Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
I plan on using this for Silvers and steelhead and the 9'8" drift rod is right what I am looking for.
Thanks!
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 18, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 18, 2013, 03:05:18 PM
They are not any of the GL3/2 IMX or GLX. The Steelhead series, is just that, Steelhead series graphite. Must be between GL3 and IMX looking at there pricing.
Post by: Button Nubbs on February 18, 2013, 03:06:23 PM
I'm not well versed in the custom rod arena. I assume I would need to buy a blank and take it to a rod builder? Who would you recommend?
typically you tell them what you want and pay accordingly. good suggestions in this thread: http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/604330/all/Custom_rod_builders.html (http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/604330/all/Custom_rod_builders.html)
lots of custom builders offer warrantys... :dunno:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 18, 2013, 03:13:37 PM
Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 03:21:22 PM
I like custom rods allot. But I buy complete cause if you need a warrenty, you have to rebuild the rod again. Sure Loomis will give you a new blank. But your rod builder is not going to warrenty his service....
They are not any of the GL3/2 IMX or GLX. The Steelhead series, is just that, Steelhead series graphite. Must be between GL3 and IMX looking at there pricing.
Thanks for your insight. I have heard that they use IMX in lower 3/4 and use GL3 in the tip to give it added durability, so it's basically a blend from what Ive heard, but wan't sure.
Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
I'm not well versed in the custom rod arena. I assume I would need to buy a blank and take it to a rod builder? Who would you recommend?
typically you tell them what you want and pay accordingly. good suggestions in this thread: http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/604330/all/Custom_rod_builders.html (http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/604330/all/Custom_rod_builders.html)
lots of custom builders offer warrantys... :dunno:
Thanks for the link! I'll look into this for sure :fishin:
Post by: Thefisherman83 on February 18, 2013, 03:28:25 PM
I like custom rods allot. But I buy complete cause if you need a warrenty, you have to rebuild the rod again. Sure Loomis will give you a new blank. But your rod builder is not going to warrenty his service....
They are not any of the GL3/2 IMX or GLX. The Steelhead series, is just that, Steelhead series graphite. Must be between GL3 and IMX looking at there pricing.
Thanks for your insight. I have heard that they use IMX in lower 3/4 and use GL3 in the tip to give it added durability, so it's basically a blend from what Ive heard, but wan't sure.
You have that backwards, they use the IMX top half for better action and casting and the GL3 lower for power. I have that rod and it is a powerhouse, but the fast action allows you to get away with smaller lead if needed.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 18, 2013, 03:29:25 PM
Post by: Wingin it on February 18, 2013, 03:31:17 PM
Post by: Thefisherman83 on February 18, 2013, 03:37:07 PM
I dont believe you can get any blanks in the Steelhead series anyway.
I dont believe you can get any Loomis blanks, Period.
Post by: steeleywhopper on February 18, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Post by: 87Ford on February 18, 2013, 03:52:43 PM
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 18, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
I have the STR1163C and LOVE IT!! When fishing for steelhead, coho, and pinks, its one of my go-to rods. I own several Lami Cert-pros, and a couple of GL2/GL3's. When going after the above mentioned fish, its deffently one of the rods I have with me. Because its a 9'8", I commonly use it as a float rod..but have also used it as a drifting rod, side drifting, and with spinners. The light action makes casting a dream even with light weight. I had even hooked up with a 27 lbs king when fishing for cohos one day and the rod handled that fish just fine without me ever worrying about breaking the rod.
I noticed that you were looking at the 8-17lbs rod...I would strongly recommend that you concider the 6-12, what you lose in muscle you gain in sensitivity! But it has plenty of backbone to handle the bigger fish, IMO. Then again if your MAIN use is for coho the 8-17 would be just fine, for a good blend of steelhead AND coho, then I would HIGHLY recommend the 6-12.
Either way, its an awesome rod and one of my favs!! :tup:
Here is another good article about the rod by Terry Wiest, and he used the Steelhead series on Steelhead, Kings, and Chum.
http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/GLoomis_Steelhead_Series_part1.html (http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/GLoomis_Steelhead_Series_part1.html)
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 18, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
I don't recall what blank they used (was once told by a Loomis rep) but it was a blend there other rod blanks. G. Loomis made this line to stand out on its own and separate it from the GL's, GLX, and IMX series.
I have the STR1163C and LOVE IT!! When fishing for steelhead, coho, and pinks, its one of my go-to rods. I own several Lami Cert-pros, and a couple of GL2/GL3's. When going after the above mentioned fish, its deffently one of the rods I have with me. Because its a 9'8", I commonly use it as a float rod..but have also used it as a drifting rod, side drifting, and with spinners. The light action makes casting a dream even with light weight. I had even hooked up with a 27 lbs king when fishing for cohos one day and the rod handled that fish just fine without me ever worrying about breaking the rod.
I noticed that you were looking at the 8-17lbs rod...I would strongly recommend that you concider the 6-12, what you lose in muscle you gain in sensitivity! But it has plenty of backbone to handle the bigger fish, IMO. Then again if your MAIN use is for coho the 8-17 would be just fine, for a good blend of steelhead AND coho, then I would HIGHLY recommend the 6-12.
Either way, its an awesome rod and one of my favs!! :tup:
Here is another good article about the rod by Terry Wiest, and he used the Steelhead series on Steelhead, Kings, and Chum.
http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/GLoomis_Steelhead_Series_part1.html (http://www.steelheaduniversity.com/GLoomis_Steelhead_Series_part1.html)
I should also mention that I have now owned this rod for about 18 months now...have hooked Tons of pinks, a good number of Coho's, 3 kings and 20+ steelies with this rod. I have every con finance with it. I am actually thinking of getting another one...maybe the 1044S? Thinking of a shorter spinning rod for side drifting out of a boat.
Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 04:26:09 PM
ML_Hunter: Thanks for recommending the 1163C, I definitely need to think this over because that article you referenced was pretty convincing! If the 6-12 can handle the 27 lb king you hooked, then it should handle any silver, and thus be light enough for those subtle steelhead bites.
I just don't want to be "undergunned", but from the sounds of it the 6-12 has the best combination of sensitivity and power.
Thanks guys and I welcome any other comments/suggestions!
Tight lines :fishin:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 18, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
Post by: rgalanti21 on February 18, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
This pic defines. "UNDERGUNNED". While it may have worked, it was definately too light of rod for this Chum!
I noticed that picture when I read the article...
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 18, 2013, 08:46:10 PM
Terry Wiest in the article I think was really trying to make the rod fail...or push the rod to the point just prior to failure. I would be a bit nervous if my rod was bending like his on that chum.
I use mine as a float rod for coho, and that is the biggest fish I target with this rod. Its the longest rod I own, trust that it'll handle the fish (including the larger Humptulips and OP coho's)...so i figured why not! :chuckle: Its not a King or Chum rod, the 8-17 would be much preferred for the bigger fish.
Post by: Bone_Collector on February 19, 2013, 06:11:41 AM
Now on a side note I have been switching over my work rods from loomis to rainshadow and I am kicking my self for not doing it YEARS ago! I love the rods and they are tough as nails!
B_C
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 19, 2013, 06:17:54 AM
There service was outstanding and always replaced everything.
I then went back to Loomis and never had an issue. That is until I got a sponcership from St Croix. Got a big batch o rods and they were as bad at failing as the RS's.
Back to Loomis and never looked back...They might be owned by Shimano, but they just dont fail!
Post by: Thefisherman83 on February 19, 2013, 06:38:06 AM
One thing to remember with the Loomis warranty is its not free! If you break the rod its still going to cost you to have it fixed! I have had them quote me over $100 to fix a broken tip section! But I guess thats what happens when a small company gets bought out by the corparations!
Now on a side note I have been switching over my work rods from loomis to rainshadow and I am kicking my self for not doing it YEARS ago! I love the rods and they are tough as nails!
B_C
I'm sure Shimano didnt do us any favors, but the replacement fees have risen so much because people abused the warranty. You shouldnt get a free rod if you slam yours in your car door! Gary Loomis' new company has the same $100 replacement fees for the same reasons.
Post by: boneaddict on February 19, 2013, 06:50:57 AM
I ahve seen those striped buggers break more rods than any other fish.
Post by: TheHunt on February 19, 2013, 07:22:56 AM
Post by: Bone_Collector on February 19, 2013, 07:57:29 AM
On top of that ever since shimano bought out loomis they have eliminated their in house guide program. They are part of a big corporation now and it shows. Its left a bad taste in my mouth and to be honest with you I am not real impressed with their product any more!
B_C