Post by: GoldTip on August 03, 2007, 01:39:40 PM
By changing the nock point or position of your rest you have now just detuned your bow from where it should shoot the most efficiently. I have always just moved my sight pins or gang adjusted the sight so that my broadheads are hitting the bullseye as I would like. To heck with where the fieldtips hit at the point you have got the broadheads on. IMHO if the broadheads are grouping well, just not at the same spot as your field tips, then you have a well tuned bow, it's your broadheads and fieldtips that don't fly the same, and I don't see any way in which with moving your rest and nock that you could possibly be getting perfect flight from your arrows either field tipped or with broadheads. Thereby reducing kinetic energy and penetration.
Let me end this in saying that for years prior to shooting Sonics, I shot thunderheads which grouped 2" low and 2" left at 20 yards out of my very well tuned bow. With moving my sights, I still had perfect arrow flight, and managed to put more than probably 30 different animals on the ground, to include elk, deer and bears. Does this theory make sense to anyone but me?
Post by: Ironhead on August 03, 2007, 05:08:48 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on August 03, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on August 03, 2007, 07:25:15 PM
Yeah, that's why I don't shoot with Thunderheads anymore. Great head, but impact point is way off field points. You don't move your rest or nock point, just the macro-adjustments on your sight. Pain in the butt, so just use Slick Tricks and don't worry about it.
Basically the same here. I love Thunderheads but they hit about 8 inches lower then my field points. The Slick Tricks are only a couple inches lower then field points so it makes it easier to adjust. And yes, I know that most broad heads will hit the same as field points if everything is tuned.
Post by: boneaddict on August 04, 2007, 06:58:56 AM
Personally, I am switching to the Montec G5s because of their solid construction. I normally shoot the satellites out of my compound. The have the replaceable blade, but they are harder to come by, and I like the re-shap capabilities of the Montec. I hope they fly as well as anticipated. I'll stick witht he Magnus Stingers on my Trad bow. That head is terminal with even low kinetic energy, not that my 85 point trad bow has low kinetic energy, but you know what I mean.
Kind of hard on block targets though.
Post by: johnsc6 on August 04, 2007, 08:17:37 AM
Post by: Gamblin Guy on August 07, 2007, 10:27:03 AM
Post by: Little Fish on August 09, 2007, 10:11:02 AM
Post by: GoldTip on August 09, 2007, 10:31:51 AM
Post by: Little Fish on August 09, 2007, 02:48:40 PM
That is good to know. I will be seeing how the Sonics work at longer distances this weekend. I haven't taken an animal with a bow and arrow, but hope to do so this fall.
LF
Post by: GoldTip on August 09, 2007, 03:22:48 PM
Post by: rewent12003 on August 09, 2007, 08:00:16 PM
Post by: Ironhead on August 09, 2007, 08:59:55 PM
Post by: GoldTip on August 10, 2007, 07:48:08 AM
Post by: funkster on August 11, 2007, 08:34:27 AM
Yeah, that's why I don't shoot with Thunderheads anymore. Great head, but impact point is way off field points. You don't move your rest or nock point, just the macro-adjustments on your sight. Pain in the butt, so just use Slick Tricks and don't worry about it.
I have used slick tricks for the last two season and they shoot almost the same as a field tip. They look small but they sure leave a big hole. I changed to the slick trick "magnums" this year and I am having the same accuracy as the original broadheads. IMPO I believe they are one of the best broadheads on the market today!!
Post by: nw_bowhunter on August 13, 2007, 12:03:28 PM
Post by: johnsc6 on August 15, 2007, 08:16:24 AM
Post by: Dick Cress on August 20, 2007, 09:13:18 PM
I am looking forward to trying one an Elk this season.
Post by: LongTatLaw on September 27, 2007, 02:30:37 AM
Maybe its my setup ( I shoot a whisker biscuit) but I bought the 15$ cabelas center shot tool. Has rubber bands and posts that fit into your limb bolt holes. Once you have center dead one, you just put an arrow in the rest and eyeball the height with the rest bolt hole. Works perfect! I tune my bow weekly during heavy use times.
I guess Im weird, I have 3 razor sharp "hunting" arrows and 6 "practice" arrows. ALL have thunderhead 125's on them.
I dont use field points at all. All my shooting is done with the same BH's I hunt with so when Im dialed in...Its a perfect match. No mental math or kentucky windage needed!
But thats just me and I absolutely destroy targets.
however, I have muscle practice and precision practice. When I do precision practice its long distance shooting outside and maybe one long session a week or less often.
But, I have a block target in my house that Ill shoot 10-75 arrows a day during peak season. No real aim issues or adjustments at 8 - 10 yards. Its all muscle memory and strength practice. When my pins are on and my bow tuned I dont have to do that much precision shooting if my shoulder is strong (I pull 78 pounds but its a compound so not that bad).
Any way, Im no expert but Ive knocked down a whole lot of animals with the same routine.
ps- if my back yard was bigger than my bathroom... Id be shooting every arrow at 30-50 yards but no yard means hallway practice for me!
good luck
Post by: Dick Cress on October 01, 2007, 06:47:53 PM
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Post by: bullelk1 on November 03, 2007, 01:07:32 PM