Post by: trophyhunt on February 03, 2013, 11:30:07 AM
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Post by: trophyhunt on February 03, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
the real reason why i think they havnt sold out is because kapowsin permits cant axcess the eatonville side this year plus all the other reasons stated above i bought white river permit this year because i didnt want to deal with the people in kapowsin speeding up behind you and flashing their lights telling you to move over during modern deer seasonFind a gated area and hunt it, you'll be much happier getting off those roads.
Post by: MooseStock on February 03, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
Post by: huntingfool7 on February 04, 2013, 05:22:11 AM
Fire closures, less animals, closing sections for spring bear permits, raising permit fees.
Looks like they've hit a price point vs. benefit level that makes a lot of us debate the $350
Post by: trophyhunt on February 04, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
Post by: bigtex on February 04, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
the real reason why i think they havnt sold out is because kapowsin permits cant axcess the eatonville side this year
:yeah:
Post by: throttlejocky20 on February 04, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
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Post by: trophyhunt on February 19, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Not familiar with Kapowsin. You guys pay $350 to access timber company land?Yes, it also enters you into a drawing for 1 of 6 permits they give out to hunt elk. If it wasn't for the elk drawing I wouldn't be buying this permit everyear. They give you a key so you come and go when you want, some rules when you can be in there. They will give you a map with rules and they have gated off walk in only areas, lots of land to find you own place away from people. But the deer number have seemed to go down the past few years.
Post by: trophyhunt on February 19, 2013, 10:16:37 AM
I hope they dont sell out. Every year they change boundries, allow more permits, and raise prices. I understand making money and i have no issue paying to access land but i believe they are starting to get a little greedy. The last year i bought a permit was only to have a chance at the elk hunt. The odds of drawing that permit are terrible and $350 for the entry wasn't worth it. I hope someone on this site gets it so we can see some good horn porn, there is some absolut pigs in there!!!!!I don't there's ever been a time when they didn't sell out? It will be curious to see if they do sell out, if they don't I wonder when they would do the elk drawing????
Post by: heavy hauler on February 19, 2013, 03:44:28 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on February 19, 2013, 03:56:49 PM
dont worry, if they sell out. they will just make more keys. :tup: you can only deplete a resource (in this case big bucks and bulls) so much . additional keys obviuosly mean more hunters and that has dropped the quality every year. :twocents:Agreed its not what it once was!
Post by: trophyhunt on February 23, 2013, 03:42:33 PM
Post by: LBES on February 23, 2013, 10:10:39 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on February 24, 2013, 07:56:51 AM
hmmm... you guys aren't making this sound too good? I picked up my first permit when they went on sale this year. I figure I'll check out the land and see if it's worth investing in yearly. The elk draw was a motivator, and being so close I almost was forced into it. There's something to said for being minutes away from the woods. Good luck guys!There is alot of animals in there but its not a garantee animal. You will have to scout and hunt hard to fill your tag with a decent buck!
Post by: cem3434 on February 24, 2013, 03:13:50 PM
Or maybe because the dry weather kept us out most of the season. In addition, the fire wood was so picked over. Unless you cheated which I saw several do, it's tough to pencil out the cost. Deer were far and few. New gate closures and economy. :twocents::yeah: I bought one last year and didn't think it was all that it's cracked up to be. IMO, it's to much money for what you get out of it. Closing the Eatonville gates and poor wood cutting areas make the $350 hard to swallow.
Post by: wright on February 24, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
Post by: Mudman on February 24, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 24, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
Have you heard about the Indians wanting all rights to hunt elk behind Kapowsin gates ! Just one thing they don't want you to know.Hancock has called there land NOT open and unclaimed land which has kept the indians out in the past. If they ever start hunting in there, it's all over and they won't be the only ones hunting elk in there. The mucks will slaughter the elk in there when they eventually own the place, I really don't believe they will be able to hunt in there until they buy it. It will be a very dark day when they buy Hancock. :bash: :bash:
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Post by: grundy53 on March 01, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
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Post by: skywalker253 on March 01, 2013, 03:06:18 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on March 01, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2013, 03:16:21 PM
What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
I was told the drawing dosent happen untill june? Was someone told they draw the tags after they sell out?After they sell out, which will be soon, they will draw the permits before the state deadline for special permits. Last year it was sometime in mid April if I remember correctly. They will absolutly draw before the state deadline though.
Post by: skywalker253 on March 02, 2013, 07:56:38 PM
What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
So you pay $350 for private land access. Then you apply for a special permit in the game regs to get a chance at a trophy bull? If you don't get drawn, then you have general season rules (3 point or better for elk/Any Buck for Deer)???
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
So you pay $350 for private land access. Then you apply for a special permit in the game regs to get a chance at a trophy bull? If you don't get drawn, then you have general season rules (3 point or better for elk/Any Buck for Deer)???
No. Hancock only let's 6 of the 1200 permittees hunt Bulls in there. Hancock does the drawing. The state is not involved.
Post by: skywalker253 on March 02, 2013, 08:06:09 PM
What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
So you pay $350 for private land access. Then you apply for a special permit in the game regs to get a chance at a trophy bull? If you don't get drawn, then you have general season rules (3 point or better for elk/Any Buck for Deer)???
No. Hancock only let's 6 of the 1200 permittees hunt Bulls in there. Hancock does the drawing. The state is not involved.
Do you get an automatic entry into the drawing by paying the $350 or do you have to buy raffle tickets seperately?
So you can't hunt elk at all if you don't get drawn for their bull raffle? but you can hunt Any Buck deer?
Can you have a partner come with you; if you get drawn, as long as they are not hunting (pack bitch)?
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 08:10:28 PM
Yes you are automatically entered into the drawing. If you get drawn you can have one helper come with you. You can't hunt elk unless you are one of the six drawn. Except there is a special permit cow hunt in January that you can hunt cows (WDFW Permit) Yes you can hunt deer in there.What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
So you pay $350 for private land access. Then you apply for a special permit in the game regs to get a chance at a trophy bull? If you don't get drawn, then you have general season rules (3 point or better for elk/Any Buck for Deer)???
No. Hancock only let's 6 of the 1200 permittees hunt Bulls in there. Hancock does the drawing. The state is not involved.
Do you get an automatic entry into the drawing by paying the $350 or do you have to buy raffle tickets seperately?
So you can't hunt elk at all if you don't get drawn for their bull raffle? but you can hunt Any Buck deer?
Can you have a partner come with you; if you get drawn, as long as they are not hunting (pack bitch)?
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
Anyone got a website link or phone number? I will buy mine now. It is close to home for me. I live in Graham.
http://hancockrecreationnw.com/ (http://hancockrecreationnw.com/)
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on March 02, 2013, 08:16:22 PM
Yes you are automatically entered into the drawing. If you get drawn you can have one helper come with you. You can't hunt elk unless you are one of the six drawn. Except there is a special permit cow hunt in January that you can hunt cows (WDFW Permit) Yes you can hunt deer in there.What is the Kapowsin permit? What makes it so special?It's a permit that gives you a key to access thousands of acres of private gated land to hunt deer, bear, predators and do what ever. They draw 6 permit holders for a chance to hunt elk on the property, big elk. It is located in the kapowsin area, you can take up to 5 cords of wood with your permit. They only sell 1200 permits, which I think is too much. The deer hunting used to be better but it's still ok, I would hope with the gates there is less poaching. The permit cost 350.00, expensive so it's a tough decision but it's close to home for me.
So you pay $350 for private land access. Then you apply for a special permit in the game regs to get a chance at a trophy bull? If you don't get drawn, then you have general season rules (3 point or better for elk/Any Buck for Deer)???
No. Hancock only let's 6 of the 1200 permittees hunt Bulls in there. Hancock does the drawing. The state is not involved.
Do you get an automatic entry into the drawing by paying the $350 or do you have to buy raffle tickets seperately?
So you can't hunt elk at all if you don't get drawn for their bull raffle? but you can hunt Any Buck deer?
Can you have a partner come with you; if you get drawn, as long as they are not hunting (pack bitch)?
Do you buy one every year? I just checked out their website. Seems like a great deal if you get drawn; if not, it seems a little steep in price for a deer.
Do they offer the bull raffle tag in White River or Eatonville?
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 08:19:46 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on March 02, 2013, 08:30:33 PM
one Eatonville permittee is drawn. There is no drawing for white river or Snoqualmie so anyone can hunt elk in those 2 tree farms.
So if you apply for the White River Special Permit, then you better buy an acces permit before hand or you cannot access the area to fill your tag?
Post by: grundy53 on March 02, 2013, 08:34:33 PM
Not all of the White river GMU is in Hancock's White river tree farm. Also, If White River tree farm sells out of permits I believe Hancock will sell you a special one for just your hunt for like $100.one Eatonville permittee is drawn. There is no drawing for white river or Snoqualmie so anyone can hunt elk in those 2 tree farms.
So if you apply for the White River Special Permit, then you better buy an acces permit before hand or you cannot access the area to fill your tag?
Post by: trophyhunt on March 13, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 13, 2013, 06:52:12 PM
Post by: Swatson on March 14, 2013, 09:06:08 PM
I wouldn't even hunt the hancock land if I drew that permit, there are much better places to hunt.
shhhhhh That's enough out of you!!! :)
Post by: cougkilr on March 14, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
Post by: Hawgdawg on March 14, 2013, 09:21:57 PM
Not all of the White river GMU is in Hancock's White river tree farm. Also, If White River tree farm sells out of permits I believe Hancock will sell you a special one for just your hunt for like $100.one Eatonville permittee is drawn. There is no drawing for white river or Snoqualmie so anyone can hunt elk in those 2 tree farms.
So if you apply for the White River Special Permit, then you better buy an acces permit before hand or you cannot access the area to fill your tag?
Dream on!
Post by: Hawgdawg on March 14, 2013, 09:26:06 PM
you can also cut up to 5 cords of firewood a year in there.
And they shut it down for fire danger when you are cutting in a foot of snow. Picked over and the won't let you winch wood out. I am done after 13 years of giving the Indian friendly tree prostitutes another dime!
Post by: trophyhunt on March 26, 2013, 06:36:06 PM
Post by: cem3434 on March 26, 2013, 09:55:34 PM
Post by: grundy53 on March 27, 2013, 07:58:54 AM
Just checked and it says sold out. 6 guys (or gals) should be getting a phone call that will make your elk season a lot more interesting in the very near future! Good luck to everyone in the drawing.
I just checked and it said the number available was -1 sounds like they over sold :chuckle: :chuckle:. Our odds just got worse :chuckle: :chuckle:.
Post by: justyhntr on March 27, 2013, 09:17:09 AM
How do they keep pulling these outta there hats??
R U effing kidding me???
Post by: Hawgdawg on March 27, 2013, 09:27:24 AM
They are down to 3 permits!! Elk drawing will be soon. As far as them being friendly to the indians, I'm not sure what your referring to? I'm no big fan of what they charge but I do like the fact that in the kapowsin tree farm they keep the indians out from poaching by saying it's NOT unclaimed land. It's probably the only property that large that they are not allowed to enter and hunt at free will, I'm not sure about the Buckley gate and the land in that area but in the kapowsin gate, I've never seen an indian once on that property. They will own it someday, but for now, them not being in there is the reason it's one of the best elk draws in the state. Once they buy it, it will all go away.Look harder. They even run tribal hounds in there. In addition, a reliable source told me they have already purchased some property around the lake.
Your right about the elk draw. That is the only thing I regret about not buying in. Good luck!
Post by: muzbuster on March 27, 2013, 09:34:44 AM
[They even run tribal hounds in there. In addition, a reliable source told me they have already purchased some property around the lake.
Yes they have purchased property next to Kapowsin lake and it wont be to much longer before they purchase the entire place. :bash:
Post by: hunterrcc on March 27, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
"We haven't sold out there were 11 left earlier today, it was a problem with the counter. We are not selling more then 1200 permits, every is how its always been. Hopefully I will be able to do it next Friday, we will post it as soon as the winners have been notified."
Well hopefully that is true!
Post by: throttlejocky20 on March 28, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
[They even run tribal hounds in there. In addition, a reliable source told me they have already purchased some property around the lake.They sold every thing below the 100 line to the indians. That makes up the whole back side of Kapowison lake. I heard a rumor the indians plan to put a casino back there but don't take that to the bank as I have not heard anything further.
Yes they have purchased property next to Kapowsin lake and it wont be to much longer before they purchase the entire place. :bash:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 28, 2013, 04:59:19 PM
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Post by: Alan K on March 28, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Post by: scottfrick on March 30, 2013, 11:05:57 PM
Post by: Alan K on March 31, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
I can't imagine these are refundable, so the possibility of permits being initially bought but then being reoffered is out of the question. I'm guessing they are willing to sell as many as people are willing to purchase, but internally have a set cutoff date for their permit draw. Maybe 3/31? Probably want to make it look like there are only a few left and people need to buy them ASAP. Don't know, but that's what it sure looks like. I don't know of any way for anyone but Hancock to truly know how many permits have been sold, so why not sell as many as possible under the guise of 1200 or whatever they advertise. Not like any of the purchasers can tell from how many people they see up there how many permits were sold. :dunno:
:yike: :chuckle:
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 31, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 01, 2013, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 02, 2013, 07:02:39 PM
Did they have the elk drawing yet? :dunno:They said the drawing will be April 5th but with all the bs so far this year...who know's.
Post by: scottfrick on April 05, 2013, 05:07:45 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on April 05, 2013, 07:26:23 PM
Post by: Hawgdawg on April 05, 2013, 07:42:24 PM
It says they will email notify the draw winners by April 1, and it's the 5th, so I guess I am SOL.
Eighteen suckers left...then they will all of a sudden have another 50. wake up!
Post by: Old Man Yager on April 05, 2013, 07:45:08 PM