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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: monster on January 28, 2013, 08:46:23 PM

Title: best caliber for dogs
Post by: monster on January 28, 2013, 08:46:23 PM: give me your advice I have 223 and its putting BIG holes in my pelts what do u think about a 10/22 Too small or ???
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 28, 2013, 09:00:31 PM: Change the bullet.
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Post by: monster on January 28, 2013, 09:04:04 PM: thanks for the comments every shot is under 100 yards most at 50
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Post by: Bofire on January 29, 2013, 07:20:27 AM: 10-22 too small!!!
I switched from the Vmax to Hornady softpoints get smaller holes, kill well. I lean toward heavier bullets as I get two holes but they are small.
Carl
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Post by: varminthunter09 on January 30, 2013, 12:22:37 AM: I shoot 55 grain fmj out of a S&W MP15 with pretty good sucsess. Minimal pelt damage.
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Post by: fast1 on January 30, 2013, 08:56:54 AM: Nosler varmanotor is doin good for me with,sometimes with no exit hole.
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Post by: AWS on January 30, 2013, 01:31:45 PM: Try the Nosler 40gr NBT, I shoot them in everything from my 222R, 223, 22-204, and 5.6x50R Mag works great for me. No exits unless I get close to the edges and no splash wounds even up close and I run them up to 3950fps.
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Post by: KFhunter on January 30, 2013, 01:43:58 PM: use a shotgun, this is from Rick at ;
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Title: Re: best caliber for dogs
Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2013, 01:54:19 PM: 10 22 too small how about 22 long rifle revolver.
I agree bigger is better but it will work.
Title: Re: best caliber for dogs
Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2013, 01:57:20 PM: Yes I know it's not very big but once less rabbit killer and fawn muncher.
My preferred gun is 270 with 90 gr hollow point.
Oh ya
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Post by: KFhunter on January 30, 2013, 01:57:33 PM: ya .22 revolver will work for shooting pups out of the den :chuckle:

edit:
Ah you beat my satire by 13 seconds ..
I'll hafta be a bit quicker with my zingers :chuckle:
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Post by: duckmen1 on January 30, 2013, 02:01:45 PM: That's funny.
I didn't know how big it was when I shot it all I could see was upper chest and head over ferns so I took the shot and it dropped like a ton of bricks. Shot through the chest and penetrated all the way into the hips and lost were it went from there.
I can tell I had one serious farmers tan in at pic though.
It is small but I'm also a big boy. :chuckle:
When your 6' 2" everything looks small.
I make four pound bass look like a pound.
I also think the 22-250 is pretty dang sweet
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Post by: MadHatter on January 31, 2013, 08:59:14 PM: I like .25-06, but then again if blowing them in half is not what you are after you might look at .22WSM or .17HMR... Others are right about .223 though. Might be worth changing your bullet. I was using .55gr A-Max in my 22-250 and it did OK, but there are better bullets out there. Also, I know it sounds kinda opposite of what you are looking for, but I have found that my .308 with 180gr BTSP rounds can be pelt friendly. Coyotes tend to be too narrow to fully expand the bullet, but will still dump enough energy to put a dog down fast, unless you shoot the chest with them head on, then it will pretty much destroy the dog... But the last 2 dogs I hit with my .308 just left two roughly .30cal holes, but still dumped the dog.
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Post by: duckmen1 on January 31, 2013, 09:16:38 PM: I shot a coyote in the chest with a 270 140 gr accubond and it did no external damage whatsoever ever. Small hole in and no exit. Dropped in his tracks and messed his insides up pretty good but no visual damage outside. Although it was at 243 yards. Here he is. Took couple seasons back. Haven't targeted to much lately. Need to get back out. I like the 270 for yotes. Plus in the winter it's good for cougars to. Flat shooting and lots of power and no severe hide damage with anything shot with this gun.
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Post by: bobcat on January 31, 2013, 09:20:48 PM: Quote from: duckmen1 on January 31, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
I shot a coyote in the chest with a 270 140 gr accubond and it did no external damage whatsoever ever. Small hole in and no exit. Dropped in his tracks and messed his insides up pretty good but no visual damage outside. Although it was at 243 yards. Here he is. Took couple seasons back. Haven't targeted to much lately. Need to get back out.

Wow, that's really surprising that it didn't exit. And here I was thinking about using that same bullet for elk. I guess I'll stick with Barnes.
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Post by: duckmen1 on January 31, 2013, 09:33:35 PM: Ya it was kind of weird but sometimes bullets do weird things. I didn't notice it fragmenting inside but did not recover the bullet either. It was somewhere in the back rump somewhere and didn't try to find it. Was more worried about skinning it and getting it cooled down. I used the same bullet on a bobcat several seasons back to and it blew through the cat broadside and left the same diameter hole on the exit as it did the entrance. Plus a small little hole from a rib fracture poking through. Flipped it on it back. Cool to see the vapor trail from a long shot go into a animal like that. Can't believe I smoked it at 458 yards. My longest shot at an animal by far.right behind the shoulder.
I guess you can tell I like hunting with a 270.
Lately I switched to the 140 Berger vld bullets for deer but want to try them on a yotie to see the reaction of them on small game.
But I always will go back to the Sierra 90 gr hollow points. Awesome load for varmints.
Title: Re: best caliber for dogs
Post by: deerslyr on January 31, 2013, 09:41:38 PM: Quote from: bobcat on January 31, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: duckmen1 on January 31, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
I shot a coyote in the chest with a 270 140 gr accubond and it did no external damage whatsoever ever. Small hole in and no exit. Dropped in his tracks and messed his insides up pretty good but no visual damage outside. Although it was at 243 yards. Here he is. Took couple seasons back. Haven't targeted to much lately. Need to get back out.

Wow, that's really surprising that it didn't exit. And here I was thinking about using that same bullet for elk. I guess I'll stick with Barnes.

I and a few of my friends have gotten pass throughs on shoulder shots at 300 yards on muleys :dunno: havent seen a deer not drop from that bullet actually, but we typically go for shoulder shots.
Title: Re: best caliber for dogs
Post by: duckmen1 on January 31, 2013, 09:46:39 PM: The one deer I shot with the 140 gr accubond put it straight down with a pass through. Was a spike blacktail at forty yards. My first buck seasons ago. Love accubonds might go back and try reloading them. Only ever factory shot them.
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Post by: nateshooter89 on February 03, 2013, 11:18:31 PM: when they say the season is year round does that mean til march 31 when my big game licence expires?
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Post by: bobcat on February 03, 2013, 11:23:34 PM: Quote from: nateshooter89 on February 03, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
when they say the season is year round does that mean til march 31 when my big game licence expires?

It means there is no closed season for coyotes. But a valid hunting license is required.