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Title: 325 caliber
Post by: splitshot on January 25, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
  i just saw several comment on the 325 mag.  i am not familiar with it.  does it come in a regular mag, or a short mag or an rum?  the elk committee is looking for another gun for next years gun board. 
is it a common caliber and what guns use it , like win, rem, ruger, etc?   thanks,  mike w
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: duckmen1 on January 25, 2013, 07:16:42 PM
Short mag
Browning x bolt
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 25, 2013, 07:33:10 PM
Not one I would necessary look to buy but i would shoot one if I won it on a gun board.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: yorketransport on January 25, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
It's a 300 WSM necked up to 8mm. It's a pretty neat caliber and hard to beat our of a short action rifle.

Andrew
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2013, 07:39:24 PM
It's just basically the same as a 300 WSM, just bigger diameter bullet.

I really don't think it'll do anything the 300 WSM won't do, but it's cool if you just like to be different.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2013, 07:47:42 PM
It does quite a bit more, especially when it comes to say grizzly and moose. On par with the .338 Win Mag, in a light, short action gun.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: splitshot on January 25, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
does it only come in wsm ?  what is an x-bolt.?  sorry but i asked one qn. and now i got 2 more.  thanks,  mike w
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
That is the cartridge, the 325 wasm. Can be had in several rifles, most common theKimber Montana lightweight, or the Browning abol. The Browning Titanium would be a great choice in that caliber.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2013, 08:06:50 PM
Who needs a heavier bullet than say a 165 grain Barnes tsx or a 180 grain Nosler Accubond out of a 300 WSM? So you can shoot a bullet 20 grains heavier out of the 325, ok, but no animal is going to know the difference. Either one is going to kill just as dead.

Also, if you're not a reloader, the ammo choices are far better with the 300 WSM.

Like I said, only get the 325 if you want to be different. For practical purposes, you're better off with the 300.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: kentrek on January 25, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Who needs a heavier bullet than say a 165 grain Barnes tsx or a 180 grain Nosler Accubond out of a 300 WSM? So you can shoot a bullet 20 grains heavier out of the 325, ok, but no animal is going to know the difference. Either one is going to kill just as dead.

Also, if you're not a reloader, the ammo choices are far better with the 300 WSM.

Like I said, only get the 325 if you want to be different. For practical purposes, you're better off with the 300.

its all up to the shooter and the task at hand for the bullet,fig out the max range you wana shoot then load up with the heaviest bullet you can until the velocity of the lighter bullets catch up in foot pounds  :twocents:

it might take 50 dead moose or grizz for a person to see the differences between the two but some want all the advantage they can get in there oil hunt
Title: 325 caliber
Post by: sirmissalot on January 25, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
The 325 is a sweet round. I'd prefer it over a 300wsm. Not a ton of bullet choices... Even with reloading. But all I would need is a 200 grain x bullet, which last time I checked is available.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2013, 08:23:17 PM
If I wanted more power than what a 300 WSM provides, I would go to something with more case capactiy, and more velocity, like a 338 Win Mag.

I only say this because the original post was asking about a rifle for the "elk committe." And that would be my recommendation for the perfect elk cartridge- the 338 Win Mag.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Bob33 on January 25, 2013, 08:40:21 PM
Most 30 calibers (308, 30-06, 300 WSM, etc) use bullets that are .308 inches in diameter. The 325 WSM uses bullets that are .015 inches wider (.323"). There are fewer factory rounds with the 325 WSM than the popular 30 calibers, and far fewer bullet choices if you reload. The larger bullet may give you a slight advantage, but arguably not too much since it is less than 1/50th of an inch fatter than a 30 caliber.  If you like it and shoot it well, it will work fine for you.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Curly on January 25, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
I'm with Bobcat.  Why not get a .338 Win mag?  It seems that the .338 wasn't even a contender for the banquet this year and maybe not even next year...........  I would consider a 338 WM to be one of (if not the) top elk cartridges. 
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: RadSav on January 25, 2013, 08:47:37 PM
My .325 WSM is the most accurate hunting gun in my safe.  I really like it!  Had an 8mm Rem Mag but didn't like the 26" barrel required and the 13# carry weight.  In a Browning with 23" barrel it's quite the handy brush buster.  Mine is a Kimber Montana I picked up from a member on here.  24" barrel, but light enough to be a back country gun.  My next big hunt is going to be a goat/grizzly hunt in the Yukon.  No doubt it will be the gun I strap to the pack on that one.  Most .338's are built too much like a tank for that.  .325 is a good compromise in my mind.

Ever hold the RMEF X-Bolt White Gold .325 WSM?  What a well balanced and beautiful gun there!  Almost hate to get it bloody - Almost.  I might need to put one of those in the safe before too long.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Bob33 on January 25, 2013, 08:48:15 PM
It might have more "appeal" than a 338 because it is new and rarer. :twocents:
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Curly on January 25, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Wonder why they went with the 8mm bullet instead of doing a .338 WSM?  Seems like it would have been a better cartridge with all the .338 bullets available out there. ???
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
I think with the case capacity, even the 325 is stretching its potential. I read somewhere that the 300 WSM case was designed to be most efficient with the 30 caliber.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Curly on January 25, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
Found some interesting reading here
 (http://www.chuckhawks.com/short_magnums.htm).
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The most recent short magnum cartridges, as of this writing, are the .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnums (RCM). These .308 length offerings, developed by Hornady for Ruger, are based on shortened .375 Ruger case. This is a beltless bottleneck case with a rim and head diameter of .532". The RCM's were introduced in 2008.

Hornady offers .300 RCM factory loads with 150, 165 and 180 grain bullets; 200 and 225 grain bullets are offered in the .338 RCM. The performance of the .300 RCM is comparable to that of the other .300 short magnums, while the .338 RCM--a true medium bore cartridge--is comparable to the .350 Rem. Mag. and superior to the .325 WSM.

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In the same class as the .300 short magnums is the .325 WSM. This cartridge came about as the result of a failed attempt to create a .338 WSM. The .325 WSM is intentionally misnamed to make it sound bigger than it is. It actually has a .315" bore diameter and should have been named the .315 WSM. It is an 8mm cartridge and its performance is nearly identical to that of the .300 WSM. The most important difference between this cartridge and the .300 WSM is the relative scarcity of 8mm bullets for reloading. Another drawback is its vicious recoil in the light Browning and Winchester rifles supplied in .325 WSM, recoil comparable to the .338 RCM and in excess of the .350 Rem. Mag.

The .338 RCM is offered factory loaded with 200 and 225 grain bullets, which is fine as far as it goes. It is an excellent elk cartridge. Unfortunately, the long 250 grain bullets that made the .338 Win. Magnum's reputation as a slayer of giant animals takes up too much powder space in the short RCM case to be practical. That leaves the .338 RCM a definite step ahead of the .325 WSM, but clearly infrerior to the .338 Win. Mag.

So, if you want a new and rarer cartridge, consider the .338 RCM. :twocents:
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Kazekurt on January 25, 2013, 09:02:32 PM
I love my Kimber 325!  I Used to own a Browning 300 WSM, but sold it shortly after acquiring my 325.  Both great guns, I just like the 325 a little better.  I Find my Kimber and Nosler trophy grade anmo in 200 Accubond  to be a deadly combination As it has produced tight groups on the range, and also quickly dispatched two caribou and two mule deer for me last year
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: coachcw on January 25, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
best elk / grizz/ moose . .338 ultra mag with a break shooting 250 accubonds !
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Wacenturion on January 25, 2013, 09:33:20 PM
It does quite a bit more, especially when it comes to say grizzly and moose. On par with the .338 Win Mag, in a light, short action gun.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Wacenturion on January 25, 2013, 09:39:09 PM
If I wanted more power than what a 300 WSM provides, I would go to something with more case capactiy, and more velocity, like a 338 Win Mag.

I only say this because the original post was asking about a rifle for the "elk committe." And that would be my recommendation for the perfect elk cartridge- the 338 Win Mag.

I remember reading the early reviews of the 325 WSM from a collective group of sportswriters....Wayne Van Zwoll and others who were on a elk hunt together.  All elk were killed with one shot at varying distances.  Everyone was impressed and agreed that it was one fine elk cartridge.   
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: Wacenturion on January 25, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
Wonder why they went with the 8mm bullet instead of doing a .338 WSM?  Seems like it would have been a better cartridge with all the .338 bullets available out there. ???

Winchester tried....could not make it work.
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: RadSav on January 25, 2013, 09:53:39 PM
best elk / grizz/ moose . .338 ultra mag with a break shooting 250 accubonds !

Only draw back is if you are not a Marine or a pack mule you won't want it strapped to your back for a week in the high country.  I'd rather pack the two gallons of water that weighs about the same.  But hey, that's just me and my broken back talking ;)
Title: Re: 325 caliber
Post by: splitshot on January 25, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
i think i will go for the 338 as first choice and a 325 for second.  just found a donor who wants to sponser a rifle and he will do the 325.  i am getting stoked cuz i luv rifles and i luv game boards with rifles on them.  lets go get your money out.  mike w
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