Post by: actionshooter on February 22, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC
www.extremefirepower.com (http://www.extremefirepower.com)
Website
Long Standing
Cheaper Than Dirt
www.cheaperthandirt.com (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com)
Long Standing
MidwayUSA
www.midwayusa.com (http://www.midwayusa.com)
Long Standing
Old Grouch's Military Surplus
www.oldgrouch.com (http://www.oldgrouch.com)
2013-01-15
Predator Intelligence
www.predatorarmament.com (http://www.predatorarmament.com)
2013-02-01
LaRue Tactical
www.laruetactical.com (http://www.laruetactical.com)
2013-02-08
Olympic Arms
www.olyarms.com (http://www.olyarms.com)
2013-02-12
Currently applies to New York State only
Templar Custom
www.templarcustom.com (http://www.templarcustom.com)
2013-02-13
Currently applies to New York State only
York Arms
www.yorkarms.com (http://www.yorkarms.com)
Website
2013-02
Currently applies to New York State only
Bullwater Enterprises LLC
www.aandtfirearms.com (http://www.aandtfirearms.com)
2013-02-16
dba A & T Firearms
West Fork Armory
www.westforkarmory.com (http://www.westforkarmory.com)
2013-02-16
Currently applies to New York State only
Smith Enterprise, Inc
www.smithenterprise.com (http://www.smithenterprise.com)
Website
2013-02-17
Currently applies to New York State only
Alex Arms
www.alexarms.com (http://www.alexarms.com)
Website
2013-02-17
OFA Tactical
www.ochsnergroup.com (http://www.ochsnergroup.com)
2013-02-17
Spike's Tactical
www.spikestactical.com (http://www.spikestactical.com)
2013-02-18
Quality Arms Idaho
www.qualityarmsidaho.com (http://www.qualityarmsidaho.com)
Website
2013-02-19
Liberty Suppressors
www.libertycans.net (http://www.libertycans.net)
2013-02-19
Currently applies to New York State only
Doublestar Corp
www.star15.com (http://www.star15.com)
2013-02-19
American Spirit Arms
www.americanspiritarms.com (http://www.americanspiritarms.com)
YouTube
2013-02-19
Tactical Solutions
www.tacticalsol.com (http://www.tacticalsol.com)
Website
2013-02-20
Currently applies to New York State only
Head Down Products, LLC
www.headdownproducts.com (http://www.headdownproducts.com)
2013-02-20
Currently applies to New York State only
Exile Machine
www.exilemachine.net (http://www.exilemachine.net)
Website
2013-02
J&G Sales, Ltd
www.jgsales.com (http://www.jgsales.com)
2013-02-20
Bravo Company USA
www.bravocompanyusa.com (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com)
Website
2013-02-20
ACE LTD.
www.riflestocks.com (http://www.riflestocks.com)
Website
2013-02-20
Barrett
www.barrett.net (http://www.barrett.net)
Website
2013-02-20
Kiss Tactical
www.kisstactical.com (http://www.kisstactical.com)
2013-02-20
NEMO Arms, Inc
www.nemoarms.com (http://www.nemoarms.com)
2013-02-21
Currently applies to New York State only
Top Gun Supply
www.topgunsupply.com (http://www.topgunsupply.com)
2013-02-21
Red Jacket Firearms
www.redjacketfirearms.com (http://www.redjacketfirearms.com)
2013-02-21
Badger Peak
www.badgerpeak.com (http://www.badgerpeak.com)
2013-02-22
Controlled Chaos Arms
www.controlledchaosarms.com (http://www.controlledchaosarms.com)
2013-02-22
Big Horn Armory
www.bighornarmory.com (http://www.bighornarmory.com)
2013-02-22
One Source Tactical
www.onesourcetactical.com (http://www.onesourcetactical.com)
Website
2013-02-22
CMMG
www.cmmginc.com (http://www.cmmginc.com)
2013-02-22
SRT Arms
www.srtarms.com (http://www.srtarms.com)
Website
2013-02-22
Norton Firearms
www.nortonfirearms.com (http://www.nortonfirearms.com)
Website
2013-02-22
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 22, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on February 22, 2013, 11:14:30 PM
Post by: SGTDuffman on February 22, 2013, 11:34:21 PM
To bad cheaper than dirt is price gouging the crap out of people. They won't get another dime for me .
+1. They're doing the right thing standing for gun owners by refusing to sell to state agencies, but are screwing us at the same time by gouging us. They're charging $100 for a single PMAG. They'll never see any of my money again. It'll be going to MidwayUSA or Brownells instead.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 22, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Post by: csaaphill on February 23, 2013, 04:04:14 AM
btu ya gouging is bad might write them?
Post by: snowpack on March 26, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Post by: huntnphool on March 26, 2013, 10:56:06 PM
You can hardly blame stores for getting as much as they can, they have no idea when they will be receiving more inventory.
Just something for you guys to consider the next time you wonder why a Pmag in a store is double the price it was a few months ago. :twocents:
Post by: SGTDuffman on March 27, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
Really, all manufacturers should be boycotting sales to NY Law Enforcement, because Cuomo did not write a provision into the NY SAFE Act exempting police from the provisions. Technically no LE officer in the state of NY can have a pistol with a magazine holding more than 7 rounds (Which is also preposterous because no one makes 7 round magazines for anything except 1911's. Effectively they have banned everything but revolvers and 1911's in NY). NY LE also cannot have their weapons on school property. That's what happens when you run though a crappy bill without ever giving anyone the chance to read it.
Here is a list of companies boycotting sales to states that have imposed limits on the citizenry.
http://www.ncgunblog.com/new-york-boycott/ (http://www.ncgunblog.com/new-york-boycott/)
Here is a story about Cuomo's bill not exempting police.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/17/cuomos-new-gun-law-does-not-exempt-new-york-cops-could-prevent-police-from-responding-to-school-shootings/ (http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/17/cuomos-new-gun-law-does-not-exempt-new-york-cops-could-prevent-police-from-responding-to-school-shootings/)
Post by: washelkhunter on March 27, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
Post by: huntnphool on March 27, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
It's not double. It's $99 now and it was $12 before. What's more, it's not like that most places, just a couple places.Really? Can you tell me where those places are that it's not happening? I could use a couple more Pmags for $12 and some more 5.7x28 ammo for $20/box, and $15 bricks of .22LR :tup:
While you're at it, would you be so kind as to give your opinion on the rest of my observation? I'd like to know where I missed the boat. ;)
Post by: SGTDuffman on March 27, 2013, 02:15:13 PM
Can't help you with the 5.7mm because I've never bought it, so I've never tried tracking down deals for it.
Haven't seen .22 for $15 since before Obama got elected the first time, but that you can get at Cabelas for $23, which is what it cost before Sandy Hook and all this current nonsense. If you're hard up and can't wait, or don't want to check Cabelas regularly, I guess you could go on Gunbroker and get some bricks for $40.
Or you could go to Surplus Ammo and Arms and pay $85 for a brick :yike: or Cheaper Than Dirt and pay $100 for a PMAG :yike:. I'd be weary of any "supplier" that gets priced out of the market by individuals though. ;)
Post by: mkcj on March 27, 2013, 02:25:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on March 27, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
DSGArms, Brownells, MidwayUSA, etc. can all get you a PMAG for prehysteria prices. Of the few I listed I'd try DSG first, they're averaging 10-15 business days.I just checked all those places, not one Pmag in stock, or any of the ammo I mentioned either, which was my point.
You named 3 places yet said "most" are not as I described, I think its the other way around. ;)
Post by: csaaphill on March 28, 2013, 03:34:28 AM
Post by: huntnphool on March 28, 2013, 09:31:35 AM
You asked where you can get PMAGs for $12 and I gave you 3 places, and I told you you wouldn't get them immediately. I also told you I don't know where to find 5.7mm, and where to find .22 ammo, which was none of those first 3 places. I'm not sure what isn't as described.And once again you fail to understand the issue I described in my original post, "I have seen nothing but empty shelves pretty much everywhere I go", the same at Midway, Brownells and DSG so your suggestion is appreciated but also proves my point, "most" actually fit my description better than your "it's not like that most places, just a couple places" ;)
Last time I checked (in Jan) DSG was making the most headway on backorders filling late Dec orders by mid Jan. It may be better or worse now, I don't know. But your order will be filled, and they will cost $12.25/ea. Or you could pay whatever crazy price Cheaper Than Dirt is charging now, and still end up waiting, but that's the nature of ordering anything online. You will have to wait regardless. If you think it's a bargain to pay $100/ea for a mag and wait a week instead of paying $12.25/ea and wait 2 or 3 weeks, then be my guest.
I guess there's a better chance of them being in stock at Cheaper Than Dirt because you'd have to be stupid to pay their prices. So how does that help them? You talked about increasing the price to offset supply issues, how does that work when no one buys because you've priced yourself out of the market? Not only are they still not making money, but they lost money buying product they can't move and are stuck storing inventory they can't sell. That's why places have stock, because people won't pay their prices. Not too many folks dumb enough to pay $85 for a box of .22 or $100 for a magazine. Then again, I guess you'd only need 1 out of 10 people to be that stupid if you charged that much.
I agree its ridiculous to be paying these prices but if someone wants the items "now" they either pay the extra $ or sit and wait what could be months. I just got a call on Monday that some ammo I ordered in December has arrived, I'm limited to 4 boxes after waiting 3+ months. :dunno:
Post by: grundy53 on March 28, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
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Post by: SGTDuffman on March 28, 2013, 09:45:52 AM
It's not double. It's $99 now and it was $12 before. What's more, it's not like that most places, just a couple places.
I was talking about the prices, not the inventory, in response to you saying:
You can hardly blame stores for getting as much as they can, they have no idea when they will be receiving more inventory.
Just something for you guys to consider the next time you wonder why a Pmag in a store is double the price it was a few months ago.
I doubt these other sellers have a much better idea of when they'll be getting inventory when compared to the couple of businesses that have lost their minds on pricing, but their prices remain the same. Most places haven't raised their prices at all, and of those that have, it's been raised a little bit, not to 5-10 times the price of early December.
Post by: actionshooter on March 28, 2013, 11:29:55 AM
I second removing Cheaper than Dirt, they are the worst.
I also nominate adding Allied Armory - The have kept prices reasonable and won't sell restricted items to law enforcement in states with new anti gun laws.
And of course you have to put magpul on there.
Feel free to add to the list.
I agree about Cheaper than Dirt and they won't see any of my money, but they have done a lot of good also, so i guess its a wash??
Post by: grundy53 on March 28, 2013, 11:52:56 AM
I second removing Cheaper than Dirt, they are the worst.
I also nominate adding Allied Armory - The have kept prices reasonable and won't sell restricted items to law enforcement in states with new anti gun laws.
And of course you have to put magpul on there.
Feel free to add to the list.
I agree about Cheaper than Dirt and they won't see any of my money, but they have done a lot of good also, so i guess its a wash??
Not a wash. They threw us under the bus.
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 28, 2013, 12:02:24 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 28, 2013, 12:15:52 PM
You must consider that Magpul will not be producing P-Mags while they are moving and getting set up in a new location. That might cause them to be in even shorter supply...
They had a press release a while back that the move would not slow production.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on March 28, 2013, 12:34:32 PM
You must consider that Magpul will not be producing P-Mags while they are moving and getting set up in a new location. That might cause them to be in even shorter supply...
They had a press release a while back that the move would not slow production.
:tup:
Post by: SGTDuffman on March 28, 2013, 03:24:36 PM
Colt managed to close down their plant to bus their employees to an anti gun meeting as opposition, so at least they're doing things to atone for their past actions. They leveraged their employees as collateral against CT legislators to prevent them from passing laws against "assault weapons". You can find that using the search function for "colt shuts plant".
Post by: snowpack on April 09, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
Bold Ideas (Colt Competition) is leaving Canby, Oregon to go to Texas.
Post by: huntnphool on April 09, 2013, 06:54:09 PM
Post by: snowpack on April 11, 2013, 08:19:02 PM
Post by: csaaphill on April 12, 2013, 01:27:17 AM