Big Horn Show. It burned fine however it would not put out nearly enough heat. I have since heard the same feedback multiple times as I researched whether I wanted to go down this route with my wall tent. All feedback was the same from independent sources, not enough heat.
My input would be to consider how you can get the most heat radiating off it.
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Had a serious n Idaho elk camp I socialize with use one this last season and it was a failure. It was the one the safe company sells at the Big Horn Show. It burned fine however it would not put out nearly enough heat. I have since heard the same feedback multiple times as I researched whether I wanted to go down this route with my wall tent. All feedback was the same from independent sources, not enough heat.
My input would be to consider how you can get the most heat radiating off it.
The one we used (brand unknown) put out plenty of heat for my 14x17x5 walltent but it took a long time for the stove to get hot enough to radiate the heat. One nice thing about wood is once you get a fire going it is hot pretty fast. Safety issues is what turned me off to them. Wood for this guy!
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Wood stoves are fool proof, and the fuel is free. Besides, who does'nt like jumping on their saw and splitting rounds?
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We had one made for our late hunt and it was plenty warm enough. It could cook us out of our 12 x 20 tent sometimes. We did have one blow out which was not pleasant. I don't think it saves money, maybe time cutting firewood. We had to get more bags a few times. It took a while to figure out how to get a bag to last all night but we did. The stove is still to heavy so I don't know if you can put it on a lighter one.
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I have no experience in pellet stoves. Is 40 pounds normal for a night. Seems like an awful lot.
NO KIDDING!.. no thanks...my stove weighs 17 lbs..I buy North ID energy logs and burn them 2 a night is all it takes to keep my tent warm from 5pm till am..$3.20 a night
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We tried one a few years ago. Didn't put out enough heat, were back to wood.