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Title: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: BIGINNER on February 07, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
Has anyone ever used 9mm Luger cases trimmed down for reloading 9mm makarov?   
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: thinkingman on February 08, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
http://thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-307106.html (http://thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-307106.html)
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: BIGINNER on February 08, 2013, 12:24:02 PM
http://thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-307106.html (http://thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-307106.html)

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/reloading/116256-reloading-9mm-makarov-making-brass.html (http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/reloading/116256-reloading-9mm-makarov-making-brass.html)

here's what I found. 
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 08, 2013, 12:41:58 PM
You might be able to, but the case head diameter is different, and, believe it or not, Russian 9mm bullets are not the same diameter as European 9mm bullets.  9mm Luger and .380 Auto are .356"or .355" and 9mm Makarov bullets are .365" in diameter.
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 08, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
You might be able to, but the case head diameter is different, and, believe it or not, Russian 9mm bullets are not the same diameter as European 9mm bullets.  9mm Luger and .380 Auto are .356"or .355" and 9mm Makarov bullets are .365" in diameter.
True.
But as noted in the Defensive Carry link above, after you have loaded Mak lead for the first time in Luger trimmed cases you will have an hour glass effect in the case shape.  The brass does fire form after the first time and your good to go.

That write up is exactly how I have done it for quite a few years now for 9x18 Mak.  From sizing, flaring and trimming, etc.
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: BIGINNER on February 08, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
You might be able to, but the case head diameter is different, and, believe it or not, Russian 9mm bullets are not the same diameter as European 9mm bullets.  9mm Luger and .380 Auto are .356"or .355" and 9mm Makarov bullets are .365" in diameter.
True.
But as noted in the Defensive Carry link above, after you have loaded Mak lead for the first time in Luger trimmed cases you will have an hour glass effect in the case shape.  The brass does fire form after the first time and your good to go.

That write up is exactly how I have done it for quite a few years now for 9x18 Mak.  From sizing, flaring and trimming, etc.

hah!,  found the guy to ask questions from  :IBCOOL:   :chuckle:

so had you had a lot of the fire-formed brass looked damaged, burst, or crack?
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 08, 2013, 01:31:16 PM
You might be able to, but the case head diameter is different, and, believe it or not, Russian 9mm bullets are not the same diameter as European 9mm bullets.  9mm Luger and .380 Auto are .356"or .355" and 9mm Makarov bullets are .365" in diameter.
True.
But as noted in the Defensive Carry link above, after you have loaded Mak lead for the first time in Luger trimmed cases you will have an hour glass effect in the case shape.  The brass does fire form after the first time and your good to go.

That write up is exactly how I have done it for quite a few years now for 9x18 Mak.  From sizing, flaring and trimming, etc.

hah!,  found the guy to ask questions from  :IBCOOL:   :chuckle:

so had you had a lot of the fire-formed brass looked damaged, burst, or crack?
An occasional split case, but it's rare, very rare.  I wouldn't say it's anything different than the my 380, 40, 45 or even 44mag brass failures.
I typically use my Mak as a plinker.  So it's light loads.  Some of the brass has at least 8-9 reloads through it.   I have over 5000 mak brass in various forms of loaded/tumbled/fired/Luger to be sized state. 
Funny, I was going to knock out around a 1,000 rounds one of these evenings.  Thanks BIGI, I think I'll do that sooner now.   :chuckle:

Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: BIGINNER on February 08, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
no problem  :chuckle:
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 08, 2013, 02:00:07 PM
They are remarkably cose to being the same...several times, while resizing 9mm brass, one will "feel a little different".  On examination, it will be a Makarov or .380 case.  :chuckle:
 
Title: Re: using once fired 9mm brass to reload 9mm makarov
Post by: 6x6in6 on February 08, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
They are remarkably cose to being the same...several times, while resizing 9mm brass, one will "feel a little different".  On examination, it will be a Makarov or .380 case.  :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Have trouble separating...several times...and onto how they keep their junk sorted.
Standard thread jack material.  :chuckle:
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