Post by: DRDANTDC on March 02, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Post by: lewy on March 20, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 20, 2013, 08:07:05 AM
Does anyone know of any pack goat rentals in Washington?
You could contact these guys and see if they know of anyone.
http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/ (http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/)
I've never seen anyone who does. Actionshooter or AlpineGus might know of someone also.
Post by: MLHSN on March 26, 2013, 08:43:47 PM
I remember reading that you are not suppose to go faster then 30-40 min. per mile with llamas. That's a little slow for me. I think I might get kind of impatient. I was wondering what a reasonable pace is like for pack goats? How far can they go in a day?
Post by: jackelope on March 26, 2013, 08:54:35 PM
Post by: MLHSN on March 26, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 26, 2013, 09:06:12 PM
Is the 5-10 miles loaded with gear? I could handle 5-10 miles on the way out with game meat. But I could get impatient on the way in going 5 miles with no weight. I'm just curious. Trying to figure out the logistics. What speed do you think they go?
They have about the same MPH as your average hiker, that was a small problem for me. I tend to be a fast hiker. If you keep the load to about 30# and the goats are in shape I have done over 12 miles in a day. If you are impatient the goats aren't for you. 10 miles with the goats loaded 45+, 10 miles is a LONG way.
Goats are great, but they do have limitations.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 26, 2013, 09:07:13 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 26, 2013, 09:07:56 PM
Post by: MLHSN on March 26, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
I've seen a few threads of people who hike with them and I've always been curious.
Post by: NoImpactNoIdea on March 26, 2013, 10:19:07 PM
I'd be interested in hiking with someone who has pack goats for a day or two(I'll carry my own gear). I'm just curious what it's like having goats along. If anyone is in central WA with pack goats and doesn't mind a tag-along for a day this June/July let me know.
I've seen a few threads of people who hike with them and I've always been curious.
This is what I was thinking. It seems more like you would need a guide with goats...or shepard or whatever the correct term is. I dont know that I would feel comfortable leaving them tied to a tree while I was off hunting. I would definately get the extra insurance on that rental!!
Post by: timberghost72 on March 27, 2013, 06:21:32 PM
I'd be interested in hiking with someone who has pack goats for a day or two(I'll carry my own gear). I'm just curious what it's like having goats along. If anyone is in central WA with pack goats and doesn't mind a tag-along for a day this June/July let me know.
I've seen a few threads of people who hike with them and I've always been curious.
Thats a good idea. My wife and I have been talking about getting some goats for about a year now and have been reading up on them but a trip out with them would be a good idea. There are some good books out there to learn up on them. My daughter is 4 so getting her into 4H and backpacking now would be fun. Definately be nice on a backcountry hunt too since I can't carry more than 50 lbs.
Jackalope has a good website there. Here are a couple more if interested.
http://www.highuintapackgoats.com/ (http://www.highuintapackgoats.com/)
http://home.comcast.net/~edelweissacres/ (http://home.comcast.net/~edelweissacres/)
Post by: actionshooter on March 27, 2013, 09:26:40 PM
I'd be interested in hiking with someone who has pack goats for a day or two(I'll carry my own gear). I'm just curious what it's like having goats along. If anyone is in central WA with pack goats and doesn't mind a tag-along for a day this June/July let me know.
I've seen a few threads of people who hike with them and I've always been curious.
Thats a good idea. My wife and I have been talking about getting some goats for about a year now and have been reading up on them but a trip out with them would be a good idea. There are some good books out there to learn up on them. My daughter is 4 so getting her into 4H and backpacking now would be fun. Definately be nice on a backcountry hunt too since I can't carry more than 50 lbs.
Jackalope has a good website there. Here are a couple more if interested.
http://www.highuintapackgoats.com/ (http://www.highuintapackgoats.com/)
http://home.comcast.net/~edelweissacres/ (http://home.comcast.net/~edelweissacres/)
Your 2nd link, edelweissacres, is a great resource, Donna (the owner) does a great class on goat health and pretty much anything you would need to get started.
They are out of Olympia, near Cabelas.
I would recommend that one for anyone thinking about getting into goats.
Post by: acnewman55 on April 11, 2013, 04:11:33 PM
Is the 5-10 miles loaded with gear? I could handle 5-10 miles on the way out with game meat. But I could get impatient on the way in going 5 miles with no weight. I'm just curious. Trying to figure out the logistics. What speed do you think they go?
Could you pack the pack-goats in on pack-mules to cut down on time spent hiking in? :chuckle:
Post by: MLHSN on April 11, 2013, 04:21:22 PM
Is the 5-10 miles loaded with gear? I could handle 5-10 miles on the way out with game meat. But I could get impatient on the way in going 5 miles with no weight. I'm just curious. Trying to figure out the logistics. What speed do you think they go?
Could you pack the pack-goats in on pack-mules to cut down on time spent hiking in? :chuckle:
That way, you can ride the mule out and put the meat on the packgoat.
Post by: acnewman55 on April 11, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
Is the 5-10 miles loaded with gear? I could handle 5-10 miles on the way out with game meat. But I could get impatient on the way in going 5 miles with no weight. I'm just curious. Trying to figure out the logistics. What speed do you think they go?
Could you pack the pack-goats in on pack-mules to cut down on time spent hiking in? :chuckle:
That way, you can ride the mule out and put the meat on the packgoat.
Or if the hunt doesn't go your way you can chop up the mule and pack it out on the goats. That way the hunters you pass on the hike out won't know your shame.
Post by: RG on April 11, 2013, 05:26:35 PM
Is the 5-10 miles loaded with gear? I could handle 5-10 miles on the way out with game meat. But I could get impatient on the way in going 5 miles with no weight. I'm just curious. Trying to figure out the logistics. What speed do you think they go?
Could you pack the pack-goats in on pack-mules to cut down on time spent hiking in? :chuckle:
That way, you can ride the mule out and put the meat on the packgoat.
Or if the hunt doesn't go your way you can chop up the mule and pack it out on the goats. That way the hunters you pass on the hike out won't know your shame.
Eat the goats and ride the mule.
Post by: BenC567 on August 31, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
Anyone with a pack goat willing to let me rent their goat? I am a former horseback guide and have worked with goats but never packed with them.
Thanks,
Ben
Post by: RG on August 31, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 31, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 31, 2013, 07:04:45 PM
I wouldn't admit the former horseback guide part on a goat rental thread. Goats? I guess you can roast them up over the fire if you run out of food since they don't pack much.
About 50 pounds a piece. How much do you need. They'll go places no horse or mule will go.
Post by: lagnar on August 31, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
-honest officer I was just pushing that sheep thru the fence...
-if you string a few goats up in the high country, isn't that considered "Baiting" for bears?
Just get one mule.
Post by: BenC567 on August 31, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
Mules don't fit in the bed of my truck.
Post by: snowpack on August 31, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 31, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/
Post by: RG on August 31, 2013, 09:54:09 PM
my tent weighs 50 pounds and I can still take the rest of my gear and eat steak. I don't have to be embarrassed when people pass me on the trail. Really I don't care if you pack goats, I just can't help myself. Of course guys I ride with call llamas Peruvian Camels too. Whatever gets you there!I wouldn't admit the former horseback guide part on a goat rental thread. Goats? I guess you can roast them up over the fire if you run out of food since they don't pack much.
About 50 pounds a piece. How much do you need. They'll go places no horse or mule will go.
Post by: jackelope on August 31, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
my tent weighs 50 pounds and I can still take the rest of my gear and eat steak. I don't have to be embarrassed when people pass me on the trail. Really I don't care if you pack goats, I just can't help myself. Of course guys I ride with call llamas Peruvian Camels too. Whatever gets you there!I wouldn't admit the former horseback guide part on a goat rental thread. Goats? I guess you can roast them up over the fire if you run out of food since they don't pack much.
About 50 pounds a piece. How much do you need. They'll go places no horse or mule will go.
Ok. My tent weighs 3 pounds. That's why I was wondering. I don't pack goats. I also don't know what anyone would have to be embarrassed about.
Post by: snowpack on August 31, 2013, 10:18:28 PM
Post by: Cougar125 on August 31, 2013, 10:53:41 PM
Post by: BenC567 on August 31, 2013, 11:16:03 PM
Post by: RG on September 01, 2013, 07:00:34 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on September 01, 2013, 07:56:20 AM
Post by: 75johndeere on October 30, 2013, 07:10:35 PM
Post by: acnewman55 on October 31, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
There is nothing embarrassing about using pack goats... Unless it are using them for other recreational activities after the hunt... To each their own.
:chuckle:
Post by: vandeman17 on October 31, 2013, 03:27:52 PM
Post by: RadSav on October 31, 2013, 04:10:34 PM
What about those fainting goats? Then if the hunting is slow you can sneak up on them, pretend to shoot and yell "BANG" and when they fall over, you will feel like you killed something. :chuckle:
That would be awesome for predator calling bear in the back country. Get a bears attention from a distance. Blow on the predator call and have the goat fall over. What bear could resist that :chuckle: Although, how many times during a five mile hike do you think they would get spooked and fall over in the trail? :dunno: Might take a while to get where you are going.
Post by: vandeman17 on October 31, 2013, 04:28:57 PM
What about those fainting goats? Then if the hunting is slow you can sneak up on them, pretend to shoot and yell "BANG" and when they fall over, you will feel like you killed something. :chuckle:
That would be awesome for predator calling bear in the back country. Get a bears attention from a distance. Blow on the predator call and have the goat fall over. What bear could resist that :chuckle: Although, how many times during a five mile hike do you think they would get spooked and fall over in the trail? :dunno: Might take a while to get where you are going.
Another great idea. I don't think it could be considered baiting if the animal is still alive. :chuckle: I have always said that if I get some land I will buy a few of those goats. If I am having a bad day I would just scare one and it would make me smile every time.
Post by: MuleySniper on October 31, 2013, 04:35:23 PM
MS
Post by: actionshooter on October 31, 2013, 06:08:29 PM
50# is pushing it for a pack goat... It all looks good on paper but you need 4 or 5 of those suckers to make it worth it. My dad had three... You need to use them often to keep them in shape. If it's something you plan to use once or twice a year it's not worth it IMO.I agree, I always have tried to run 4..... I have had goats that will do 50# but I always try to keep them at 40# and less unless its a short distance.
MS
Post by: KFhunter on October 31, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
What about those fainting goats? Then if the hunting is slow you can sneak up on them, pretend to shoot and yell "BANG" and when they fall over, you will feel like you killed something. :chuckle:
That would be awesome for predator calling bear in the back country. Get a bears attention from a distance. Blow on the predator call and have the goat fall over. What bear could resist that :chuckle: Although, how many times during a five mile hike do you think they would get spooked and fall over in the trail? :dunno: Might take a while to get where you are going.
blindfold them until you get where your going? :chuckle:
Post by: MLHSN on October 31, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
Post by: actionshooter on October 31, 2013, 10:16:43 PM
How ya doing this season?? Finding any critters?
Post by: MLHSN on October 31, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
But I did learn quite a bit. I got into quite a few elk. It was crazy listening to them bugle all around me. Quite frustrating blowing animal after animal out of the county.
I tell you what though, I learned quite a bit for my first year hunting. I'm confident knowing what I know now that that I can get an animal down next year.
That's part of the reason I'm even more curious about pack goats. I was about 9 mi. in at full draw on one elk. I hesitated because it looked like it was going to turn for a better shot. Instead of turning, it bombed out. I blue the whole bunch over into the next basin. That basin was the one I originally planned to hunt. I sat down for an hour, thought about it, and had to come to the hard conclusion that I'd kill myself trying to pack an elk out of that basin. So I moved on.
I don't know jack about horses so I considered goats for a chance of getting an elk a little far back.
I would use them a good portion of the year. I've got little kids so it would be nice to pack in some more gear for them.
Post by: actionshooter on October 31, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
Post by: MLHSN on October 31, 2013, 10:45:09 PM