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Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 12:52:48 PM

Title: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 12:52:48 PM: I am shooting with a Scott little bitty goose release. it is a single caliper style compact release. Yesterday at the 3d shoot I had 3-4 times where it did not release the string. Almost like there was a burr on the caliper side. Caused me to launch a couple arrows into lala land. Time to toss it? I did see some other issues of the same variety online.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 21, 2013, 01:35:42 PM: If your not confident in your equipment, replace for sure. Not sure I would toss it tho..:dunno: It should be warrantied through scott if its a faulty release. And repair or replacement shouldn't be an issue. If your still not confident in it, then purchase a different release and put this one as a backup.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 02:32:20 PM: Scott Archery just emailed me back and offered a replacement of my choice.

Any suggestions? Stand up company for sure.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: Holg3107 on January 21, 2013, 02:39:05 PM: I have a "little bitty goose" and have been happy with it with no issues. That being said if the company was offering me a free-bee I would go with the "wolverine". I have limited opinion on dual-caliper releases and personally would stick with single caliper. Good to know that SCOTT is upholding their customer service standards :tup:
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 21, 2013, 02:48:15 PM: I have also used the lil bitty goose, No problems here either. Its my backup now. I currently use the wildcat. And have no complaints. I prefer the wildcat because its a little larger. +1 on the customer service, good to hear. :tup:
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: MtnMuley on January 21, 2013, 02:58:14 PM: Quote from: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
Scott Archery just emailed me back and offered a replacement of my choice.

Any suggestions? Stand up company for sure.

I was going to say call Scott and they will treat you better than right. I use the new Wolf, and wouldn't switch to another. It's a break away and can be folded back under and held with a rubber band.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: owmygulay on January 21, 2013, 03:30:42 PM: Scott has awesome customer service. I would recommend getting a Rhino XT if you are able. They are awesome. Nice crisp trigger and the hook design gives a very clean release. It is nice to be able to easily hook on the loop string without looking while hunting.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: Jellymon on January 21, 2013, 04:12:28 PM: Not saying there isnt an issue, but I have seen with that style release people pulling the trigger with their finger on the jaw that opens, which wont allow it to open all the way, causing it to delay like that.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: mtbiker on January 21, 2013, 06:59:22 PM: Quote from: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
Scott Archery just emailed me back and offered a replacement of my choice.

Any suggestions? Stand up company for sure.

I've been shooting the Rhino XT, recently. I installed the medium spring and the swept back trigger that came with it as options. So far, really liking it. Also, I have a bitty goose and have never had any issues with it. It's now my backup release.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: earlmarne on January 21, 2013, 07:03:00 PM: i would recommend the rhino xt also .i love mine
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: JJD on January 23, 2013, 07:34:49 PM: Used a Scott little bity goose and went to a hook type Scott Silverhorn. I love the way you can connect to a loop easily, without looking at it.
bity is a caliper and is more difficult.
The reason I will stay with Scott is that my Silverhorn got slammed in a truck door and the release mechanism was broken.
Emailed Scott and asked if they would sell me just that part. They asked for my snail mail address so they could send me one, I replied, how much. They said, you owe us nothing and thanked me for being a customer.
They have my business for life as long as they continue to produce a good product, my guess is, that's highly likely.
Title: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2013, 07:49:55 PM: Thanks for bringing this back up. I emailed the guy back today and asked him to send me a Shark release. I didn't feel right asking for a release that cost 2x what I paid for the original. Based on this experience when I decide to upgrade I will definitely go with Scott again, and probably try that Wolf xt. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: JLS on January 23, 2013, 07:53:19 PM: Quote from: jackelope on January 21, 2013, 12:52:48 PM
I am shooting with a Scott little bitty goose release. it is a single caliper style compact release. Yesterday at the 3d shoot I had 3-4 times where it did not release the string. Almost like there was a burr on the caliper side. Caused me to launch a couple arrows into lala land. Time to toss it? I did see some other issues of the same variety online.

If you're launching arrows into la-la land, odds are pretty high you're punching the trigger :yike:
Title: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2013, 07:58:44 PM: It's possible, but the big problem was when I pulled the trigger the d loop wouldn't come out of the release. It caught me off guard and i missed the targets by 15-20 feet. I shot another release for the rest of the targets and was fine.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: JLS on January 23, 2013, 08:09:04 PM: Yes, I've had release issues too, and launched an arrow into my shed. It's an indication that you are punching the trigger because you are trying to time the shot, instead of letting a surprise release happen.

It caught you off guard because you thought you had it timed. It's a hard habit to break too.
Title: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2013, 08:17:44 PM: The release would literally not unhook from the loop. I've shot several hundred arrows exactly the same way and not had a problem with this release and the Scott guy told me it was an issue with that release. I'm not trying to give you a hard time..,,please don't take it that way. I say that because if I really have a form issue I want to get to the bottom of it. There's several instances of this issue to be found online also. I shoot another release equally as much without any issue too. Dunno. Maybe I need to have someone watch me shoot who knows what they're doing. I am completely self taught so anything is possible.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: JLS on January 23, 2013, 08:21:53 PM: No worries here. So was the delayed release what caused the fliers? Maybe I misunderstood why you were launching arrows off.

This is a hard habit to diagnose, but a release that sticks is a very good indicator. Kind of like firing your shotgun on an empty chamber and watching the muzzle drop a foot :chuckle:

You can shoot good groups when you punch the trigger, but it can eventually morph into pure target panic. Shoot some arrows with your eyes closed, about three feet and see if the release surprises you.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2013, 09:02:38 PM: Yes, delayed release=flyers. Pull the trigger, arrow goes nowhere...what the heck?! Slightest movement launches arrow. All that happens a fraction of a second.

I was able to reproduce the hangup just by hooking the release up and pull the string back just enough to put a little tension on it, pull trigger, hang fire.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: mountainman on January 23, 2013, 10:08:21 PM: Did you try not grippnig the shank of the release?? On single calipers it is possible to be putting outside pressure on the static jaw of release and torquing it enough so the loop cant slide free of the release. I have been using a Scott Sabertooth with dual caliper. Love the forward trigger to maximize velocity and draw length and its narrow jaw head. Plus the polished stainless jaws are less prone to damage due to say, hitting it on a something hard. Will not flack anodizing or nick near as easily. :twocents:
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: coachcw on January 28, 2013, 06:52:36 AM: Jackolope I had the same problem and mine went back for good !
Title: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: jackelope on January 28, 2013, 07:38:01 AM: Quote from: mountainman on January 23, 2013, 10:08:21 PM
Did you try not grippnig the shank of the release?? On single calipers it is possible to be putting outside pressure on the static jaw of release and torquing it enough so the loop cant slide free of the release. I have been using a Scott Sabertooth with dual caliper. Love the forward trigger to maximize velocity and draw length and its narrow jaw head. Plus the polished stainless jaws are less prone to damage due to say, hitting it on a something hard. Will not flack anodizing or nick near as easily. :twocents:
It's a tiny little release. I don't hold the shank of the release.
The release was screwed up. It's gone back to scott and a new dual caliper is on its way.
Title: Re: Scott single caliper issue
Post by: MtnMuley on January 28, 2013, 08:02:36 AM: I think you'll be much happier with that dual caliper. I ran a shark for years, and it's still a very trusty back up.