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Other Hunting => Waterfowl => Topic started by: SnowDog on March 04, 2013, 06:25:02 PM
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I looked at the regs and did not find anything prohibiting concealed carry while waterfowl hunting. I just got my CPL and plan to pack my Glock when I am out next year in areas where there are some "tweakers".
Also looking for recommendations on shoulder holsters that work under waders.
Cheers!
SD
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Galco Miami Classic II Shoulder System has to be one of the best out there for about $160.
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I heard a story once about a man that had his butt kicked as high as his shoulders. He too has to wear his waders around his shoulders. :)
shoulder holsters that work under waders.
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If you are hunting on a federal wildlife refuge, you cannot carry a handgun, they are posted.
There are WDFW areas that are posted as well.
My son got stopped and they let him go lock it in his truck, instead of busting him and taking his weapon.
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If you are hunting on a federal wildlife refuge, you cannot carry a handgun, they are posted.
There are WDFW areas that are posted as well.
My son got stopped and they let him go lock it in his truck, instead of busting him and taking his weapon.
sorry I do not think that is true.
http://www.fws.gov/littlependoreille/2010hunting.pdf (http://www.fws.gov/littlependoreille/2010hunting.pdf)
I Hunt the Little Penn every year for turkey and I open carry. I have been checked by federal and state officers and not one has ever said anything about my handgun.
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I looked at the regs and did not find anything prohibiting concealed carry while waterfowl hunting. I just got my CPL and plan to pack my Glock when I am out next year in areas where there are some "tweakers".
Also looking for recommendations on shoulder holsters that work under waders.
Cheers!
SD
You can carry a handgun in any fashion you want for self defense. Open carry or CC. On some state areas like the Samish Unit in Skagit County you will see a sign in the parking lot which reads.
No rifles
No Handguns.
That sign and any like it are illegal. No agency, city ,county can pass gun laws stricter than those set out by the state legislature . It is called Preemption.
The sign should read no discharge of rifles or handguns except for self defense.
This has been covered on several threads as late as last week.
You will find that most federal lands follow the laws of the state in which they are in.
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No mention of a Handgun restriction here either.
http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2011-conboy-lake.pdf (http://www.fws.gov/mcriver/documents/regulations/2011-conboy-lake.pdf)
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If you are hunting on a federal wildlife refuge, you cannot carry a handgun, they are posted.
There are WDFW areas that are posted as well.
My son got stopped and they let him go lock it in his truck, instead of busting him and taking his weapon.
Thats an old law. In about 2010/11 Congress removed the restriction for carrying/possessing firearms on lands owned by the US Fish and Wildlife Service and National Park Service.
The federal law now adopts the state law.
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If you are hunting on a federal wildlife refuge, you cannot carry a handgun, they are posted.
There are WDFW areas that are posted as well.
My son got stopped and they let him go lock it in his truck, instead of busting him and taking his weapon.
Thats an old law. In about 2010/11 Congress removed the restriction for carrying/possessing firearms on lands owned by the US Fish and Wildlife Service and National Park Service.
Yes that is correct except you still cannot carry in federal buildings which are located inside the Federal lands.
6 Question: Can I carry in a National Park/National Wildlife Refuge?
Answer: Yes on February 22, 2010. The law was struck down and then passed again and does not take effect till February 22, 2010. When the law goes into effect if you can legally carry a concealed firearm in the state the National Park/National Wildlife Refuge is located in you are legal to carry in NP’s/ NWMA’s in that state. If you can not legally carry concealed in the state you are in then you can not carry in the NP’s/NWMA’s in that
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state. You can not carry into any federally owned buildings in National Parks/National Wildlife Refuges as other federal laws ban the carrying of firearms in federal buildings.
Note: National Monuments, National Preserves, National Historic Sites/Parks, National Rivers, National Memorials, National Recreation Areas and National Seashores all fall under the National Park Service which the Department of Interior operates. This means all these places listed allow carry there if you can legally carry in the state the above mentioned are located. Do be aware that all buildings used for official business are off limits. See 18 USC Sec 930 below. Federal Buildings must be posted or you must be informed they are a federal building.
18 USC Sec. 930 01/03/2007
The federal law now adopts the state law.
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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Sounds like a reall mess to sort out. Guess I'll need to give WDFW a call to clarify.
Cheers!
SD
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
Nope
It is a public forum info found here is worth exactly what you pay for it.
So if you do not like the answer look it up for yourself.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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Actually, you are the one that is wrong.
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Why in the world would you need a handgun for self defense from tweakers when you are holding a 12 guage in your hands? :dunno:
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I had a conversation with a game warden in the skagit valley about the no rifles or pistols. I asked him about huntign with a savage model 24 f 22lr 20 ga and about the CC pistol thing. His responce was this. Don't have rifle ammo on you, and do SHOOT your pistol. That rule banning those items is for safty and to reduce target shooting in those areas. :twocents: Hope that helps.
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I had a conversation with a game warden in the skagit valley about the no rifles or pistols. I asked him about huntign with a savage model 24 f 22lr 20 ga and about the CC pistol thing. His responce was this. Don't have rifle ammo on you, and do SHOOT your pistol. That rule banning those items is for safty and to reduce target shooting in those areas. :twocents: Hope that helps.
Exactly
The signs should read No discharge of Rifles or Hanguns or No Target Shooting. The state knows it they just do not care because no one calls them on it.
There are people who would ague that you could carry a rifle for self defense. I am not one of those people. State gun laws do not specify what firearm you can carry for self defense.
I am not sure where he gets the ammo thing because I know of no law that says you cannot have rifle ammo. There are some special restrictions for fir island.
Any how who wants to carry a rifle? That is another day and another thread.
carry on :tup: :twocents:
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Fir Island is in a firearms restricted area. :twocents: Don't think 22lr applies tho.
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Why in the world would you need a handgun for self defense from tweakers when you are holding a 12 guage in your hands? :dunno:
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Maybe the area has a shell restriction and when your shotty is empty from blasting ducks you got no rounds left?
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because he can, and thats all the reason any american citizen should ever need
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because he can, and thats all the reason any american citizen should ever need
Nice!
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Why in the world would you need a handgun for self defense from tweakers when you are holding a 12 guage in your hands? :dunno:
:yeah:
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because he can, and thats all the reason any american citizen should ever need
I was asking a question based on rationality and logic. It really had nothing to do with Constitutionality of any form.
Whatever floats your boat man.
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" I say tweeker, let me put down my shotgun while I draw my much smaller and less intimidating pistol"
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:yeah::chuckle:, but, exactly.
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" I say tweeker, let me put down my shotgun while I draw my much smaller and less intimidating pistol"
Personally if the area I wanted to hunt was known for tweakers, I would be looking for another place to hunt if possible. If there were no other viable places to hunt within a reasonable distance though I would certainly carry a handgun.
If I ended up in a situation where I had to fire on an attacker, you can bet I would use the shotgun first. I don't have a lot of confidence that 3 shots of #4 steel shot would be all that effective against a person, or that I would be able to reload a shotgun if I was being attacked though. My shotgun also tends to jam or mis-feed far more often than my handgun. Having a handgun as a backup weapon doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me. :twocents:
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I don't have a lot of confidence that 3 shots of #4 steel shot would be all that effective against a person,
If you can't get the job done with three rounds of #4 steel, I doubt the handgun is going to be of any appreciable help.
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Well this is how I view it.
I get up early, I get to the parking lots early. Many times I am the only person around for some time. My shogun is not loaded because it is hours before shooting time. My handgun is always loaded on my hip.
I unload my gear and dog and head out to a spot. You never know what or who is around. Some guy wants your truck, your shotgun, your wallet.
Just read any paper or watch the news. You will get all the justification anyone needs to carry.
I load my shotgun minutes before shooting time and unload as soon as I am finished hunting. When I reach my rig all I have is my handgun to depend on.
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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Actually, you are the one that is wrong.
If you think you can carry anytime you hunt in Washington except a federal building you are are the ont that is wrong. Plenty of places you do not have the right to carry but do your own research so you dont end up in jail.
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:yeah: I'd like to what the exact rules are also.
That said, I simply can't imagine being in a situation while hunting where I would not feel safe with only a shotgun.
If I were in that situation, I see two alternatives:
1)find a new place to hunt, or
2) carry a handgun if I feel the need, even if the rules are fuzzy
I've never been frisked by a wildlife agent. Does this happen?
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My point is this. OP asked can he carry while waterfowl hunting? YES
Someone else posted you could not carry on a Wildlife Refuge. Not True
Game laws do not override state Carry Laws.
If you want an attorney than you are asking in the wrong place.
So if someone thinks this is not true than lets see a cite.
I posted two cites from two different refuges.
I like to learn new stuff, lets see it.
The questions of the OP have been ansewed. Maybe we need another thread?
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Game laws do not override state Carry Laws.
They certainly can. As you'll recall, it was only a few years ago that you could not carry a firearm while you were bow hunting. Some states still have that law.
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And that was corrected because 2 state laws contradicted themselves. :twocents:
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Game laws do not override state Carry Laws.
They certainly can. As you'll recall, it was only a few years ago that you could not carry a firearm while you were bow hunting. Some states still have that law.
Yep and they were forced to change it because Game laws cannot overide State carry laws.
I did make some assumtions here.
1. That we were talking about washington State.
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What happens when you find the tweakers in your truck?
Are you going to draw on them and kill them?
:dunno:
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What happens when you find the tweakers in your truck?
Are you going to draw on them and kill them?
:dunno:
kind of a cynical question let me ask you what would you do if some tweekers are trying to jack your stuff out in the wilderness no cops around?wait for them to get done?
I wasn't intended to be cynical, I think it is a fair question.
A gun is of no value in a confrontation with a person unless you intend to kill them.
So same question for you, are you willing to kill someone for breaking into your rig?
It isn't critical or cynical, I am curious though how you would handle a car theft situation?
:dunno:
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If the answer is " with deadly force" i would not suggest saying it. WA does not allow deadly force in the case of protection or loss of property.
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learning the ins and outs of the gun club. g1587729#msg1587729 date=1362800777]
If the answer is " with deadly force" i would not suggest saying it. WA does not allow deadly force in the case of protection or loss of property.
[/quote]so could i shoot them in the buttock
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What happens when you find the tweakers in your truck?
Are you going to draw on them and kill them?
:dunno:
kind of a cynical question let me ask you what would you do if some tweekers are trying to jack your stuff out in the wilderness no cops around?wait for them to get done?
I wasn't intended to be cynical, I think it is a fair question.
A gun is of no value in a confrontation with a person unless you intend to kill them.
So same question for you, are you willing to kill someone for breaking into your rig?
It isn't critical or cynical, I am curious though how you would handle a car theft situation?
:dunno:
excellent question.
are your material possessions worth someone's life?
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What happens when you find the tweakers in your truck?
Are you going to draw on them and kill them?
:dunno:
kind of a cynical question let me ask you what would you do if some tweekers are trying to jack your stuff out in the wilderness no cops around?wait for them to get done?
I wasn't intended to be cynical, I think it is a fair question.
A gun is of no value in a confrontation with a person unless you intend to kill them.
So same question for you, are you willing to kill someone for breaking into your rig?
It isn't critical or cynical, I am curious though how you would handle a car theft situation?
:dunno:
excellent question.
are your material possessions worth someone's life?
Well for me I am not going to ever draw unless my person is in danger. If they are screwing with my truck I am calling the cops and being a witness.
I carry for one reason mine or my family's protection. The truck is insured.
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if you are saying it on this thread then you allready did the research on it so show us where you got this info you are talking about then, so we dont have to do what you allready did. :yeah:
Game laws do not override state Carry Laws.
They certainly can. As you'll recall, it was only a few years ago that you could not carry a firearm while you were bow hunting. Some states still have that law.
:yeah: I'd like to what the exact rules are also.
That said, I simply can't imagine being in a situation while hunting where I would not feel safe with only a shotgun.
If I were in that situation, I see two alternatives:
1)find a new place to hunt, or
2) carry a handgun if I feel the need, even if the rules are fuzzy
I've never been frisked by a wildlife agent. Does this happen?
if you are saying it on this thread then you allready did the research on it so show us where you got this info you are talking about then, so we dont have to do what you allready did. :yeah:
we are still waiting for some wac or reg number that you are going by when you say we cant carry in areas that we hunt.and this is for anyone that says you cant carry in certain hunting areas.if your saying it and arguing it you should have something by now i would think. not anyone particular just someone that says you cant.
They are not going to post because there is no law in this state prohibiting carry for self defense while hunting. :twocents:
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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Actually, you are the one that is wrong.
If you think you can carry anytime you hunt in Washington except a federal building you are are the ont that is wrong. Plenty of places you do not have the right to carry but do your own research so you dont end up in jail.
Ned is right if you want to go beyond the scope of this thread, there are plenty of places other than Federal buildings where you cannot carry.
Inside a school is the 1st example that popped into my head.
Still doesn't have much relevance to this thread.
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
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Actually, you are the one that is wrong.
If you think you can carry anytime you hunt in Washington except a federal building you are are the ont that is wrong. Plenty of places you do not have the right to carry but do your own research so you dont end up in jail.
Ned is right if you want to go beyond the scope of this thread, there are plenty of places other than Federal buildings where you cannot carry.
Inside a school is the 1st example that popped into my head.
Still doesn't have much relevance to this thread.
I responded to the OP questions which directly indicated Waterfowl hunting.
Not school,or bars, or court rooms. No one I know hunts in those areas.
If the Op wished to know every where he could not carry ,there are far better forums to ask on than this one.
Open carry.org. Washington would be just one.
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:yeah:
Lets put it to bed. This thread is dead.
:hello:
Besides I am about to have some fun with the Northeasties on the Kettle Falls Thread.
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Thanks for the read
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Ya'll forgot that you would have to carry non-toxic ammo in your sidearm as it is listed in the MBTA that you cannot posses ANY type of ammunition other than non-toxic while hunting waterfowl. Copper jacket lead is NOT non-toxic according to the feds. :sry: :bash:
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*cough*
RCW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:
( 8 ) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;
*cough*
So I'll continue to carry my pistol to and from anywhere I'm hunting in Washington.
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*cough*
RCW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:
( 8 ) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;
*cough*
So I'll continue to carry my pistol to and from anywhere I'm hunting in Washington.
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A. The Code of Federal Regulations, 50 CFR 20.21(j), specifically requires that no persons may take migratory game birds for which open seasons are prescribed while possessing shot (either in shotshells or as loose shot for muzzleloading) other than steel shot or such shot approved as nontoxic by the Director pursuant to procedures set forth in section 20.134. Section 20.21(j) further provides that the restriction applies only to waterfowl and coots. Section 20.134, Nontoxic Shot, lays out specific steps that the applicant submitting the candidate shot and the Service must take before final approval of non-toxicity status is granted or denied. Section 20.134 contains detailed provisions for: approval, application and review, and outline of procedures for testing. The latter section prescribes (a) an initial screening phase which will determine chemical composition and in vitro erosional characteristics and (b) an in vivo toxicity test phase that will measure short-term periodic exposure, chronic exposure under extreme environmental conditions, and chronic exposure impact on reproduction.
B. Current nontoxic shot approval procedures were developed in the mid-80s under then-current technologies, and there has been no test of the procedures because no candidate shot types have been fully processed as yet. Given these facts, and in the absence of specific information regarding future shot technologies, it is the policy of the Service to regard the procedures as being somewhat flexible with regard to the kinds or exhaustiveness of tests that may be required. That is, it may be possible on the basis of support information submitted by the applicant to forego certain portions of the procedures and/or to require additional ones. Other tests might be applicable in the case of unconventional materials, such as a ceramic-metal composite. This approach to an approval request for nontoxic shot procedures will likely necessitate a more comprehensive public review of and comment on the Service's intended actions.
I don't know law for WA but in OR I know you cannot have in possession any type of AMMUNITION that is "toxic". After reading this I don't think lead bullets would be illegal by the MBTA as it only talks about 'shot' not bullets. :tup:
http://www.fws.gov/policy/723fw4.html (http://www.fws.gov/policy/723fw4.html)
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
It's not illegal to give legal advice..... if you follow it and don't do your research you an idiot. :llam:
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So to sum up for the OP
You can carry a handgun for self defense any time you are hunting any where in the State of Washington. Except into federal buildings.
Are you an attorney????
Its illegal to give legal advice unless you are.
BTW..................your statements are wrong.
It's not illegal to give legal advice..... if you follow it and don't do your research you an idiot. :llam:
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Actually my understanding is that it is illegal to give legal *advice* if not a lawyer. It is not illegal to give legal *information* though.
For example, if I was to link the RCW and say draw your own conclusions. That would be legal information. However if I linked the RCW, and advised you as to what course of action you should take, that would be legal advice.
I am not a lawyer though, so if there are any around I would love to hear if I am correct or not.
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i understand oi just quoted someone else ... my thing is it isn't illegal... at all ... if i told you it was legal to kill someone and you went and did it you think i would have any repercussions... i think not... you'd be the moron that killed them... i would def have to see the Law that says it's illegal to give "legal" advice. Police and Paralegals provide advice all the time and opinons and they never go to jail. So..... yeah.... def not illegal. :beatdeadhorse:
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No problem as long as you don't claim to be a lawyer and/or charge a fee.
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you can't claim to be a lawyer, but you can charge a fee..... as long as the reciept is broad and says "information" and it can't be specific, but you also need to have a small business licesence.... etc... (sorry for spelling)
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My legal advice to anyone who thinks it is illegal for me to give him this legal advice is to sue me. I could use the money. :chuckle:
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My legal advice to anyone who thinks it is illegal for me to give him this legal advice is to sue me. I could use the money. :chuckle:
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i understand oi just quoted someone else ... my thing is it isn't illegal... at all ... if i told you it was legal to kill someone and you went and did it you think i would have any repercussions... i think not... you'd be the moron that killed them... i would def have to see the Law that says it's illegal to give "legal" advice. Police and Paralegals provide advice all the time and opinons and they never go to jail. So..... yeah.... def not illegal. :beatdeadhorse:
It is illegal to give a person legal advice when you are a non-lawyer, per Washington State Bar Rules. Paralegals are under the supervisory duty of the managing attorney and yes they can give legal advice. Police officers cannot offer legal advice, they usually state a particular law you violated and tell you to talk to the prosecutor because they are deferring any representation they made. Second, I wouldn't tell anyone to kill someone even if you think its a joke and they are a joker for doing it. You could get nailed for conspiracy and accomplice liability. And Yes I am a Lawyer. JM
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i guess you could... i am saying ... Lawyer or not... the fact is it is not against the law to state your legal opinon. Which in turn could be taken as legal advice.
Please tell me what US code or WA state code it is so i can look at this. it would be intresting. My dad is a judge in louisiana, for me it would be intresting to see the differences in napoleonic code (which we have down there) and here which is Common Law. I am it was a I mean yeah you are right if i told someone to directly kill a particular person... then i think yeah you might be in a little hot water and serve some serious time
and let me ask you a question About Washington State Bar rules... i am not questioning your expertise on this particular topic b/c you are a Lawyer and i am certinly not.. .but to educate my self and other viewers reading this for infomation, do we follow Washing state Law as well as U.S. Federal Law. Maybe under the WA. Bar Association while you are in law shcool it may be against the law but i don;t think it is against the law to give leagal advice... just my :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: ( there are alots ot cents in there)
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It is not against the law to give advice legal or otherwise.
It is against the law to give legal representation as a lawyer and not be one.
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It is not against the law to give advice legal or otherwise.
It is against the law to give legal representation as a lawyer and not be one.
You can represent yourself in court. If you say your a lawyer and then go to court and represent a client and say yout a lawyer.. i think thats what your saying right? is against the law?
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It is not against the law to give advice legal or otherwise.
It is against the law to give legal representation as a lawyer and not be one.
You can represent yourself in court. If you say your a lawyer and then go to court and represent a client and say your a lawyer.. i think that's what your saying right? is against the law?
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In court on a forum in public it is all the same, you can not say you are a lawyer and not be one.
It is not against the law to give advise legal or otherwise.
People need to be responsible on their own, if you want real legal advice go to a lawyer not in a public forum.
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What I am trying say is (take this how you want) that a lay person giving legal advice to another lay person and that person whom you are giving advice may detrimentally rely (promissory estoppel) upon your statement, meaning justice requires enforcement, action induced, a promise made etc.
Its up to you how you want to give advice.
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The giving of “advise” definitely falls under the protection of the First Amendment.
If you ask me if you should take John to smalls claims court and I say yes you should I have given you legal advise but I am not a lawyer. I have not broken any law.
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The giving of “advise” definitely falls under the protection of the First Amendment.
If you ask me if you should take John to smalls claims court and I say yes you should I have given you legal advise but I am not a lawyer. I have not broken any law.
That's not legal advice.
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please tell me what qualifies as legal advice.
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"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
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"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
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"legal advice" and "legal information" is often blurred only a lawyer may give actual legal advice, a non-lawyer may recite legal information, again this is not against the law.
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Only until you rely upon the wrong "legal information."
Yes I agree with the 1st amendment, but "advice from a lawyer" is not a freedom of speech question and answer, its actually call privilege, work product.
A lawyer may only give actual legal advice to their "client" an no one else. Legal info. is something a lay person reads from a book, etc. and interprets. There is nothing to be blurred between the two.
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What a bunch of anal two bit replies on this thread.
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i understand oi just quoted someone else ... my thing is it isn't illegal... at all ... if i told you it was legal to kill someone and you went and did it you think i would have any repercussions... i think not... you'd be the moron that killed them... i would def have to see the Law that says it's illegal to give "legal" advice. Police and Paralegals provide advice all the time and opinons and they never go to jail. So..... yeah.... def not illegal. :beatdeadhorse:
It is illegal to give a person legal advice when you are a non-lawyer, per Washington State Bar Rules. Paralegals are under the supervisory duty of the managing attorney and yes they can give legal advice. Police officers cannot offer legal advice, they usually state a particular law you violated and tell you to talk to the prosecutor because they are deferring any representation they made. Second, I wouldn't tell anyone to kill someone even if you think its a joke and they are a joker for doing it. You could get nailed for conspiracy and accomplice liability. And Yes I am a Lawyer. JM
Thank you for the CORRECT info.
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i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about? :o
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i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about? :o
They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/ (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/)
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i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about? :o
They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/ (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/)
I think what irishvox is asking is for someone to pull out of the RCW's the specific code that says it is against the law to give legal advice. I do not think you will find it.
Those that say it is against the law can you back it up with at least a link?
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i am still confused a tad bit..... what are the "codes" that show what your talking about? :o
They are talking about the Revised Code of Washington. According to the web site below "The Revised Code of Washington (RCW) is the compilation of all permanent laws now in force. It is a collection of Session Laws (enacted by the Legislature, and signed by the Governor, or enacted via the initiative process), arranged by topic, with amendments added and repealed laws removed. It does not include temporary laws such as appropriations acts. The official version of the RCW is published by the Statute Law Committee and the Code Reviser."
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/ (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/)
I think what irishvox is asking is for you to pull out of the RCW's the specific code that says it is against the law to give legal advice. I do not think you will find it.
Here is one of them...if you use that link I posted, this specific code is listed under the Title 9 section.
RCW 9.41.060
Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
Here is the direct link as well.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060)
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I did not think this thread was about if you could or could not carry a gun any more. Atroxus we are on the same page. Reading your replies we agree on things.
again I think irishevox was asking for someone to show the RCW that says it is against the law to give legal advice.
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I did not think this thread was about if you could or could not carry a gun any more. Atroxus we are on the same page. Reading your replies we agree on things.
again I think irishevox was asking for someone to show the RCW that says it is against the law to give legal advice.
Oh...that one I am not sure...I would assume it is in the RCW somewhere, but I don't know which Title number it is covered by. :dunno:
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There are waterproof containers out there (otter box type) that are big enough for a pistol, and they float. Just clip the box on your waders. If you find yourself really needing the pistol, then I hope the shotgun failed.
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Not recommended... lol.
My brother took his out once, HILLARIOUS!!!
he had it on his hip UNDER his chest waders. looked like he was smuggling a potato! lol....
Plus.... if you've EVER taken a dump while duck hunting, then you know how dangerous it can be to have your gun fall out of your pants when your waders are bunched around your legs.
DUCKDUDE allmost dropped his XD .40 in a... fresh pile, let's say. ;)
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HEY YOU SAID YOU WOULD NEVER TELL :chuckle:
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nope... said I would never take a picture.....