Post by: 222Rem on February 09, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
Thanks 222Rem
Post by: 222Rem on February 10, 2013, 10:46:41 AM
Post by: Special T on February 10, 2013, 10:52:50 AM
This is what i use, and it shines them farther than i can shoot them. I beliver its rated at being able to read a book in pitch black 600meters from the light.
It looks like they may be coming out with some new product tho. :twocents:
Post by: calib on February 10, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
Post by: MadHatter on February 10, 2013, 06:31:30 PM
As for a light, I am just using a 850lumen black&decker light I got a walmart. It was ~$30, rechargeable and will put out enough light that I can comfortably see out to about 250yds at night.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 10, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 10, 2013, 06:43:15 PM
I have been spotlighting since the beginning of december... While in december I had some luck, I havent been out much since the beginning of the year... Had 3 yesterday morning before sun up, but couldn't get them stopped in the light long enough to get a shot off... Which is why I have a kill light on order for my rifle...Need a Red lens on your spotlight ! :tup:
As for a light, I am just using a 850lumen black&decker light I got a walmart. It was ~$30, rechargeable and will put out enough light that I can comfortably see out to about 250yds at night.
Post by: Dbax129 on February 11, 2013, 09:35:02 PM
I have been spotlighting since the beginning of december... While in december I had some luck, I havent been out much since the beginning of the year... Had 3 yesterday morning before sun up, but couldn't get them stopped in the light long enough to get a shot off... Which is why I have a kill light on order for my rifle...Yeah, I was there for that. Two people, we just couldnt quite get 'em. Now they are chasing the home owners dogs. Also not backing down right away. Homeowner ran out with a 2nd dog as the first was trying to get away. Crazy. We'll get 'em this week.
As for a light, I am just using a 850lumen black&decker light I got a walmart. It was ~$30, rechargeable and will put out enough light that I can comfortably see out to about 250yds at night.
Post by: halfpipe88 on February 12, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
I've had success, but I've also had problems...still deciding if it's worth it or not.
Post by: bigtex on February 12, 2013, 12:35:06 PM
I've had 3 sherriffs cars arrest me at gunpoint because someone called me and accused me of poaching deer when I was spotlighting for coyotes (it was out of big game season). They still took my gun and didn't get it back for a couple weeks 'cause they couldn't get a WDFW officer to pick up his radio.
I've had success, but I've also had problems...still deciding if it's worth it or not.
This type of thing isn't unheard of. Deputies, Troopers, and City Officers do not get any type of training in WA regarding hunting/fishing enforcement/laws, it is all self taught. Most people know that spotlighting is illegal, and often think if it's illegal to spotlight a deer, then it's illegal to spotlight a coyote.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 12, 2013, 12:45:36 PM
I've had 3 sherriffs cars arrest me at gunpoint because someone called me and accused me of poaching deer when I was spotlighting for coyotes (it was out of big game season). They still took my gun and didn't get it back for a couple weeks 'cause they couldn't get a WDFW officer to pick up his radio.Thats how I feel about too !! Almost everytime I have went at night someone has called the sheriff too...I do not remember having a warden come and check me while spotlighting ...I have called the local warden and told him about where I would be So if they got a call they would at least know I am out there :tup:
I've had success, but I've also had problems...still deciding if it's worth it or not.
Post by: sirmissalot on February 12, 2013, 12:52:35 PM
You wouldn't believe the amount of arguments I've got in with people claiming spotlighting is illegal.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 12, 2013, 12:53:55 PM
Post by: coyotehunter on February 12, 2013, 12:55:22 PM
http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/wicked-lights-w400-predator-pursuit-signature-series-pack-scan-shooter-kit-with-2-lights-white-red-and-green-leds-weapon-mounts-batteries-charger-w400pp/ (http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/wicked-lights-w400-predator-pursuit-signature-series-pack-scan-shooter-kit-with-2-lights-white-red-and-green-leds-weapon-mounts-batteries-charger-w400pp/)
They work extremely well and come in white, red and green. One mounted on my rifle is white, the one I scan with is green. Yes the Lightforce is stronger but I don't shoot 600 yards even in the daytime! Also The Wicked lights are WAY more affordable!
I also usually call law enforcement of the area ahead time and tell them what I'm doing. Sometimes they give static but as long as you're not breaking any game laws, its your right as WA state hunting license holder. Its also a good idea to have a copy of the game regs with you just in case.
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
What were you charged with? Did they work with you when you tried to explain?I've had 3 sherriffs cars arrest me at gunpoint because someone called me and accused me of poaching deer when I was spotlighting for coyotes (it was out of big game season). They still took my gun and didn't get it back for a couple weeks 'cause they couldn't get a WDFW officer to pick up his radio.
I've had success, but I've also had problems...still deciding if it's worth it or not.
This type of thing isn't unheard of. Deputies, Troopers, and City Officers do not get any type of training in WA regarding hunting/fishing enforcement/laws, it is all self taught. Most people know that spotlighting is illegal, and often think if it's illegal to spotlight a deer, then it's illegal to spotlight a coyote.
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 01:31:27 PM
Quote
Most people know that spotlighting is illegal, and often think if it's illegal to spotlight a deer, then it's illegal to spotlight a coyote.
Bigtex, can you clarify the above statement?
Spotlighting a deer is legal, you just can't shoot it, correct? Just sounded to me like you're saying that shining a light on a deer is illegal. :dunno:
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Post by: bigtex on February 12, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
QuoteMost people know that spotlighting is illegal, and often think if it's illegal to spotlight a deer, then it's illegal to spotlight a coyote.
Bigtex, can you clarify the above statement?
Spotlighting a deer is legal, you just can't shoot it, correct? Just sounded to me like you're saying that shining a light on a deer is illegal. :dunno:
In regards to big game you can't possess a spotlight with a weapon (bow and arrow, firearm, etc). There are no requirements in law saying you must have shot. If you just have a spotlight (no weapon) you are not breaking WA law.
Some states however do state any shining on an animal is illegal, doesn't matter if you have a weapon. In WA there must be an associated weapon.
Post by: buckfvr on February 12, 2013, 02:11:37 PM
Post by: Special T on February 12, 2013, 02:18:50 PM
Post by: MadHatter on February 12, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
Post by: bigtex on February 12, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
So in theory when I am out spotlighting for Coyotes with a weapon, and happen to catch a deer in my light I might be committing a crime?
In theory, yes.
Post by: FALFire on February 12, 2013, 05:25:31 PM
We spot light often, and often times, we see deer, we leave them alone, that's not what we are after. I hunt cattle ranches, night time is the best time for success for coyotes around these new born calves. It's all in how you articulate your activity and the totality of the evidence during your contact along with how you handle the situation if contacted by LEO. Read (Bad attitude = Bad ending) :dunno: Ranchers should be contacted prior to a night hunt if you are on private property, a call to the local Sheriff's Office can go along ways towards making you have a successful night and not having to deal with a p'ssd off Game Officer that gets a phone call at 2am to respond to shots fired and bright lights.
Then again.....There are those Officers that will DO ANYTHING to make an arrest. It all comes down to common sense on both sides, Articulate, articulate, articulate and....... have a video/audio recorder going during the contact :tup:
Post by: halfpipe88 on February 12, 2013, 09:10:15 PM
Post by: yote on February 12, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
I use:
http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/lightforce-blitz-240mm-9-5-inch-1-million-cp-handheld-spotlight-sl240/ (http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/lightforce-blitz-240mm-9-5-inch-1-million-cp-handheld-spotlight-sl240/)
Post by: Noiro on February 13, 2013, 08:49:29 AM
I was curious about shooting from a vehicle or the road?
Post by: bobcat on February 13, 2013, 08:54:04 AM
1. Hunting with artificial lights:
Hunting big game with the aid of an artificial light or spotlight is prohibited.
Post by: bearpaw on February 13, 2013, 08:59:58 AM
Post by: Hawgdawg on February 13, 2013, 09:11:22 AM
Contact your local warden and sherriff dept, ask them, they are the ones you will have to deal with. We have been checked by local sherriff deputees, as soon as they saw we were legite they asked us to let them know when we would be doing it again. Depending where you want to hunt, there could also be local ordinances to know about.
:tup: We made a deal with the local fish and feather that we give him a call before our hunt, so he doesn't loose sleep getting the call!
Post by: FALFire on February 13, 2013, 11:18:14 AM
Can anyone post the WA regs about spotlighting? I searched but found nothing about spotlighting. On page 64 of the 2012 WA Hunt Regs I found Small Game and Other. I stated coyote open at night but not Sept-Nov during center fire deer and elk.
I was curious about shooting from a vehicle or the road?
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.450 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.450)
Read Section #4 subsection :d below
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.460)
Post by: madcow41 on February 16, 2013, 04:15:35 PM