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Title: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 31, 2013, 01:15:28 PM
Idiots......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y2sWiZ8BizI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y2sWiZ8BizI)
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 31, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Some of the best stuff that could happen to protect our rights. The hysteria these idiots are acting on is showing everyone how crazy they are.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 31, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
The agent involved claimed the toys could be converted to the real thing. How does one become an ATF Agent and have such a total lack of understanding of guns?
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 31, 2013, 01:36:33 PM
He got in because he knew Barack.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: scotty1969 on January 31, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
is it time yet?
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: deerhuntr4885 on February 01, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
That is an old story. I hope that agent works at Wal Mart now though.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: NW-GSP on February 01, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
I happen to have a little inside info on this exact situation.
The lower of the air soft gun mated up with no problem to a ar-15 upper.

The only part of a ar that is registered is the lower.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 01, 2013, 09:05:27 PM
I was just going to ask that question, but NW_GSP beat me to it with the answer.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Smossy on February 01, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
Airsoft gun converted to real gun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33TX-vthUI#ws)
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 01, 2013, 09:55:07 PM
That is a faked-up video.  He swaps out two different lowers off camera.  The airsoft one had a green handle, the finished one has a black handle, and if you look closely, the side of the receiver below the ejection port has some lettering stamped into it on the green handled one and it is not there on the black handled one.  Also he doesn't put the bolt or mag releases back in that he removes, yet the finished gun has them in place and they work. 
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Atroxus on February 01, 2013, 10:00:38 PM
Idiots......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y2sWiZ8BizI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y2sWiZ8BizI)

That video was uploaded back in 2010.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 01, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
If you read the description of your video Smossy, you'll see the video was a joke. You cannot convert an airsoft into a working "military grade machine gun".
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Smossy on February 01, 2013, 10:42:32 PM
That is a faked-up video.  He swaps out two different lowers off camera.  The airsoft one had a green handle, the finished one has a black handle, and if you look closely, the side of the receiver below the ejection port has some lettering stamped into it on the green handled one and it is not there on the black handled one.  Also he doesn't put the bolt or mag releases back in that he removes, yet the finished gun has them in place and they work. 
Good eye, If im not mistaken its even a smith n Weston
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Smossy on February 01, 2013, 10:43:25 PM
If you read the description of your video Smossy, you'll see the video was a joke. You cannot convert an airsoft into a working "military grade machine gun".
I know Ill admit I didnt watch the whole thing it pissed me off like a minute into it.
My fault for sharing false information, thats what you guys are for!
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Smossy on February 01, 2013, 10:44:25 PM
I need to pay attention more to the small details. Im quick to be like  :yike: :yike:
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on February 02, 2013, 12:09:10 AM
I happen to have a little inside info on this exact situation.
The lower of the air soft gun mated up with no problem to a ar-15 upper.

The only part of a ar that is registered is the lower.

Really now?
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: brokenvet on February 02, 2013, 03:34:03 AM
That is a faked-up video.  He swaps out two different lowers off camera.  The airsoft one had a green handle, the finished one has a black handle, and if you look closely, the side of the receiver below the ejection port has some lettering stamped into it on the green handled one and it is not there on the black handled one.  Also he doesn't put the bolt or mag releases back in that he removes, yet the finished gun has them in place and they work.

NOT just two different lowers, two different uppers to.  He started out with an upper that had the word kill on it, then it magically goes away. 
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 02, 2013, 12:40:59 PM
True, I just didn't want to type any more...   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: NW-GSP on February 02, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
I happen to have a little inside info on this exact situation.
The lower of the air soft gun mated up with no problem to a ar-15 upper.

The only part of a ar that is registered is the lower.

Really now?

Think about this, someone buys one of those toy guns takes the upper off of it and can buy a real ar-15 upper and will have not had to register any part of the gun. That is why the ATF got involved.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on February 02, 2013, 01:36:00 PM
It is probably very likely that a real upper will attach to one, but I think the big question is, can the "toy's" lower have a lower kit installed to fire live ammo, or is it machined/cast in such a way that it will not accept one? 
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: csaaphill on February 02, 2013, 09:34:10 PM
still idiots atf should be dismantled.
Title: Re: Toy guns seized in Tacoma
Post by: Tman on February 02, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
ide have to see it to believe it, doesnt seem like you could convert something so easily without it exploding in your face.
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