Post by: pd on March 01, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020467792_wolfmanagementxml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020467792_wolfmanagementxml.html)
This article originally came from the Wenatchee World. I understand from this article that WDFW expects breeding pairs of wolves to reach the "SW region" (which includes the Olympic Peninsula) in the next year or two (that would mean 2014 or 2015). If so, then we should all be prepared for breeding wolves throughout the state in short order.
The healthy populations of Roosevelt elk on the Olympic peninsula should be able to hold their own, but I guess that the weakened herds in SW Washington will get hit hard. Thus, a solution to the disease?
Post by: Mudman on March 01, 2013, 10:46:03 PM
Post by: elk247 on March 01, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
Post by: kentrek on March 01, 2013, 10:55:15 PM
wolfs will kill them ya..but it wont stop more hoof rot from happening
wolfs+hoof rot = no hunting...at least for the some
Post by: Mudman on March 02, 2013, 12:14:11 AM
Post by: HookedOnQuack on March 02, 2013, 12:22:39 AM
Post by: madmack76 on March 02, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
Post by: cem3434 on March 02, 2013, 01:43:26 AM
i have seen pics from the loggers that work in and around Hancock in Eatonville that have seen lone wolves roaming thru for at least the last 2 years
I have a very creditable friend that has seen a lone wolf in the same area.
Post by: cem3434 on March 02, 2013, 01:44:43 AM
I have seen wolves in randle off the 23 road in 2010 and in 2011, me and my dad saw them and reported them, of course we were blown off and in 2012 we saw them in the Margret area, they are here already, and wont take long to take over. There is a reason they were exterminated before. Its just that with all our fancy technology we cant figure it out, go figure.
Until WDFW confirms wolves in the area, they are just big coyotes. Shoot them all!
Post by: Mudman on March 02, 2013, 07:44:46 AM
Post by: HookedOnQuack on March 02, 2013, 09:25:04 AM
the first time he reported it to WDFW they wouldnt even come and look at the tracks or his pictures and then last summer when he saw one off Scott Turner Rd they told him it just looked like a big coyote! :bdid:I have seen wolves in randle off the 23 road in 2010 and in 2011, me and my dad saw them and reported them, of course we were blown off and in 2012 we saw them in the Margret area, they are here already, and wont take long to take over. There is a reason they were exterminated before. Its just that with all our fancy technology we cant figure it out, go figure.
Until WDFW confirms wolves in the area, they are just big coyotes. Shoot them all!
Post by: Curly on March 02, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
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What the Clean Air Washington Act does
Reduces emissions from slash burning through a phased approach, based on 1985-89 averages:
20 percent by the year 1995; and 50 percent by the year 2001.
Directs DNR to develop and implement a plan to achieve the reductions.
Declares that the emission reduction requirements apply to all forest land (including federal land) in Washington.
Directs DNR to encourage alternative disposal methods in the following priority:
production of less slash;
better use of slash;
disposal without burning; and slash burning.
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/publications/fa9214.pdf
It just seems to me that clear cuts used to be burned after logging and now they are sprayed with chemicals to kill weeds. Just seems like adding chemicals to the environment would cause negative effects.......maybe it allows the bacteria to remain in the soil. :dunno:
Post by: bearpaw on March 02, 2013, 11:30:43 AM
I am not trying to be flippant here, so please don't flame me. (From 3/1/2013 Seattle Times)
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020467792_wolfmanagementxml.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020467792_wolfmanagementxml.html)
This article originally came from the Wenatchee World. I understand from this article that WDFW expects breeding pairs of wolves to reach the "SW region" (which includes the Olympic Peninsula) in the next year or two (that would mean 2014 or 2015). If so, then we should all be prepared for breeding wolves throughout the state in short order.
The healthy populations of Roosevelt elk on the Olympic peninsula should be able to hold their own, but I guess that the weakened herds in SW Washington will get hit hard. Thus, a solution to the disease?
This thought pattern is partially correct and partially wrong!
Yes the wolves will eat the weakest (easiest) elk first, then they eat youngest and oldest (easiest) elk next, then when the wolves are done with the young and old they eat the healthy elk. When the healthy elk are reduced in numbers and too hard to hunt the wolves will start eating anything else there or move to another area. After all they are wolves and they must eat.
The same pattern of decimation will occur in the Oympics, there is no reason to think the depletion of elk will be any different from any other Park or Wilderness area that wolves have over taken. Once the Park has been decimated the wolves will be forced to enter surrounding areas, they have to eat.
Post by: buckfvr on March 02, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
Post by: kentrek on March 02, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
why isnt the peta/animal people trying to help out ? seems like solving this would be right up there ally..really shows how much they care for the humane treatment of animals..esp if its the fault of man
Post by: HuntNFish on March 03, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Post by: Mudman on March 03, 2013, 07:04:17 PM
Post by: AspenBud on March 04, 2013, 07:20:09 AM
My bet is first we'll see a major drop in elk and deer populations, then the wolves will starve and/or be shot, and from there on you can expect far fewer deer and elk.
It will get worse before it gets "better," but better simply means balance will establish itself. Doesn't do big game hunters or big game in general any good.
The ship is sailing.
Post by: buckfvr on March 04, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
If we loose as many animals here as they did in Idaho, there wont be any to be found here.................