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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 02:31:06 PM

Title: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 02:31:06 PM: So my buddy and I went out yesterday to do some predator hunting and shooting. I loaded the mag and inserted it but did not chamber a round. I had looked at the safety tang and it was set on safe. Well we get to our set up and I chamber a round and recheck my safety. As soon as my tumb hits it it just spins and wont set. I remove the mag and round from the chamber and look to see whats wrong. I pull the whole safety lever out. Actually it practically just fell out. It doesnt look broken. Does anyone know what failed? I cant see what failed or is wrong. Only thing I can see maybe is the detent pin and spring is missing. But don't know if it fell out after I pulled the lever out. Could it just be the detent pin and spring failed?

This is why you always follow safe gun handling. Safeties do fail. Scary to think what accident could have happened.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 02:44:15 PM: Has the grip been removed lately? Sounds like the detent is gone.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 02:56:34 PM: The detent is gone or the detent spring is broke.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 03:20:06 PM: Quote from: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 02:44:15 PM
Has the grip been removed lately? Sounds like the detent is gone.

yes I changed the grip out. How would it have done this? Im not at home right now but will look at this when I am.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 03:32:59 PM: I see on a schematic how it works. So I probably lost the spring and/or detent. Thanks guys. Hopefully these aren't hard to get.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 03, 2013, 03:33:13 PM: The Safety detent and spring are held in by the grip. They probably fell out when you removed the old grip.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 03:33:26 PM: The detent and spring are held in place by the grip. So when you pulled the old grip off and did not know this, it probably fell out.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 03:34:23 PM: doggy beat me by 13 seconds :chuckle:

You should be able to find them, check ebay :tup:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 03, 2013, 03:38:49 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 03:34:23 PM
doggy beat me by 13 seconds :chuckle:

You should be able to find them, check ebay :tup:

Sorry, Carp! :chuckle: If you can't find the parts locally, Midway sells individual AR parts. The Safety detent pin is slightly different than the other detent pins--it's got a liitle hat-shaped end...
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 03:42:35 PM: :chuckle: No need to be sorry at least we are both telling him the same info :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 03, 2013, 03:46:13 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on February 03, 2013, 03:42:35 PM
:chuckle: No need to be sorry at least we are both telling him the same info :chuckle:

:tup:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 04:33:26 PM: Yeah at least you guys are consistant :chuckle: Just got home and checked it out. Yep thats what happened. I didn't know this when I changed the grip. I did find the detent but no spring. The detent is pointed on one end and has a rim on the other. Thanks again.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 04:43:11 PM: Eugene Stoner developed a heck of a simplistic yet effective combat rifle, love the AR. It is like to old trucks that we use to be able to fix in our garage, before all the damn electronics.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 03, 2013, 04:52:21 PM: Quote from: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
Eugene Stoner developed a heck of a simplistic yet effective combat rifle, love the AR. It is like to old trucks that we use to be able to fix in our garage, before all the damn electronics.

:yeah: A design that's 50 years old, and more popular than ever. What a legacy!
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 05:22:39 PM: Same goes for the 100 year old 1911 :tup:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: dscubame on February 03, 2013, 05:24:35 PM: 1911 is what my next Cabelas dollars are going towards....adding them up! :tup:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 06:52:10 PM: Quote from: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 02:44:15 PM
Has the grip been removed lately? Sounds like the detent is gone.

yes I changed the grip out. How would it have done this? Im not at home right now but will look at this when I am.

Where are you located? I have the parts you need. If we can meet somewhere you can have them.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 07:47:40 PM: I am in Granite Falls. Thats a great offer. I just ordered a lower spring kit for $7.79 so that didn't seem too bad. I checked Midway and and they are backorderd (seems they are always backordered on everything they list but no one else is. Tired of Midway but thats another thread) They wanted $1.99 + $4.00 S/H + $3.00 for minimum order. So $8.99 for a spring. I don't think so.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 03, 2013, 08:10:14 PM: Quote from: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 07:47:40 PM
I am in Granite Falls. Thats a great offer. I just ordered a lower spring kit for $7.79 so that didn't seem too bad. I checked Midway and and they are backorderd (seems they are always backordered on everything they list but no one else is. Tired of Midway but thats another thread) They wanted $1.99 + $4.00 S/H + $3.00 for minimum order. So $8.99 for a spring. I don't think so.

That is indeed a great offer. If it doesn't pan out, PM me. I may be able to help. No way a spring should cost more than a coupla bucks! :o
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 08:34:23 PM: I have done the same thing a time or two and a buddy who is a manufacturer sent me a care package. :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 09:20:37 PM: You guys are :tup:. I appreciate the offers. Stand up thing to do. Pretty difficult to find the spring by itself but as a kit the price wasn't bad (no S/H or tax) and will have some spares.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: actionshooter on February 03, 2013, 09:47:13 PM: Quote from: timberghost72 on February 03, 2013, 09:20:37 PM
You guys are :tup:. I appreciate the offers. Stand up thing to do. Pretty difficult to find the spring by itself but as a kit the price wasn't bad (no S/H or tax) and will have some spares.

That price doesn't seem bad..
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: jaymark6655 on February 05, 2013, 05:49:31 AM: :tup: Glad its an easy/cheap fix.

My tip of the day, do a function check everytime you do something to a firearm. I do them even after cleaning just to make sure I put it back together right.
Title: Re: AR safety broken
Post by: Fisherdave10 on February 05, 2013, 11:21:34 AM: Just for future reference, the Citizen's Armory is a great place for little AR-15 parts.

The parts are priced fair and the most important thing, they have very reasonable shipping charges.

http://www.thecitizensarmory.com/SafetySelector-Detent-Spring_p_48.html (http://www.thecitizensarmory.com/SafetySelector-Detent-Spring_p_48.html)

Here's the safety detent spring for $1. It will cost 70 cents to ship it USPS First Class :) .