Post by: coachcw on February 01, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 08:11:40 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 01, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 01, 2013, 08:16:37 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
Browning Mt Ti 5 lbs 8 oz. 270wsm
One that slipped my mind, along with the micro hunters
M70 featherweights are slick guns. Will probably be my next rifle purchase.
Post by: blacktailcody on February 01, 2013, 08:37:15 PM
Just kidding Tikka Tikka Tikka Tikka Tikka!!!!!!!!!
Post by: smdave on February 01, 2013, 08:49:50 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Kimber 84M Classic .338 Federal. 5lbs 10oz.
A dream gun and caliber of mine, if only I had the cash and they had an accuracy guarantee
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 01, 2013, 08:56:48 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi695.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv313%2F257WbyMag%2F102_0995X.jpg&hash=82a5208c4aca09d00a2f1dd9f9d2f69ac1b015eb)
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Post by: smdave on February 01, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
Kimber 84M Classic .338 Federal. 5lbs 10oz.
A dream gun and caliber of mine, if only I had the cash and they had an accuracy guarantee
I shot that deer at 275yards ranged with Nikon 440, with shooting sticks 210gr Federal Nosler. 1st deer with the gun I am very happy with how it shoots.
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
Kimber 84M Classic .338 Federal. 5lbs 10oz.
A dream gun and caliber of mine, if only I had the cash and they had an accuracy guarantee
I shot that deer at 275yards ranged with Nikon 440, with shooting sticks 210gr Federal Nolser. 1st deer with the gun I am very happy with how it shoots.
I dont doubt that for a second dave. Just seems kimbers are hit or miss with accuracy, heard there new models are much more consistent though. Im still trying to talk my parents into one of those for a college grad present :chuckle: Seems that caliber is about as all around as it gets too.
Post by: Jolten on February 01, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on February 01, 2013, 09:11:20 PM
Post by: Weehunt66 on February 01, 2013, 09:13:46 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
Post by: BLR 243 on February 01, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
Post by: smdave on February 01, 2013, 09:20:23 PM
How much does a bare short action t3 lite weigh?
Just over 6lbs
http://www.tikka.fi/pdf/specs/LiteStainless.pdf (http://www.tikka.fi/pdf/specs/LiteStainless.pdf)
Post by: blacktailcody on February 01, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
And where do you git them Boolits. Are they a Lewis co. only purchase ? :chuckle:
Lol do they go boong.
Post by: Smossy on February 01, 2013, 09:23:30 PM
Though way more than $1300, I got about that tied up in this Mark V ULWT 240 Roy, shootin a 85 grain boolit its pretty tough to beat for bucks. Its got talleys and a 3X9 ziess on it. 5 1/2 lbs bare gun, nice to pack!Thats a beautiful picture, Looks like the bobby is taking a nap next to his weapon before he goes on the prowl for hunters!
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi695.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv313%2F257WbyMag%2F102_0995X.jpg&hash=82a5208c4aca09d00a2f1dd9f9d2f69ac1b015eb)
Post by: Bigtine96 on February 01, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
How much does a bare short action t3 lite weigh?
Just over 6 lbs mines about 7 with scope and sling, best gun I have ever owned.
Post by: GoPlayOutside on February 01, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Post by: spur_ride on February 01, 2013, 10:20:17 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on February 01, 2013, 10:22:46 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
Those Kimbers seem iffy. Some shoot well and others don't. I'd hate to drop all that money and get one that won't shoot MOA. Beautiful rifles though.
That is the way I feel as well. Just about as sexy as a rifle comes too and the only production rifle that I like that comes in 338 fed. Too bad they dont have a MOA guarantee.
Post by: ellensburgpo on February 01, 2013, 10:30:30 PM
http://blog.kuiu.com/2013/01/28/boswell-custom-rifle-kuiu-slr-edition/ (http://blog.kuiu.com/2013/01/28/boswell-custom-rifle-kuiu-slr-edition/)
Post by: CementFinisher on February 01, 2013, 10:36:33 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 01, 2013, 10:41:42 PM
I am a big tikka buff and if you have the scratch save up and by a finnlight sako. Outstanding gun and always great shooters. I also run a a7 and it's a tack driver.
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2013, 10:46:52 PM
The kimbers quality control what model? is this internet hear say or have you seen it. ive shot four different and have freinds with them. all great. also have two friends with a browning mountain ti's. truely great gunsYou'll see people talking about it on the bigger gun forums a lot. Some shoot good groups and some don't. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if they guaranteed MOA. I think anytime you have a pencil thick barrel you run that risk. I know one of our members on here had a Browning mountain ti that wouldn't shoot too. I think those kimber mountain ascent rifles in optifade camo are cool as heck but not if they don't shoot.
Post by: jackelope on February 01, 2013, 10:47:58 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 01, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
I don't like the look of the Tikka but its hard to argue the fact that they all seem to shoot lights out.
I agree. I was in scheels today and couldnt get over the look and feel of them, hard to argue there accuracy though.
Post by: madmack76 on February 01, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 01, 2013, 11:01:14 PM
I don't like the look of the Tikka but its hard to argue the fact that they all seem to shoot lights out.
Indeed or the very reasonable price you get the accuracy for.
Post by: hillbilli on February 02, 2013, 03:19:51 AM
Post by: kentrek on February 02, 2013, 03:31:54 AM
I don't like the look of the Tikka but its hard to argue the fact that they all seem to shoot lights out.
Indeed or the very reasonable price you get the accuracy for.
gona take alot of money to beat a tikka..
id say tikka, kimber, and then something custom
Post by: coachcw on February 02, 2013, 07:20:00 AM
Post by: Skillet on February 02, 2013, 07:31:48 AM
Tika T3 Lite----270wsm w/ Redfield 4-12
+1 for the Tikka Lite Stainless in a short action caliber
I have the same gun in stainless with a Leupold VariX III 3.5x10. Awesome mountain gun. If you're really hunting the high country hard, you're going to bang up your stock/barrel a little. I just couldn't bring myself to beat up the wood on my M70 featherweight, so I got this Tikka for the high rocky stuff. I don't care how scratched up the tupperware stock gets, as long as it shoots. I went places with this gun on the High Hunt last Sept that I would never have taken by M70 FWT, and saved a lot of weight to boot.
Post by: opdinkslayer on February 02, 2013, 08:59:09 AM
Post by: Skillet on February 02, 2013, 09:10:57 AM
:twocents:
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 02, 2013, 09:15:03 AM
For the life of me I can't understand the love affair with the plas-tikka rifles. I don't care how good they shoot they just feel like a cheap pos when I hold one. Having said that I have to agree with an earlier poster to save your pennies and buy a Sako 85 finnlight in 300wsm and never look back. Once you have held one you will never ask to look at the Plas-tikka again. The Savage 111 lightweight in 6.5x284 would be my second choice if you want a more traditional looking rifle. :twocents:+1
Post by: dscubame on February 02, 2013, 09:20:05 AM
Post by: romaknows on February 02, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on February 02, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
Post by: Quicksilver on February 02, 2013, 01:19:56 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 02, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
For the life of me I can't understand the love affair with the plas-tikka rifles. I don't care how good they shoot.For many, that's why they buy a particular rifle.
Post by: JM on February 02, 2013, 04:33:26 PM
Post by: kentrek on February 02, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
I'd say a Rem. Mod 700 in the 270 WSM because it blows so much meat up that you'll only have to pack out half of the deer.
thats a good way to get bad juju
Post by: haugenna on February 02, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
I'd say a Rem. Mod 700 in the 270 WSM because it blows so much meat up that you'll only have to pack out half of the deer.
Ummm that would be your bullet choice that blows up the meat, not the cartridge choice.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 02, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
Post by: Quicksilver on February 02, 2013, 06:23:50 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on February 02, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
McM Hunters Edge $550
bedding job $100
.5 MOA with Nosler's 130 Accubond load and right at your $1300 limit
Post by: jackelope on February 02, 2013, 07:05:12 PM
700 SPS stainless 270 $650But how much does it weigh?
McM Hunters Edge $550
bedding job $100
.5 MOA with Nosler's 130 Accubond load and right at your $1300 limit
Post by: JBar on February 02, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Post by: Curly on February 02, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
Post by: deerslyr on February 02, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
Forbes is supposed to be coming out with factory production rifles by March. Suggested retail around $1,400. That might fit the bill in .270 Win or .280 Rem. Link (http://www.forbesriflellc.com/Portals/0/Shot%20Show%202013%20newest.pdf) :tup:
They have a few in scheels over here. Pretty cool gun.
Post by: Taco280AI on February 03, 2013, 05:47:08 AM
700 SPS stainless 270 $650But how much does it weigh?
McM Hunters Edge $550
bedding job $100
.5 MOA with Nosler's 130 Accubond load and right at your $1300 limit
Post by: Bob33 on February 03, 2013, 07:49:13 AM
The Forbes is a high quality rifle but caliber choice is limited. If you want one of the calibers it is offered in, it would be a nice option.Forbes is supposed to be coming out with factory production rifles by March. Suggested retail around $1,400. That might fit the bill in .270 Win or .280 Rem. Link (http://www.forbesriflellc.com/Portals/0/Shot%20Show%202013%20newest.pdf) :tup:
They have a few in scheels over here. Pretty cool gun.
Post by: sako85 on February 03, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
a few years ago on this and this was my choice, maybe not for everybody else. I had a kimber in a
22-250 and it would not shoot anything worth a darn, my m700 would do circles around it.
With a lupi vx3 4.5x14 and sling is under 7lbs. Cal. of your choice but the sako 85 would be my rifle.
Was able to find it for 1167$. Just my nickle.
Post by: Quicksilver on February 03, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
also something to toss around is the load you're shooting may have something to do with the group you're getting. depending on barrel length, twist rate, bullet weight, powder amount and powder used are just some of the factors that could affect accuracy. on my .338 Lapua just .4gr difference in my reloads i noticed worse accuracy. factory reloads are generally consistent from the company, but a lot could vary too depending on the brand. just my thoughts....whatever rifle you decide to get remember finding the right bullet to shoot is the other half of the accuracy battle.
Post by: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
TIKKA is a solid out of the box performance tool that will do the job it is designed for, and for many lifetimes.
Post by: Quicksilver on February 03, 2013, 05:17:25 PM
Tikka is like buying a good quality tool for the job. Some of us will go buy Pittsburgh brand from harbor freight and hope it works or lasts.....Some of us will buy Snap On and know we have a overpriced excellent quality tool for life.... then some of us will buy Craftsman for excellent quality at a fair price.
TIKKA is a solid out of the box performance tool that will do the job it is designed for, and for many lifetimes.
so since i own all snap on i paid too much? :chuckle: haha they make me a living so it's worth the extra money for the best quality. good analogy though.
Post by: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
Tikka is like buying a good quality tool for the job. Some of us will go buy Pittsburgh brand from harbor freight and hope it works or lasts.....Some of us will buy Snap On and know we have a overpriced excellent quality tool for life.... then some of us will buy Craftsman for excellent quality at a fair price.
TIKKA is a solid out of the box performance tool that will do the job it is designed for, and for many lifetimes.
so since i own all snap on i paid too much? :chuckle: haha they make me a living so it's worth the extra money for the best quality. good analogy though.
Snap on Rocks I buy Snap On too selectively... just to clarify. I also buy harbor freight when I am only going to use the tool once. But all my rifles I want to shoot more than once and depend on the job it will do. I like your humor Quicksilver.
Post by: Skillet on February 03, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Sorry Skillet but the stock is the least of the differences between a Plas-tikka and a sako 85. If thats what you like then good for you but please dont try to say a tikka is a sako 85 with a shyty stock. Not even close.
Well, I didn't say that a tikka is a sako with a bad stock - and I wouldn't say that either as I have owned a Sako AV and am well aware of the differences. It is completely fair to say Sako and Tikka are like Cadillac and Chevrolet. Both made by the same corporation using shared engineering and production resources marketing to different clientele.
To the point of the OP's question, however, I stand by my comments that the Tikka is a much better bang for the buck, and will add that it may in fact be the best rifle for his stated requirements that is currently available OTC.
Post by: coachcw on February 03, 2013, 06:18:46 PM
Post by: liljozie495 on February 03, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Post by: jjhunter on February 03, 2013, 07:01:01 PM
Weighs 9 pounds with a 6.5-20x50 Leupold long range with M1 knobs.
Mine doesn't quite meet the price or weight threshold for this thread, but if a guy could get a used Montana on the cheap; the action/stock is great platform for a premium tube.
Post by: coachcw on February 03, 2013, 07:13:18 PM
Post by: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 07:15:43 PM
I've got a damned good one. It started as a Kimber Montana 270 wsm - did not shoot! Screwed a 26" #4.5 Krieger chambered in 7 wsm on it. Added a little aluminum and epoxy to the fore end and now have a shooter. Sub 1/2 MOA gun shooting 168 bergers behind a full case of H1000. Stretched it out to 1100 yards a couple weeks ago - First shot hit on a 18" square plate in a variable 9-14 mph crosswind.
Weighs 9 pounds with a 6.5-20x50 Leupold long range with M1 knobs.
Mine doesn't quite meet the price or weight threshold for this thread, but if a guy could get a used Montana on the cheap; the action/stock is great platform for a premium tube.
Thread is about a back country rifle. 9 lbs does not qualify in my book. That is why I take the TIKKA and not the 30-378 into the back country.
Post by: grade-creek-rd on February 03, 2013, 07:20:12 PM
I also re-load and shoot the GMX 139 grn bullet with 45.5 grns of IMR4350...plenty of bullet and speed to kill my 4 point muley and 4 point Toutle bull with one shot each in 2011 (I killed my deer this year with my muzzy...but that is a different story).
G-C-R
No matter what you get, get what you want, not what everyone else thinks you should get. For a true backcountry rifle, lighter is better, including glass...that way you will want to carry it.
Post by: jjhunter on February 03, 2013, 07:38:30 PM
I've got a damned good one. It started as a Kimber Montana 270 wsm - did not shoot! Screwed a 26" #4.5 Krieger chambered in 7 wsm on it. Added a little aluminum and epoxy to the fore end and now have a shooter. Sub 1/2 MOA gun shooting 168 bergers behind a full case of H1000. Stretched it out to 1100 yards a couple weeks ago - First shot hit on a 18" square plate in a variable 9-14 mph crosswind.
Weighs 9 pounds with a 6.5-20x50 Leupold long range with M1 knobs.
Mine doesn't quite meet the price or weight threshold for this thread, but if a guy could get a used Montana on the cheap; the action/stock is great platform for a premium tube.
Thread is about a back country rifle. 9 lbs does not qualify in my book. That is why I take the TIKKA and not the 30-378 into the back country.
Like I stated, mine doesn't meet the weight threshold, but, you could buy a used Montana, screw a 22-24"
#2 on it, go with some lighter glass, and have a damned fine backcountry rifle for under $1300.
Post by: jackelope on February 03, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
That's it. The law has been laid down. Anyone with a rifle over 9 pounds is not allowed to take it into any wilderness areas.I've got a damned good one. It started as a Kimber Montana 270 wsm - did not shoot! Screwed a 26" #4.5 Krieger chambered in 7 wsm on it. Added a little aluminum and epoxy to the fore end and now have a shooter. Sub 1/2 MOA gun shooting 168 bergers behind a full case of H1000. Stretched it out to 1100 yards a couple weeks ago - First shot hit on a 18" square plate in a variable 9-14 mph crosswind.
Weighs 9 pounds with a 6.5-20x50 Leupold long range with M1 knobs.
Mine doesn't quite meet the price or weight threshold for this thread, but if a guy could get a used Montana on the cheap; the action/stock is great platform for a premium tube.
Thread is about a back country rifle. 9 lbs does not qualify in my book. That is why I take the TIKKA and not the 30-378 into the back country.
Hah...I shouldn't expect anything less from dscubame.
Post by: deerslyr on February 03, 2013, 11:01:29 PM
looks like I'm gonna go with a weatherby ulta light . above the price limit new . But a member has one at a fair price in .270 win . will top it with a vx3 bdc at 15 oz should come in just under 6 3/4 lbs . looking forward to sending a few sst's down range . thanks for all the input the sako was going to be my next choice . the .338 fedral just falls off to quick and the .270 is a good standby round .
I run hornady superformance SSTs out of my 270 when deer is on the menu. Best grouping and flatest shooting round ive tried. Some how hornady made that round extremely fast while having reduced recoil? There is a considerable difference in recoil between the superformance and federal premiums 140 grain accubonds. I was actually quite surprised. Ive seen a couple of threads on various forums that ran the superformance through chronies and got close to there claimed velocities as well.
Post by: coachcw on February 04, 2013, 06:15:37 AM
Post by: JM on February 04, 2013, 07:22:26 AM
That's what people keep telling me? I shot a buck in Wa this year with the POS corelokts and blew the heck out of it. So somebody told to use a better bullet, so I did and I blew the hell out of the buck I killed in Idaho this year? I've killed a bear and I think 5 deer with this gun and It has been the same outcome if the bullet touches a bone it turns everything around it to jelly.I'd say a Rem. Mod 700 in the 270 WSM because it blows so much meat up that you'll only have to pack out half of the deer.
Ummm that would be your bullet choice that blows up the meat, not the cartridge choice.
Post by: Skillet on February 04, 2013, 07:29:24 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on February 04, 2013, 07:34:42 AM
I've killed a bear and I think 5 deer with this gun and It has been the same outcome if the bullet touches a bone it turns everything around it to jelly.I'd say a Rem. Mod 700 in the 270 WSM because it blows so much meat up that you'll only have to pack out half of the deer.
Ummm that would be your bullet choice that blows up the meat, not the cartridge choice.
Sounds deadly
Post by: JM on February 04, 2013, 07:39:13 AM
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2013, 08:13:47 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 04, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
Post by: suga on February 04, 2013, 08:16:57 AM
Post by: JM on February 04, 2013, 08:19:56 AM
What other bullet did you try? I agree with trying a TSX or Accubonds. They will do a better job of staying together. Hitting bone is tough on bullets though.
I'd have to look at the box, but I paid upwards of $50 for the box and I'm pretty sure that they were a bonded bullet
Post by: bobcat on February 04, 2013, 08:20:47 AM
I'm not knockin the rifle. It hasn't done me wrong in the harvesting aspect, I'm just sayin that I have had bad experiences with meat waste, and anyone who's ever killed a buck in Tampico knows that there's not much to spare. Backin off to 200 is probably a good idea, I killed the Idaho buck at 20 yds and clipped his front shoulder. It wasn't pretty
A 100% copper bullet like the Barnes will help, and you could also go to a heavier bullet like a 150, so the velocity won't be quite so much.
Post by: dscubame on February 04, 2013, 08:24:36 AM
That's it. The law has been laid down. Anyone with a rifle over 9 pounds is not allowed to take it into any wilderness areas.I've got a damned good one. It started as a Kimber Montana 270 wsm - did not shoot! Screwed a 26" #4.5 Krieger chambered in 7 wsm on it. Added a little aluminum and epoxy to the fore end and now have a shooter. Sub 1/2 MOA gun shooting 168 bergers behind a full case of H1000. Stretched it out to 1100 yards a couple weeks ago - First shot hit on a 18" square plate in a variable 9-14 mph crosswind.
Weighs 9 pounds with a 6.5-20x50 Leupold long range with M1 knobs.
Mine doesn't quite meet the price or weight threshold for this thread, but if a guy could get a used Montana on the cheap; the action/stock is great platform for a premium tube.
:dunno: Sounds like Jack has an axe to grind and putting words in my mouth. :dunno:
Thread is about a back country rifle. 9 lbs does not qualify in my book. That is why I take the TIKKA and not the 30-378 into the back country.
Hah...I shouldn't expect anything less from dscubame.
Post by: Curly on February 04, 2013, 08:51:28 AM
At the velocities that the 270 WSM runs, I pretty much stick to either the TSX or the Accubond. And if I see a deer at 100 yards, I'll sprint 200 yards in the other direction before I shoot to reduce the terminal velocity :chuckle:
This is funny............and a good idea. :) :chuckle:
Post by: coachcw on February 04, 2013, 09:36:11 AM
Post by: Bob33 on February 04, 2013, 09:43:09 AM
I've also shot a lot of antelope with a 270 WSM and 130 grain TSX bullets. Same results: no problems whatsoever.
Post by: Skillet on February 04, 2013, 10:44:43 AM
I have shot a whole lot of pronghorns with a .25 caliber 100 grain TSX leaving the muzzle at 3600 ft/second.
That is a hotrod, Bob. .257 Roy, I presume? How long of a tube do you need to get that velocity?
What other bullet did you try? I agree with trying a TSX or Accubonds. They will do a better job of staying together. Hitting bone is tough on bullets though.
I'd have to look at the box, but I paid upwards of $50 for the box and I'm pretty sure that they were a bonded bullet
Sounds like the Federal Premium Accubonds to me. Orange box, right? I have to say, I'm surprised that happened - but if it was shock trauma due to the shot being at 20 yards I don't know anything would have helped, except not hitting that bone. 130 grains at 3200 FPS (muzzle) is nothing to sneeze at.
Post by: Bob33 on February 04, 2013, 10:57:10 AM
Yes; I have a 26" barrel on it.I have shot a whole lot of pronghorns with a .25 caliber 100 grain TSX leaving the muzzle at 3600 ft/second.
That is a hotrod, Bob. .257 Roy, I presume? How long of a tube do you need to get that velocity?
Post by: JM on February 04, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
Post by: deerslyr on February 04, 2013, 12:19:13 PM
Post by: Curly on February 04, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
Those corelokts are absolute garbage though
:yeah:
A lot of people swear by them though. I'm not sure why the love for them, but there certainly are better built bullets out there.
Post by: coachcw on February 04, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
Post by: knight on February 04, 2013, 03:44:52 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 04, 2013, 05:42:33 PM
Post by: blacktailcody on February 04, 2013, 05:58:06 PM
Post by: tgray on February 05, 2013, 08:31:23 AM
When and where.:yeah:
Post by: blacktailcody on February 05, 2013, 08:40:59 AM
When and where.:yeah:
We gotta teach these rookie marlin guys who makes good guns.
Post by: tgray on February 05, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
:IBCOOL:i have 4 tikka t3's and love everyone of them. For the money I don't think they can be beat.When and where.:yeah:
We gotta teach these rookie marlin guys who makes good guns.
Post by: blacktailcody on February 05, 2013, 01:09:54 PM
:IBCOOL:i have 4 tikka t3's and love everyone of them. For the money I don't think they can be beat.When and where.:yeah:
We gotta teach these rookie marlin guys who makes good guns.
Amen brotha.
Post by: Huntboy on February 05, 2013, 01:12:18 PM
Post by: coachcw on February 05, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Post by: coachcw on February 05, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 05, 2013, 01:48:56 PM
Those corelokts are absolute garbage though
:yeah:
A lot of people swear by them though. I'm not sure why the love for them, but there certainly are better built bullets out there.
I saw an article a few months back, pretty sure it was in Eastmans, comparing a number of different bullets against various measurables and hunting qualities. As I recall, the corelokt faired surprisingly well. :dunno:
Post by: Bob33 on February 05, 2013, 02:24:04 PM
Even though I have used them successfully, I would not choose them under most circumstances since there are better options.
I really don't understand the "they're cheaper" argument for most hunting situations. Hunters will spend hundreds on licenses and fees, hundreds on travel costs, and complain about a premium bullet that costs $2. The bullet is the only item that kills the animal you've spent hundreds on.
Post by: coachcw on February 05, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on February 06, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
Post by: smdave on February 06, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
Why is there a weight restriction on this "backcountry" rifle topic? I consider that to mean whatever rifle you can or want to pack in and hunt with. In which case is my .338 edge :) scoped weight of 12lbs, 300gr Berger VLD @ 2950fps, 4" groups at 900 yards. I'll put that up against anybody's Tikka, any day.
Because the Original post asked.
"The criteria is less than 7lbs without scope"
Post by: coachcw on February 06, 2013, 12:45:57 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2013, 12:53:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
Remington model 700 Mountain RifleNice rifle but probably not "the most accurate" until a guy puts some work and more money into it.
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
I have a 13 lbs long range system . I was looking for a package that one would want to cary into the back country .You could have Kris carry your 13 lb'er for you. He said he would. I swear it.
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2013, 01:03:35 PM
About 7.5lbs scoped which puts it under the 7lb unscoped criteria. The Edge stocks are very light, think mine is 23oz IIRC.i just sold one that weighed 7.5 lbs without a scope or ammo, I've never seen a stock SPS that didn't weigh at least 7.25 lbs bare. :twocents:700 SPS stainless 270 $650But how much does it weigh?
McM Hunters Edge $550
bedding job $100
.5 MOA with Nosler's 130 Accubond load and right at your $1300 limit
Post by: Curly on February 06, 2013, 01:05:35 PM
The Forbes is a high quality rifle but caliber choice is limited. If you want one of the calibers it is offered in, it would be a nice option.Forbes is supposed to be coming out with factory production rifles by March. Suggested retail around $1,400. That might fit the bill in .270 Win or .280 Rem. Link (http://www.forbesriflellc.com/Portals/0/Shot%20Show%202013%20newest.pdf) :tup:
They have a few in scheels over here. Pretty cool gun.
I agree. I actually think that the new Forbes rifle is a bargain at the prices they are being offered for what the quality is going to be (assuming they are close to the quality of NULA rifles). I imagine that once they start becoming more well known and demand goes up, they will increase the prices. They will also have a better selection of cartridges that they are chambered in.
I've drooled over the NULA rifles for years, and now Forbes is finally coming out with an "inexpensive" version of those. Wish I could justify spending the money right now...........(okay, I probably can justify it (safer than buying stocks, or putting money in the bank)......just need to convince the wife....... 8)
Post by: Skillet on February 06, 2013, 02:19:51 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on February 06, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
About 7.5lbs scoped which puts it under the 7lb unscoped criteria. The Edge stocks are very light, think mine is 23oz IIRC.i just sold one that weighed 7.5 lbs without a scope or ammo, I've never seen a stock SPS that didn't weigh at least 7.25 lbs bare. :twocents:700 SPS stainless 270 $650But how much does it weigh?
McM Hunters Edge $550
bedding job $100
.5 MOA with Nosler's 130 Accubond load and right at your $1300 limit
Was that factory tupperware or with the graphite construction McMillan Hunter's Edge stock?
Post by: huntnphool on February 06, 2013, 02:40:23 PM
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Post by: Skillet on February 06, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
Post by: Curly on February 06, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
Just checked out Forbes' website. Really doesn't look overly expensive for what you get - but good lord, I hope he can build a better rifle than he does a website and catalog. I couldn't find barrel length anywhere. Anybody know what it is for each caliber? :dunno:
I'm not sure......sounds like 24". Here is what I read in an article (http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/forbes-rifle-model-24b-review/) :
"Whereas NULA uses Douglas barrels—customer-selected for material, length, contour and twist rate, all of which significantly contribute to the rifles’ $3,100 starting price—no such options are available from Forbes Rifle LLC. The Model 24Bs will feature standardized 24-inch, sporter-contour Bulldog barrels, though the test gun, serial No. 11-00001, had a 23-inch version"
Post by: Skillet on February 06, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on February 06, 2013, 11:33:00 PM
Remington model 700 Mountain RifleNice rifle but probably not "the most accurate" until a guy puts some work and more money into it.
Not the most accurate, but plenty accurate at about 1" at 100 yards with factory .270 Win 150 grain NPs. At $700 used with decent glass and at about 7 lbs., a man would be hard pressed to complain.
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Post by: Simcoe hunter on February 09, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
I agree that exploding meat is a result of shot misplacement, as much as anything usually. Took a move in from a big deer state hunting several years ago. He complained that we had such small deer when he only had 30 pounds of meat after butchering. He forgot that he put a 180 grain '06 through the the center of the front quarters, one through the breadbasket and one dead center of the hind quarters. All three were through and throughs.
Post by: jody on February 09, 2013, 05:13:52 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on February 09, 2013, 06:13:59 PM
Remington model 700 Mountain Rifle
Definitely agree on the Remington 700 Mountain. Have one in 30-06. I would also add a Sako L579 Mannlicher in .308 that I've used for years (thanks to John Wootters, may he rest in peace). That Sako is an absolute joy to pack all day. Both make lightweight companions. :tup:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl241%2FSS30ANV%2FMountain198830-06.jpg&hash=dd2ac4bfc5ab1e7f6dd8f80175c2176583e2914e)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi98.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl241%2FSS30ANV%2FSako308Mannlicher.jpg&hash=f4aca0d5979a2a1f9f5c3f6644705e0335df0e03)
Post by: coachcw on February 09, 2013, 06:46:18 PM
Post by: birdwacker on February 09, 2013, 06:46:58 PM
So here's the setup mark v ultra light .270 with a vx3 4.5x14 . I know the buget on the thread was $1300 , after trades and sales along with a bunch of cabellas points i'm in her under the budget with the scope , pretty good for a package that would be $2800.00 new . after dissasemblly and a bit of sanding on the stock along with a few drops of lock tight she's ready to play .Just wondering why you sanded the stock :dunno: I read somewhere that weatherby found they shot better without free floating the barrel.
Post by: coachcw on February 09, 2013, 08:51:58 PM
Post by: birdwacker on February 09, 2013, 08:59:38 PM
It had contact on the right side at the tip of the stock wasn't even contact. the rest of the barel floated . thats all could have been a slight warpage in the stock . Every rifle i've had has been floated with good results . on a quick two or three shot sequence i'm sure it wasn't enough to cause an issue . I wasn't looking to modify it just found the erratic contact while cleaning and loc tighting the screws and checking for any saftey issues . i'm sure wheatherby didn't intend the contact I was seeing on the stock . Overall very pleased with the craftsmanship of the rifle. I couldn't blieve how light the stock is on this rifle . gonna be carefull not to store it with wieht on the fore end.I'm sure your going to like how it shoots.
Post by: coachcw on February 09, 2013, 09:25:15 PM
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Post by: dscubame on February 10, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
my trg came with the detachable mag . Wyatts my have a mag kit for the wheatherby though . What model is your 30-378 ?
A detachable mag would be nice I will have to look into that. Thanks for the info.
Model is a Mark V Accumark.
Post by: Quicksilver on February 10, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
It looks like I'm gonna have to pull a multi season permit gotta get the use outta some of these rifles and I just can't give up the sharp sticks . i've just about completed my gun safe . here's the coverage and cals . .17hmr savage bull barell, ruger m77 .260, mark v ultra light .270, rem 700 custom long range 6.5x284. and a sako trg in 30-378. , still have my mauser 98 from when i was a kid (sentimental) I'd like to ad a big bore in the future but africa is not in the cards in the near future so i still have time . I've had many rifles but will say this group should cover most any hunters needs. WHATS YOUR SET ?
pretty sure the sako trg 22 is only .308 and the trg 42 is only .300wm and .338lm. they don't offer a .30-378.
Post by: jackelope on February 10, 2013, 10:18:59 PM
http://www.sako.fi/oldmodels.php?trg-s
Post by: Quicksilver on February 10, 2013, 10:33:50 PM
Sure they do.well i stand corrected :sry:...i'm so caught up in the current and future market that i never check old discontinued models haha, honestly didn't know about this older trg, I've never heard anybody talk about it, it's always the trg 42....little different looking than my trg that's for sure! 30-378 would be a cool caliber to still have around though. although with the lapua tossed in there's not really any point.
http://www.sako.fi/oldmodels.php?trg-s (http://www.sako.fi/oldmodels.php?trg-s)
Post by: coachcw on February 11, 2013, 06:09:57 AM
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