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Title: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 26, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
Had some time to start getting some gear ready for this halibut and ling cod season. Does anyone use the huge (250#) mono line for leaders and such, I need to find the right crimping tool for the sleeves and I cannot find it just wondering what you all use !!

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Wonder if we could start some kind of lead melting get together where we could share our molds, something like the BD boys do ?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: Ridgeratt on February 26, 2013, 08:20:39 PM
Have you thought about a wire fence crimper? Not knowing the size of wire your crimping. Check out a farm store for a set.
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Post by: magnus100 on February 26, 2013, 09:08:17 PM
Hey Robodad,
I use 250 spiderwire for sturgeon leader and it ties nicely and you don't need crimps.
Not sure if it would work for your lings  and halibut? Love all your gear and molds.
Gonna go try for some pike on the pende orielle river tomorrow.
Mike
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Post by: slayerofthesea on February 26, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
you guys are running way to heavy leader haha i use 65 pound braided power pro and i have had no problem catching 30- 40 pounders. and yes i am getting ready. I see you dont have any white jigs? They work very well for me.
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Post by: h2ofowlr on February 26, 2013, 09:18:36 PM
Getting ready to kill some brain cells?  That molten lead is good stuff. 
How do those pipe jigs work for you?  I have a crate full of them and haven't tried them.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: slayerofthesea on February 26, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
they work well were i fish at but the white jigs work better and i found if you melt a 1/2 in of lead in the pipe then let it harden then put bbs in the pipe then make a tin foil ball and leave some space from your bbs then top the jig off with lead it works better lings are curious fish. I have caught rock bass on the copper pipe jig with bbs in them. The bass hit them hard.
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 26, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
would noc pliers work?
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 26, 2013, 09:41:24 PM
Have you thought about a wire fence crimper? Not knowing the size of wire your crimping. Check out a farm store for a set.

I went and took a couple pics of what I am looking for, I bought this one but I want to make my own and hopefully improve on it a little bit !!

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Those sleeves appear to be aluminum and are just under an inch long but you get the idea, Its not about the strength of the line (250#) it just helps keep it untangled when fishing deep !!
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: cohoho on February 26, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
Hey man, need some of those 2 pounders...  Maybe borrow your mold for a bit?  Glad you got the good stuff ready to roll as I have been just hockey, hockey and more hockey, all over this coming weekend then free every weekend for now til I turn 70... :yike:
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 26, 2013, 10:35:45 PM
Hey man, need some of those 2 pounders...  Maybe borrow your mold for a bit?  Glad you got the good stuff ready to roll as I have been just hockey, hockey and more hockey, all over this coming weekend then free every weekend for now til I turn 70... :yike:

Thats good cause I hear there are a few derbys coming up !! ........and yep you can borrow it, I made 26 of em today so I won't need any of them for a while !!
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Post by: Hawgdawg on February 26, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Hey man, need some of those 2 pounders...  Maybe borrow your mold for a bit?  Glad you got the good stuff ready to roll as I have been just hockey, hockey and more hockey, all over this coming weekend then free every weekend for now til I turn 70... :yike:

Your my neigbor. if you ever have a spare seat. I am always good for fuel, food, Beer!
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Post by: slayerofthesea on February 26, 2013, 10:44:56 PM
We have done so well with the pipe jigs that I don't use anything else any longer. Check the CA regs for weight info on your lead. I know there use to be a max you could use. Can't remember what it was.


what size pipe do you use? and do you use a ring on the hook and put it on the cotter pin? i havent tryed that way before
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: RB on February 26, 2013, 10:48:04 PM
Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 27, 2013, 07:35:16 AM
Getting ready to kill some brain cells?  That molten lead is good stuff. 
How do those pipe jigs work for you?  I have a crate full of them and haven't tried them.

It is quite surprising how well they actually work, I have been using them for years and my boat don't leave the dock without em !!

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they work well were i fish at but the white jigs work better and i found if you melt a 1/2 in of lead in the pipe then let it harden then put bbs in the pipe then make a tin foil ball and leave some space from your bbs then top the jig off with lead it works better lings are curious fish. I have caught rock bass on the copper pipe jig with bbs in them. The bass hit them hard.

What I do is sweat a collar on the bottom and then 2" piece of pipe and another cap, inside the pipe I put a couple stainless screws one inverted on top of the other and they rattle even if the pipe jig is just swinging back and forth, I tried BB's and they rust really fast !! I'll also be painting some of them a white glow-in-the-dark which works quite well also !!

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We have done so well with the pipe jigs that I don't use anything else any longer. Check the CA regs for weight info on your lead. I know there use to be a max you could use. Can't remember what it was.

I won't make it to Ca so I'm not too worried about the weight, I'll be spending some time in LaPush hopefully I run into you out on the great pond !!

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what size pipe do you use? and do you use a ring on the hook and put it on the cotter pin? i havent tryed that way before

I use 1/2" pipe for the majority if the pipe jigs I make but also 3/4" for a couple used for really fast water !! I also put a #4 swivel on the cotter pin and a #10 snap ring between the swivel and the hook, I also use #16 circle "C" hooks on mine, some folks use large treble hooks which will work as well, I just prefer the Circle "C" hooks and haven't had any trouble hooking fish with them !!

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Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead


Most of the lead I use comes from friends that need something made and I just trade them for half !!
Title: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: sirmissalot on February 27, 2013, 07:47:54 AM
Hopefully I'll see you in lapush this year robodad.

The crimps and pliers you're looking for should be at sportco, look near the tuna section or the line section. I use those same circle hook setups but I just buy them, almost never lose them. I mostly fish pipe jigs but guys get tired of jigging so I usually drop a circle hook setup and just leave it in the rod holder bouncing bottom.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 27, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Hopefully I'll see you in lapush this year robodad.

The crimps and pliers you're looking for should be at sportco, look near the tuna section or the line section. I use those same circle hook setups but I just buy them, almost never lose them. I mostly fish pipe jigs but guys get tired of jigging so I usually drop a circle hook setup and just leave it in the rod holder bouncing bottom.

I will be camping in LaPush the week of May 15-19 and hopefully Cohoho will be coming as well, when I know what site we will be in I'll let you know, I wouldn't mind swapping information with you. Yeah its not easy pounding the bottom with a pipe jig all day but it's too effective to put em away !! I'll have a look at Sportco if I ever get over that way, I did see some crimpers online but they are the type you bolt to a table and sort of resemble bolt cutters but they are $200+ so maybe buying the ones already made is a better deal after all !!
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Post by: Cap.Silver on February 27, 2013, 08:14:31 AM
Maybe you could use bolt cutters from Harbor Freight - grind channels into the cutter blades big enough to crimp your stuff .The blade is big enough that you could even have 2-3 sizes in one . Another option is to cut (grind) the channel into the vise upper jaw - they could also be replaced ,right ? I'd say 10-15 minutes with grinder and you have crimping vise tool  :tup:. Got any more problems that need to be solved  :chuckle:
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 27, 2013, 08:28:35 AM
I like your style   :tup: :tup: Good luck this season  :yeah:
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Post by: slayerofthesea on February 27, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
thanks i have used 3/8 so maybe i will up the tube size and start using swivels and rings.
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Post by: Jingles on February 27, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead

If interested and if you ever get to the Methow valley I have a 5 gallon bucket filled with lead tire weights.
Pm Me if interested
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: cohoho on February 27, 2013, 06:21:50 PM

I will be camping in LaPush the week of May 15-19 and hopefully Cohoho will be coming as well, when I know what site we will be in I'll let you know, I wouldn't mind swapping information with you. Yeah its not easy pounding the bottom with a pipe jig all day but it's too effective to put em away !! I'll have a look at Sportco if I ever get over that way, I did see some crimpers online but they are the type you bolt to a table and sort of resemble bolt cutters but they are $200+ so maybe buying the ones already made is a better deal after all !!

Of course my friend, of course.  Just need to figure out one or both boats...  either way, will be ready to roll... 
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Post by: 2labs on February 27, 2013, 06:48:08 PM
Hey what happens in La Push. Stays in La Push! I will also be there. Just look for two guys filleting and four guys watching. Lets have a beer their .
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Post by: RB on February 27, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead

If interested and if you ever get to the Methow valley I have a 5 gallon bucket filled with lead tire weights.
Pm Me if interested

Thanks don't think I will be that direction for a long time though
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 27, 2013, 07:03:43 PM
Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead

If interested and if you ever get to the Methow valley I have a 5 gallon bucket filled with lead tire weights.
Pm Me if interested

Thanks don't think I will be that direction for a long time though

The bucket of lead is no longer available but here is an ad that is close to you and would get you started on your gear !! I'd get some but its too far for me !!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/spo/3645649887.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/spo/3645649887.html)
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on February 27, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
Hey what happens in La Push. Stays in La Push! I will also be there. Just look for two guys filleting and four guys watching. Lets have a beer their .

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: RB on February 27, 2013, 07:50:23 PM
Where do you get your lead? I have a mold for downrigger balls but do not know where to get clean lead

Holy cow how did I miss that? hahaha thanks I am on it

If interested and if you ever get to the Methow valley I have a 5 gallon bucket filled with lead tire weights.
Pm Me if interested

Thanks don't think I will be that direction for a long time though

The bucket of lead is no longer available but here is an ad that is close to you and would get you started on your gear !! I'd get some but its too far for me !!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/spo/3645649887.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/spo/3645649887.html)
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: Jingles on February 27, 2013, 08:11:35 PM
As mentioned above the bucket of tire weights has been spoken for. will start collecting a second bucket full
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on March 01, 2013, 08:00:58 AM
As mentioned above the bucket of tire weights has been spoken for. will start collecting a second bucket full

Do you do any fishing or need any big cannon balls 1lb 2lb 3lb or even 12oz, or maybe if you get over here to the coast I can take you out for some fishin ?
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Post by: fishseeker on March 01, 2013, 09:54:37 AM
I have about 300lbs(maybe more) of pure Plumbers lead I cleaned up and made into ingots. 2-3lbs each and some 5lb diving weights that I will sell for $1.00 lb. this is pure clean lead. I was a plumber for 35 years and bustted up CI pipe to get the lead rings out. PM me if interested. John
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Post by: slayerofthesea on March 01, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
or better yet go to a junk yard or recycle place and buy lead for 40 to 60 cents a pound heat it up and get all the stuff off the top with a spoon  and you have clean lead. i use a kitchen stove with a pan in the shop to melt lead.
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Post by: fishseeker on March 01, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
True but you loose some cleaning it. I know having been doing it for years. just thowing it out there :hello:
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Post by: slayerofthesea on March 01, 2013, 06:51:58 PM
yeah for sure. iif some has no clue how to clean it  or dosent have the time yeah thats a good deal.
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Post by: fishseeker on March 02, 2013, 06:46:48 AM
or better yet go to a junk yard or recycle place and buy lead for 40 to 60 cents a pound heat it up and get all the stuff off the top with a spoon  and you have clean lead. i use a kitchen stove with a pan in the shop to melt lead.
I would never melt lead indoors without proper ventilation. That's asking for trouble fast! I only Burn outdoors on a good day. Or in the garage with a large fan at my back. I have seen lead poisoning affects and it ain't pretty.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: robodad on March 02, 2013, 08:08:43 AM
or better yet go to a junk yard or recycle place and buy lead for 40 to 60 cents a pound heat it up and get all the stuff off the top with a spoon  and you have clean lead. i use a kitchen stove with a pan in the shop to melt lead.
I would never melt lead indoors without proper ventilation. That's asking for trouble fast! I only Burn outdoors on a good day. Or in the garage with a large fan at my back. I have seen lead poisoning affects and it ain't pretty.

I have been melting lead indoors for years and am just curious what I should be looking for in symptoms of lead poisoning ? Last thing I need is to pass out in my pot !!
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Post by: slayerofthesea on March 02, 2013, 09:33:42 AM
my stove is right next to the door and i open the windows and run a fun i have been doing it for along time and wont do it without having good air flow.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: fishseeker on March 02, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
or better yet go to a junk yard or recycle place and buy lead for 40 to 60 cents a pound heat it up and get all the stuff off the top with a spoon  and you have clean lead. i use a kitchen stove with a pan in the shop to melt lead.
I would never melt lead indoors without proper ventilation. That's asking for trouble fast! I only Burn outdoors on a good day. Or in the garage with a large fan at my back. I have seen lead poisoning affects and it ain't pretty.

I have been melting lead indoors for years and am just curious what I should be looking for in symptoms of lead poisoning ? Last thing I need is to pass out in my pot !!
Best tohave your Doc. check the blood levels when you get a phisycal. Just tell him your concerns. Don't think you need to worry about passing out. But just be aware of contact with lead. And wear gloves when prolonged handleing it.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: fishseeker on March 02, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
My Brother in law work at a steel place spraying Red Lead Primer paint before it was baned. He passed on lead poisoning to my sister via clothing. She was pregnant at the time. Her Twins were born with lung defects that they allmost didn't survive. Whole family had to be checked for several years. They didn't have a clue. She died of cancer, any connection? Nobody knows or ain't saying. Do what you want, but I like to error on the side of caution.
Title: Re: Getting ready..........anyone ??
Post by: slayerofthesea on March 02, 2013, 11:23:40 AM
i just had my blood checked a few weeks ago. im good to go
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