Post by: bwhntr350 on January 26, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Might as well show it, I guess, but most will not care about it unless you are into Pre-64 Winchester's.
Cruddy photo's. Have had them a while and I am not good at taking pictures of guns, obviously.
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Post by: bow-n-head on January 26, 2013, 09:05:31 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on January 26, 2013, 09:17:45 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 26, 2013, 09:19:23 AM
Post by: Huntbear on January 26, 2013, 09:21:04 AM
Not many rifles compare to a Pre 64 Model 70.
Post by: bwhntr350 on January 26, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
There are wear marks on the bolt just because the gun gets cleaned every 6 months. There is a primer mark on the face of the bolt. I understand that the pre-64's were shot one time before leaving the factory but I do not know if one shot, 50 years ago, would be enough to leave that sort of mark. It could be that the first owner shot it but have no idea. My Grandfather was under the impression it had not been fired since leaving the factory but even he may have been speculating or misled.
He passed in 2003 and left me his collection of model 70's. This one here in nearly "like new" condition is definitely the cream of the crop, as it should be.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 26, 2013, 10:34:58 AM
Post by: huntnphool on January 26, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Post by: JLS on January 26, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
Post by: bwhntr350 on January 26, 2013, 03:46:37 PM
Wow, what a neat gun. Too bad you don't have the box for it. I'd be really tempted to load it up and hunt elk with it. :o
Haha, I am not even tempted to shoot it.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 26, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
Post by: Arnbo on January 26, 2013, 04:13:10 PM
Post by: marlin on January 26, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
A friend of mine's grandfather passed and left him a Pre-64 Model 70 in .264 Win Mag.. its a beauty too, and I actually got to shoot it with him. I offered him $1200 and he refused. Winchester is making some new model 70's as a tribute to the pre-64, and Cabela's has a .264 win mag.. Its nice, but now I'm broke.. Maybe someday.
Post by: jyerxa on January 26, 2013, 05:01:19 PM
Post by: kentrek on January 26, 2013, 05:02:14 PM
Priceless! Do you have pics from his Safaris?
:yeah:
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 26, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
That's a beauty!! .458 win mag.. WOW.
A friend of mine's grandfather passed and left him a Pre-64 Model 70 in .264 Win Mag.. its a beauty too, and I actually got to shoot it with him. I offered him $1200 and he refused. Winchester is making some new model 70's as a tribute to the pre-64, and Cabela's has a .264 win mag.. Its nice, but now I'm broke.. Maybe someday.
Been drooling over that one myself. If much rather find a pre 64 though.
Post by: bwhntr350 on January 26, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
Priceless! Do you have pics from his Safaris?
You know, I do not. Before he died, he gave me a bunch of old photo's of him back when he logged. Back in the late '30's and '40's.
Grandma, who is now 95, has their hunting photo album from Africa. She keeps it in their game room. You can see the pictures and then find the animal on the wall. I have never really thought any too much about this stuff until you guys brought it to my attention. I really should make it a point, asap, to get up to Gram's and get that album and start making some copies.
I know the other model 70's that were left to me were taken to Africa. I have not shot any of them. For some reason, they seem sacred to me, but I do not know why. I have ammo for all of them.
As far as the .458 goes, I could not shoot that one. One of the guns he left me is a Model 70 pre-64 .375 H&H and it has a crack in the wrist. If I fired the .458 and something gave way like that it would really bum me out.
Post by: jyerxa on January 26, 2013, 07:47:17 PM
Priceless! Do you have pics from his Safaris?I know the other model 70's that were left to me were taken to Africa. I have not shot any of them. For some reason, they seem sacred to me, but I do not know why. I have ammo for all of them.
I don't shoot dads either. I'll let my brother take it hunting. I feel I am more or less the guardian of it. It is just what you do with heirlooms. ;)
Post by: bwhntr350 on January 27, 2013, 05:55:53 AM
I offered to buy that pistol, a 1871 Colt SA, I believe it is, from my brother but he turned me down :bash:
There was an article in a northwest magazine back in the early '80's that ran a short story on Tracy and then a full page article, with his picture, of my Grandfather. Some guy in Colorado seen the story and he happened to own the rifle. He called and offered to buy my Grandpa's pistol so that he had the complete set that Tracy carried. My Grandpa turned him down but offered to buy the rifle. Of course, the guy said "No."
For anyone who has not heard of Harry Tracy, pretty entertaining reads on him. I remember finding, online, stories on him in the Seattle Times, I think, keeping up, daily, on Tracy's doings. I will try to find them and add a link for those interested.
Here is a pretty good account:
http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/htracy.htm (http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/htracy.htm)
Harry Tracy. Does he look cold blooded?
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Post by: bwhntr350 on January 27, 2013, 06:04:01 AM
http://www.wrvmuseum.org/journal/journal_0498.htm (http://www.wrvmuseum.org/journal/journal_0498.htm)
It claims that there was another pistol that somebody donated to a museum and that it was Tracy's. The men mentioned here are my two Grandfathers.
William Massey was from upstate N.Y. He was my Dad's step dad until he passed away in the 90's. He had sold that gun, with authentication that this was indeed Tracy's pistol, to my Mother's Dad, Del Huggins. That is who left the guns to my brother and I.
My brother has the written documentation for this pistol. Weird. If the first part of this story is true, and my Grandfather did not own Tracy's pistol, then that makes a liar out of me. Intriguing plot!
Post by: jyerxa on January 27, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
Post by: coachcw on January 27, 2013, 07:25:21 PM
Post by: JLS on January 27, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
My Grandfather also had a pistol carried by Harry Tracy. It was left to my brother, along with some other pistols. Tracy was not really known for his pistol work, but instead his 30-30 was his go to gun. I, suppose, it is very possible that he killed with his pistol, but not like he did with the 30-30.
I offered to buy that pistol, a 1871 Colt SA, I believe it is, from my brother but he turned me down :bash:
There was an article in a northwest magazine back in the early '80's that ran a short story on Tracy and then a full page article, with his picture, of my Grandfather. Some guy in Colorado seen the story and he happened to own the rifle. He called and offered to buy my Grandpa's pistol so that he had the complete set that Tracy carried. My Grandpa turned him down but offered to buy the rifle. Of course, the guy said "No."
For anyone who has not heard of Harry Tracy, pretty entertaining reads on him. I remember finding, online, stories on him in the Seattle Times, I think, keeping up, daily, on Tracy's doings. I will try to find them and add a link for those interested.
Here is a pretty good account:
http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/htracy.htm (http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/htracy.htm)
Harry Tracy. Does he look cold blooded?
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I read a book that had a chapter on the Tracy brothers. They were some stone cold killers.
Post by: runningboard on January 27, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
guy @ the Spokane gun show has a 264 pre 64, last 2 shows IIRC he was asking$1300That's a beauty!! .458 win mag.. WOW.
A friend of mine's grandfather passed and left him a Pre-64 Model 70 in .264 Win Mag.. its a beauty too, and I actually got to shoot it with him. I offered him $1200 and he refused. Winchester is making some new model 70's as a tribute to the pre-64, and Cabela's has a .264 win mag.. Its nice, but now I'm broke.. Maybe someday.
Been drooling over that one myself. If much rather find a pre 64 though.