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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: h20hunter on March 07, 2013, 12:33:03 PM
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Is it too early to start my thread for my upcoming 2013 spring bear hunt? Nah....I don't think so at all. I put in this year for Monroe and had three points going in. Very happy to have drawn. I've already been texting back and forth with D-Rock and Ripper, both of whom have drawn tags in the last few years. Very excited to be able to have guys that have offered support that have boots on the ground experience. Who knows.....maybe I'll get the new bow bloody before elk season!
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:tup:
Good for you!
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Now if you just had a little buddy that knows the area really well :dunno:
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I got a few buddies!
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lucky you, the big FU for me
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lucky you, the big FU for me
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FU?
first unselected? :dunno:
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:tup:
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Nice! :tup:
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Time to get some cams out.
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D between you and me I don't see how he couldn't score!
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Already texted the wife and she is happy for me. Wife happy = more hunting time......she is awesome!
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One things for sure is that tag ain't a for sure bear.
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Already texted the wife and she is happy for me. Wife happy = more hunting time......she is awesome!
Have you told it you have to spend more to get the permit? :chuckle:
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HUSH
D.......nope not a sure thing. Gonna have to have a little luck, a lot of effort, and a little help.
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Good luck way jealous of your draw... got this guy 2 years ago in that unit and seen his dad so been way anxious to go after.. guess i gotta wait another year. Ugh.
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D rock will have you all trained up on being camp boy before elk season, I think the draw was fixed just for this reason! :cue:
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D rock will have you all trained up on being camp boy before elk season, I think the draw was fixed just for this reason! :cue:
:chuckle:
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Elk....feel free to share any info you want....I will be accepting all help and buying beers at the hunt recap after I (we) get one down.
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Congratulations. I drew it a few years ago. There are plenty of bears in there.
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Maybe just maybe this could be a very special year for H20hunter. Brand new bow coming spring bear tag. Elk hunting with a "elk hunting god". What a year its going to be.
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Congrats! Hope you kill a big one!
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H20,
I am well versed in the art of drinking beer and bear spotting. You can place me on a stump with a half rack and a radio and I'll be of great service. Let me know if you'd like to hire me, I work for free.
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Roger that....what is bear hunting without beer?
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Roger that....what is bear hunting without beer?
IS THAT EVEN LEGAL !!!!!! :dunno: bear hunting without bear that is!!!!! :chuckle:
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If it is it shouldn't be!
Please note all the sarcasm font and emoticons.....
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Sweet ...did you get in the back door to find out ? That makes it a little more exciting when they get the results out that quick ! good for the soul ! :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:
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H20,
I am well versed in the art of drinking beer and bear spotting. You can place me on a stump with a half rack and a radio and I'll be of great service. Let me know if you'd like to hire me, I work for free.
you better work for free.
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Ive seen your bear spotting ability.
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Buckmark....thanks for your kind and inspiring works....I was not able to send my very eloquent reply....your inbox is full. You will have to use your imagination.
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H20, Just go hit the Garage Sales this spring to the east of where we live. I see multiple each year moving across or off the side of the road. They aren't hard to find. That way you can find some deals and still bag your yogi...
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Valid point.
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H20, Just go hit the Garage Sales this spring to the east of where we live. I see multiple each year moving across or off the side of the road. They aren't hard to find. That way you can find some deals and still bag your yogi...
And that way you wont have to spend money on bullets, just tag one on the way to the sale. You might be able to trade garage sale proprietors an uncured bear rug (fresh) for a used lawnmower or something. You wont need a gun, you'll break like 50 laws, and you'll get a sweet new (to you) lawnmower.
All the while I'll be in the bed of your pickup drinking beer in a used chaise lounge (usually a garage sale freebie).
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When we going? :dunno:
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Soon actually....Ripper wants to go hiking behind the gates to check things out.
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all i can say is with this much exposure on the first day of this thread the expectations are high!! will hope to get on going photo updates on scouting, hunt, & finish. personally i would be setting luvmystang67 up as soon as possable. might not be quite as reliable as a game came after a 1/2 rack but maybe just as effective. just remember the baiting rules.
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Woop wooop!
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I think we need to do a monroe tag holder seminar. I have all the info and will share.
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D....i believe that since I of all people drew the tag a planning and strategy session would be a given. It will obviously be held where beer is served and take longer than necessary. Details will be posted.
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:tup:
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D between you and me I don't see how he couldn't score!
Ripper, cuz you'll be helping me..... :chuckle:
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Nice...cmon down!
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Nice...cmon down!
:tup:
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Just found out I was selected also, live close to you all, if you are going to get together prior to the hunt, I will buy the first round! Jazzed about this, my first spring bear draw.
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We drew Monroe also :tup:
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I didn't know Lokidog drew also. That's way cool, a lot of Monroe tag holders this year. Yes Loki, I will be helping you also. I know a couple of places where it would be nice to have multiple hunters because of the wind direction. You could have a guy or 2 watching the edge of a clear cut while a guy works an adjacent over grown skid road. Wow, I'm excited and I don't even have a tag!
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I'm pretty exited myself. Hopefully H20hunter can put one down. Preferably while its in good day light hours so i don't have to track bear in the dark like last year.
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I'm pretty exited myself. Hopefully H20hunter can put one down. Preferably while its in good day light hours so i don't have to track bear in the dark like last year.
Maybe if he uses my .375 it'll help eliminate tracking period.
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This thread is already 4 pages, and all that's happened so far was that H2O drew.... Good Lawdy, if you actually connect, this thread is gonna smoke the BF thread for # of pages!
I have a good pack, sharp knives, and comfy boots that can cover plenty of ground if you or anyone else (lokidog) needs any help, or just company, scouting or packing out animals or whatever. :tup:
D between you and me I don't see how he couldn't score!
Ripper, cuz you'll be helping me..... :chuckle:
So will I! I still owe you, lemme know what I can do!
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H20,
If you’re taking volunteers, I sure would like to do whatever I can to help. :hello:
Document this adventure with pictures (I’m pretty good at that);
Ice the beer (Good at that too :chuckle:);
Glass the fields;
Etc.
Please include me if it’s not too crowded. I want to do whatever I can to learn.
Thanks, :tup:
Carl
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I would want to help also if I can ....I didn't get drawn ,however like Carl said if it isn't too crowded and you guys don't mind ............ see I'm already contributing to make this long thread :IBCOOL:
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What thread have I ever started that has not gone long? I plan to keep snapping pics and posting as the adventure goes along.
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This is going to be like an army in the woods.
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I'm thinking we will have enough folks to do a bear drive!
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I'm thinking we will have enough folks to do a bear drive!
that i would like too see. :chuckle:
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If you are talking a legit on-foot drive though the woods to flush out a bear I am 100% in (you buy the beer for this one though). I love big game drives and have had good success in the past. Since I'm louder than sh*t in the woods I make one hell of a bird dog. Especially when I'm a half rack in.
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I am. I'm talking about a lined up brush pushing face getting scratched falling on your butt hoping I don't shoot you bear drive.
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I'll just post up with h20hunter and be a spotter.
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Good information to have if you want to be part of the brush-beating bear search...
http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/bear_balls (http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/bear_balls)
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i answered all ? as a bad a$$ and i will surive only 1min 11seconds! :yike:
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I'm a gonner....I only got 47 seconds. Shouldn't have been so honest on the crying question.
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Posting to follow your thread. Hope you get a big one!
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I'm a gonner....I only got 47 seconds. Shouldn't have been so honest on the crying question.
Beat you with 23 seconds... reminder to self, do not kick a bear in the balls before shooting him.... :chuckle:
Good thing I have a good gun!
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46 seconds, god I'm a wussy. I even lied and said I knew some martial arts! :chuckle:
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40 seconds and then I s..t my pants :bdid:
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54 for me. Pure ninja skills.
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31 Seconds, I think I cry too often. :'(
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Congrats guys! I was not able to apply for spring bear this year due to time restraints of starting a new job so I will be following you guys on here. Good luck!
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I really enjoy this bear ball kicking quiz made the wife take it she almost lasted as long as stang :chuckle:
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I got 30 seconds
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31 seconds, I must not run fast enough :-)
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49 seconds, dunno what to say. :dunno:
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Hey this sounds like a possible event for the "Rasbo Approved Hunt-WA Summer BBQ & Get-Together" at Fishstiq's. I would think as optimistic as H20 sounds he could provide the bear for the competition???
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Good luck with your bear, I'm up for helping out as well.
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If i cant I'll volunteer my wife she normally angry like bear but none of us will last 30 seconds.
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She angry like bear....
Of course I'm confident....I' m H20!
Actually...with the local support and help from those that have had the tag i really do tjink my odds of getting on a bear is decent. It should be a fun hunt to share with my buddies.
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If i cant I'll volunteer my wife she normally angry like bear but none of us will last 30 seconds.
So from what I'm hearing this could be a scene at your house?
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120352.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120352.0.html)
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Damn 6 pages already? :o You'd better get one!
I had the tag last year but due to life piling up on me I didn't get out much and unfortunately didn't tag out. If I can be of any assistance at all let me know.
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I predict many pages......before we even hunt. Gotta scout...make predictions....crack jokes about my pink fj.....all that.
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Well, if someone needs help packin a bruin out I'm available... :tup:
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Your pink FJ is more manly than most pink FJ's H2O so don't let the bastiges get ya down!
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Thanks....Buckmark was slumming today and stopped by my work....he didnt even bring itup.
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Maybe he's warming up to the idea! If you get a chance head over to fishing. I just posted up a link to my new boat. I'm going to help you set a page record even if I have to do a little thread jacking!
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Gonna be hard to beat bigfoot :chuckle:
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Stalling out at 6 pages.
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I hope you have better luck than your last two buddies who drew this permit.
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I don't know about that......one buddy tagged out last year and one came close. Another buddy has tagged out before and knows the area pretty well. I plan to hunt often from start to finish, learn all I can, bag one or not, then help next year and just stay out there.
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I'm pulling for ya. Seems like a hard permit to fill. I have 2 buddies that have drawn and they both tagged out at the very end of season. They said it was a harder permit than they thought it would be. Hopefully they extend it to June 15th.
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Oh yeah...it is not a gimmie by any means. I've heard the same thing about succes....mostly towards the end of the permit season. I'm thinking that we may have a little better chance this year.....c'mon sunshine and early to rise boo boo!
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Haha no doubt. I need some sun a little north of you as well.
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When I had it I only saw one bear in the early part of the season in spite of getting out several days mid week and each weekend. Then one day there were bears everywhere and I ended my season. Someone told me that the beginning of the season was too early and I should just wait until the end but I was too excited to have the tag and just wanted to be out hunting.
Drawing that tag is what brought this site to my attention and introduced me to the helpful bear hunters here.
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I don't expect to tag out right away...I figure to hunt and hunt some more. Then, along they way, God willing...I'll find one out in the open and whack 'em.
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You will make some good memories with friends and hopefully tag out on a beauty.
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DENIED for me
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Get trail cams up last weekend?
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Yep.....refreshed the batteries and card in my current spot and have cam number two in the general area I shot my fall bear last year.
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Not sure if cam 2 will be in the spring unit. I'd like to hang my new cam out for you once you get your key.
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Nope....don't think cam number two is.....
I'd of course take you up on using an extra cam behind gates. I'm thinking the next decent weekend we should put boots on the ground and go. This going to have to be at the end of the month.....also....I'm off the whole last week of the month....how cool is that!
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End of this month or next?
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End of this month....gonna have to put boots to the ground and do some pre scouting.
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Congrats D! I put in for Skagit & Monroe but my 5 points weren't enough I guess. :dunno:
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Bumner...i thought i saw you post that you drew. Next year then.
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So....I see in the email from the state that we should have our packets no later than March 28th. D-Rock.....Ripper......did you guys have to go somewhere....Sedro Wooly.....or something like that to pick up your key?
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Yeah you will. Dnr office up there has your key
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That might work out.....if packets are due to us by the 28th wonder if I can run up on the 29th to get it.
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Normally they only let you have the key a few days before season starts.
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Hmmmmm.....any idea if this office is open on Saturdays?
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Nope Monday thru Friday closes at 4pm too. Kinda sucks.
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Yep....gonna have to figure that one out. I'd hate to burn a vacation day just to get off work to go up (sedro wooly right) and get it but I'll do what I gotta do I suppose. Maybe we can nominate one Monroe tag holder to go pick 'em up.
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I might be able to pick up keys on the 29th if they are available and they will let me pick up other folk's keys. I could mail them to non-locals.
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I'd be amazed if they let us acutually do that.
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Got to pick it up in person. Photo id $100 deposit and sign key agreement most be done in person.
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Got to pick it up in person. Photo id $100 deposit and sign key agreement most be done in person.
Sorry, I tried.... That would suck if you live in Spokane or Vancouver, etc.
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If anyone has the number handy for the DNR office in Sedro Woolley I'll call and ask about availability.
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Number coming let me look a minute.
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360-856-3500
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If you don't have them yet, here is the map from the 2009 packet and a MyTopo of the area. The bears should be in the same areas.
http://www.tgfoitwoods.com/images/MonroeBearMap.pdf (http://www.tgfoitwoods.com/images/MonroeBearMap.pdf)
http://www.mytopo.com/review.cfm?mytopoid=4704222FEE (http://www.mytopo.com/review.cfm?mytopoid=4704222FEE)
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Called and left a message for Peter Herd....will post when I get a chance to talk to him.
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So....I chatted with a guy that was not "the guy" but knows who is. From what I've gathered already there is going to be a meeting on April 13th in our area for the Monroe tag holders. I believe keys will be made available then. I've got a message into the guy and hopefully he will give me a call back. Details to follow when I know more.
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When are we doing are monroe tag get together.
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Not sure....I'm pretty booked most of the rest of this month. Easter is coming up....probably right after....early April I would say.
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I know a couple of good spots to hang a trail cam if you end up with another. I may even go get one or two myself.
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Ripper....this year we are gonna sit on a few of those areas and really work the cub distress call. I will feel better with someone having my back when I call.
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Can't wait to see the pics of the spring bear hunt! Best of luck when the time comes H20, been reading some older posts and you seem like a stand up guy.
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If you don't have them yet, here is the map from the 2009 packet and a MyTopo of the area. The bears should be in the same areas.
http://www.tgfoitwoods.com/images/MonroeBearMap.pdf (http://www.tgfoitwoods.com/images/MonroeBearMap.pdf)
http://www.mytopo.com/review.cfm?mytopoid=4704222FEE (http://www.mytopo.com/review.cfm?mytopoid=4704222FEE)
That map still looks pretty accurate from the scouting I have done in the last year even though its from 2009. Ran into a ton of sign 8 miles back but not accessable by vehicles. I haven't decided if I'm going to that area yet. Maybe try the roads first then after a few weeks take a few days and camp back in that area. Be a fun hunt forsure.
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Sweet.....got my notice in the mail about the meeting in mill creek. Nice to nit have to drive to sedro woolley.
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Lucky you.
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Mill creek sucks, I hate having to drive south of Marysville. >:(
Just opened my "packet", two type written pages. Anyone notice the cost of postage for this? 92 cents! I could have mailed this same thing for 46 cents and saved money on a smaller envelope. Good use of taxpayer $$. :bash: Also, why not save the additional postage and have the tag in there? :bash: X2
And yeah, I know, it's not that much in total, but this is just typical. Maybe I'm too cranky? I need to go fish or something. Guess I'll work in the garden.
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Well i cant wait to help look for some bears.
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Didn't this have more pages already :dunno:
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Thought it was like nine or so. We get hunting and have something to show it will be better.
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Me too. What happen? :dunno:
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More posts per page equals less pages equals faster server equals less forum crashing.
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Hmmm I see. Thought we lost some posts.
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Well....I've been out and about in some of the area we can hunt. No sign yet that I've seen. One possible sighting on cam....the verdict is split between bear and lion. Talked with some loggers in one of the properties and they have not been seeing anything moving yet.
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FYI it was a bear!
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If it was I should have pics of it again by the time I check the cam in this spot. Also, I've got a blind set up for a one man archery hunt.
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I can't wait until we can go its almost like I have the tag also.
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I know buddy. Antsy antsy antsy. Bummer that the wife has plans that first weekend but we can get out that Sunday for a hunt. You wanna come along on the 13th to the Mill Creek meeting?
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I'll be out of town all weekend.
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Page died, better giver a bump. :chuc
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Thanks buddy. Really do hope that folks do well this season.
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I'm going to do a hike in the Monroe area this weekend. I'll let you know what I see.
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Which day? Sunday?
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Not sure yet, do you want to do a hike?
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So far I'm free on Sunday.
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I will call ya.
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FYI it was a bear!
lion
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H2O,
How many trail cameras do you guys have out? I haven't put mine out yet in N Skagit, work is getting in way of my hunt preparations. :(
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Sadly just one.
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I love pics
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FYI it was a bear!
lion
so its like that huh?
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Too bad it was such a crappy day on Sunday, I was looking forward too a hike. Have you gotten your key yet H2O?
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Nope....the meeting is this Saturday. I'll post up the information that way if anyone has lost their mailer they will have it. Agreed about the hike...was looking forward to it until it became a monsoon.
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On a positive note, I drove down to Enumclaw and picked up 65lbs of bison. We had a great BBQ even though it was pouring.
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Nope....the meeting is this Saturday. I'll post up the information that way if anyone has lost their mailer they will have it. Agreed about the hike...was looking forward to it until it became a monsoon.
1:00 pm, Saturday April 13 at WDFW's Mill Creek office, 16018 Mill Creek Blvd., Mill Creek. If people can't make it, they can pick the info up during regular business hours at the Mill Creek office, 425-775-1311.
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The brother and law and I will be there. I can make it into the office during normal hours but nice to meet a few people there. Besides....it is a reason to stop at the Lazy Bow Brewing in Everett afterwards!
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So are you taking off on Monday? That's the opener isn't it? Any activity on your camera's?
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Dude.....I don't get to hunt until SUNDAY!!!!!!! The wife has had a two day'er on the books for months with the girlfriends. It will be the wee ones and I until late morning Sunday. I'll be able to get out for a hunt then. Not to bad of a deal considering how much leeway I get to hunt so its all good.
Nothing new on the camera...its been a few weeks since I've check it. I may get up there on Sunday and will post if I have any action.
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Dude.....I don't get to hunt until SUNDAY!!!!!!! The wife has had a two day'er on the books for months with the girlfriends. It will be the wee ones and I until late morning Sunday. I'll be able to get out for a hunt then. Not to bad of a deal considering how much leeway I get to hunt so its all good.
Nothing new on the camera...its been a few weeks since I've check it. I may get up there on Sunday and will post if I have any action.
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Oh well, the season will keep getting better as time goes on. As easy as that is to say I know the anticipation you are feeling to get out and get after it!
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I was hoping to see some hairy pictures by now off you cams :chuckle:. I'll be looking for some Yogi later in the year as I didn't get drawn for springers :bash:. Hope you get one soon .
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Since my now in hand key opens the gate.....rain or shine im heading up to look around and check the cam tomorrow.
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Have fun tomorrow. I'm jealous, saylean is having a shin dig at his place tomorrow or I would be busy sniffing out north Skagit.
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Have fun tomorrow. I'm jealous, saylean is having a shin dig at his place tomorrow or I would be busy sniffing out north Skagit.
Bring chains. It dumped snow in the Skagit today.
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I hope your key works in your gate, last year mine didn't work there.
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It should. The map shows it. I'll know in about an hour or so...
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Good luck scouting.
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Yup, keep us all informed. If I wasn't at work I'd meet you out there.
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I hope your key works in your gate, last year mine didn't work there.
It might have been a F1-1 lock that wouldn't open.
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Key works for me. It was nice to drive in and tool around yesterday. No real reports to share other than I didn't see anything obivious. However, since the season wasn't open I had neither a rifle or much time to get out and walk. I'll see if I can't post a few pics from the phone in a bit.
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Do some more scouting Wednesday and go hang my camera.
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Scouting is preseason....the season is upon us....we will go hang your cam and I'll be bringing the rifle along. Meet at my place and we will head out.
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I'm scouting you're hunting.
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I'm glad your key works there. My key last year only opened about half the marked gates on my map. Good luck and let me know if and when you could use some help.
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Will do buddy.
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Hey Jerks, I just finished my application for business school. When can i sit on a stump with beer and a radio?
:hello:
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I assumed you were out there now...sitting....boozing...just waiting for me to drive up and pop one.
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Hey Jerks, I just finished my application for business school. When can i sit on a stump with beer and a radio?
:hello:
h20hunter and I might make a trip to droopyville tomorrow afternoon going to hang that new can I got. That's still in the package.
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Yep.....c'mon along buddy!
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I have two new bushnell trophy cam HDs with thief proof bear boxes that need a home too. I'll see what I can do, not sure what my schedule entails yet tomorrow.
They have the capability to do a field scan mode, so we could set it over a clearcut too, with timed shots.
Text me, I'll let you know.
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Your cams suck
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Talked with the jerk via text....he is going to let me know. You should send him a quick message about Trivia Night being for hippy sissies.
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He's one of those smart educated folks :bash:
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Reading this thread intently, awaiting to hear of a big one taken down. When are you going out?
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Tomorrow....then Sunday...then every weekend with a few weeknights.
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Tomorrow....then Sunday...then every weekend with a few weeknights.
This is not often enough. Well it might be for now, but it wont be later in the season. What are you doing Thurs, Fri, Sat? Why would you NOT bear hunt?
He's one of those smart educated folks :bash:
It is just one of my many excuses to drink beer, I just planned this when I didn't realize spring bear had opened up. So now i'm tryin not be be an educated super *censored* by ditching them. :dunno:
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:chuckle:
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Harsh......gotta work. This weekend I'm chilling with the kids. Well worth it to be able to hunt more later in the season. The wife is being very supportive of my spring tag.
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He's married stang and his wife probably likes him unlike mine who kicks me out of the house for 3 months out of the year during hunting season.
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Yeah....so suck it!
So...did you cancel trivia night so you can go hunting yet?
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My gal was very supportive during last years spring hunt. This year she jumped up and down cheering upon receiving the news that I was not selected. We dudes tend to get narrow minded during hunting season. Just remember to bring flowers home once in a while after a 48 hour weekend of hunting. You may just get lucky by the the next weekend if you decide to hang for a few hours with the family! Good luck and remember, a little balance goes a long way!
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I hear that. The gear is packed and we will be heading out for an evening hunt.
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Good luck this evening. Finally on Page 8 the season starts.
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Go knock one down!
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Thanks...you just never know. We are heading up to an area that has proven to hold bears.
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I've seen 1 or 2 there.
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Yeah....dead ones!
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I wish I was heading out hunting. Good luck tonight.
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Good luck water boy. We just put in an offer on a house that I can hunt right out the back door! I know there are deer and bears in the area. I have my fingers crossed.
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Good luck water boy. We just put in an offer on a house that I can hunt right out the back door! I know there are deer and bears in the area. I have my fingers crossed.
Good luck with that :tup: The only other thing you would need is a trout pond 8)
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It's on 4 acres so it is a possibility! You could come over and shoot ducks off the patio!
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Yes please....I'm thinking a little raised hunting blind clubhouse for the kids....put in a little food plot...maybe an apple tree...done deal baby!
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I'm all about shooting ducks.
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If I plant a row of apple trees along the wood line and bears come in, is that considered baiting? How about if I hang some bird feeders in the apple trees?
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I would say you can plant all the apple trees you want. Just like if you planted your own blackberries or any other natural browse. The feeder would be considered baiting. Just wait till the silly bear is done with the seed and working on a naturally ripened and fallen from the tree apple.....BOOM! Bear down!
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Poor little bears.
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Silly bears you mean....
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Poor, silly, tasty tasty bears....
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Poor, silly, tasty tasty bears....
:yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Joe....in a perfect world I'll get a spring bear and keep a whole ham intact. I'm sure we can figure out a good way to cook it.
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Today could be a nice day for a walk in the woods.
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Joe....in a perfect world I'll get a spring bear and keep a whole ham intact. I'm sure we can figure out a good way to cook it.
:tup: I'm willing and able to help pack out dead animals, and decent enough with a knife to get a couple roasts off it before the rest goes to the butcher!
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Well...we went, explored, and even hunted. Not much to report...no new peels or sign. Very nice to be out and about.
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Nice little drive anyway.
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The weather was good for a walk.
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We did a few short walks.
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It was a nice day. Any day is a good day for walk in the bear woods. You will start seeing increased sign in about 2 weeks.
D-Rock, you are welcome to shot ducks off my patio also. :chuckle: I still haven't heard if the bank accepted our offer. Should hear something today.
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Cool I'm ready :tup:
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I would say you can plant all the apple trees you want. Just like if you planted your own blackberries or any other natural browse. The feeder would be considered baiting. Just wait till the silly bear is done with the seed and working on a naturally ripened and fallen from the tree apple.....BOOM! Bear down!
There is already a deep ravine behind the property lined with blackberries. There is a nice creak back there also. Food, water, cover, sounds like bearidise to me!
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Agreed...
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Sounds like a good spot for a tree stand and :archery_smiley:
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So...my plan Sunday is to still hunt a blind I've got set up. I'll be packing my bow and my 870. My "killing field" is not very big. I will be setting up a caller on the far side from me and using a fawn distress. If a bear comes in the plan is to stick 'em. If a yote comes in the plan is to blast him with the 12. Any suggestions on calling duration for the fawn distress?
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Might be a little early for fawn distress.
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Not for yotes.....I figure what can it hurt. Any bears out early may assume that fawns are dropped also. I know I've got deer traffic in the area.
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I just think its to early for fawns and animals know it.
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Maybe....I think you are overthinking it....instict says I'm gonna eat that fawn (maybe).
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cub distress :drool:
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I can do that also...
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I would borrow my black jack decoy and just use a rabbit in distress or anything else in distress like you would do for coyote and wait to see. I don't think bears are that picky when hungry. Most say to call mostly steady for an hour or a hair more.
:twocents:
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Will do...I also have one of those bunnys that wobble and shake. It is really funny as hell to watch.
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The blackjack looks so good Ieven want to eat it. It moves erratically and doesnt look like any one animal in particular, but it definitely gathers attention. You should see our dog look at it.
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So...my plan Sunday is to still hunt a blind I've got set up. I'll be packing my bow and my 870. My "killing field" is not very big. I will be setting up a caller on the far side from me and using a fawn distress. If a bear comes in the plan is to stick 'em. If a yote comes in the plan is to blast him with the 12. Any suggestions on calling duration for the fawn distress?
1 1/2 hours. Good luck. I think you might see more bears by glassing from high points and coveringmore ground. Unless you already have the bear located :twocents:
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:yeah: I would spend the first two weeks really scouting get to know the whole unit.
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Just looking at the regs. Monroe spring bear tag is a portion of gmu 448. Can someone throw up a link to the exact boundries? Maybe the map? Im wondering where the monroe/skagit boundry is.
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its that gray area :tup:
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Monte unit is most of the area surrounding spada lake
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its that gray area :tup:
Do you mean its not defined?
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D-rock pm sent
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Right now the bears are just feeding on fresh green grass shoots to jump start there digestive system. You may have fun shooting coyotes but doubt you'll have any bears coming in........especially when they hear a 12 ga go off and coyotes yelping :chuckle:
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The monroe unit is pretty big. There is a map on the internet....I will see if I can find it. Stand by.
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Click on the link below. The map is from 2008, but it gives you a good idea.
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Thanks rebel, its a nice afternoon to kill bears. Hope someone gets lucky today.
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Right now your best bet is to get out and cover ground. get to know as many area's as you can. Look for last years peels and that will give you an idea on where to start. Once the new peels start showing, then set up a blind in an active area. keep working that area and then in late may you can start the fawn in distress calling. Just my :twocents:
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Beets and bears
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Well, I listened to the advice and didn't sit and call. It turned out to be a better afternoon evening hunt because of it. On the way out it was just dumping rain and it seemed that it was going to be strictly an FJ ride in the woods. However, once we got to the gate it was blue skies all the way. We went up an checked the cam...a few pics of yotes but no bear activity. So we packed up, changed out the card and headed out. We took a different road that we had not previously explored and were going on the assumption that it may lead us to another part of the unit that was open. We found some great looking ground that will have to be revisited later in the season. My guess is it looks good now but will be grown way the heck up later on. After drving up and around we cam into some area that deserved to be walked. Found some are that one of the other members and his son are hunting and kept a sharp eye for trail cams. Didn't spot any so no cam antics were to be had. After walking a few smaller spur roads and not seeing any fresh sign or scat...just a few old peels....we decided to keep on going. Turns out we were much closer to one of the other gates than we thought. Walked another short spur and when we cam back out somebody had walked in just past us and seemed to be doing some target shooting. Not wanting to head that far back into get past the shooter we called it a hunt and headed out.
So...no sign at all up higher....old sigh down lower. Seems that they are not very active yet. I've heard rumors from a few guys that sighting have been had of course but they are few and far between. Going to head back out to explore this evening.
Here is a pic of a little doe. We came around a corner and she was just off the road. She looked more startled than we were and didn't seem to know what to do.
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Have you been drinking this morning H2O? Lot's of typo's in there. :chuckle: Not to act like the internet spelling police............just sayin
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Well.....I'm not drunk. :chuckle:
Nope...just typing in a hurry this morning.
You up for an evening drive? We are heading back out....my place around 5:30 ish?
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Would love to but I'll be looking at more houses. We didn't get that other one in bearadise. Someone offered above asking price and got it. Good luck. If you want to see some of my hidey holes from last year let me know. I probably won't be available until after this weekend though, going sturgeon fishing.
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Cool.....we have plenty of time to get out...things as I mentioned are pretty slow....exploration drives make or some pleasant road hunting.
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Good luck tonight. Maybe a good night to take the upper road where we went the other night.
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I'm heading out tomorrow morning for my first look around, maybe I'll get lucky.... Thanks for keeping us posted.
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My guess so far is stay low.....I haven't seen anything up high other than old sign.
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I'll be heading in from the Lake Roesiger side.
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I'll be up there this evening....If I see anything worth sending you towards I'll shoot you a PM post hunt.
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What elevation are you hunting / looking right now H20?
Have you looked off the Start-up / Gold Bar side yet?
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I've been kind of all over the map on elevation. I've hunted (scouted) closer to Sultan and the Lake Rosinger area so far. Until I see peels or fresh sign I'm going to keep moving and learning. Been out once with D-Rock and Stang and they pointed out a look of good information. Jrebel...if you got some hot leads please feel free to invite yourself along. I'll buy afterwards.
Ed....pm me your cell and I'll be able to call with a report instead of PM...may work better.
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Don't know if I have any hot leads, but I use to live in Gold Bar and spent a lot of time in the hills. It has been 5 years so I don't know how grown up it has gotten. I was over last week and there a quite a few newer clear cuts down low that cannot be bad. I'll pm you an area that would be worth looking at in your travels. It is behind a locked gate so a decent hike will ne necessary, but most will not go there and we have seen lots of bears in there.
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Thanks....I appreciate any help I get.
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Dont know aany of you yet my co worker lives about a mile from kellog lake and has had a big bruinon his property the last two evenings he thinks its coming down from the clearcut off kellog lake road if thats in your area go get him.
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Just pm me his number and we can take care of it.
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Dont know aany of you yet my co worker lives about a mile from kellog lake and has had a big bruinon his property the last two evenings he thinks its coming down from the clearcut off kellog lake road if thats in your area go get him.
is he the guy, that watches it(a bear) go through a culvert under the road?
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Cant give his number but I would hunt that area ive seen a lot of sign off the lake and also at the pud property on 116 just off sultan basin hope you get one ive yet to connect might have to go guided to get a rug.
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Good Morning folks. Had a nice drive and some walking yesterday. Man...what a beautiful evening to be out and about. We explored a different section up by Lake Rosinger. The best place we walked was an older spur road that was still fairly open. There were a ton of old peels and maybe....slight maybe...a few trees that had been tested. It looked like there were a few scratch marks with sap running down the tree. It was not same day fresh but didn't look very old. Did find this one big pile of poo. I'm fairly sure this is bear. It looked very fiberous and was defenitly not from a horse. However...big ol pile it was. Of course I took a pic.
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Look for beets
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Keeping my eye out...no beets yet.
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Look for beets
Ok RT, what the hell is beets?
Garden type, or wild kind?
Or is that a spring bear pooh plug?
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Nah...the beets thing is just Rt messing with me...all in good fun. I imagine we will see beets mentioned on and off in a few threads.
I did talk with Lokidog last night and gave him a scouting report. He is out and about as we speak scouting and having a look around.
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Nah...the beets thing is just Rt messing with me...all in good fun. I imagine we will see beets mentioned on and off in a few threads.
I did talk with Lokidog last night and gave him a scouting report. He is out and about as we speak scouting and having a look around.
Nice, my upper lip needs some salve now, those hooks are nasty! :bash:
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Look for beets
Ok RT, what the hell is beets?
Garden type, or wild kind?
Or is that a spring bear pooh plug?
He's just trying to derail H20's thread :pee:
From the looks of that pile, you're onto something good :tup: Has your key worked for all the gates so far?
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Yes...so far the key has worked in all the gates I've tried. Granted...I've only used it on three but plan to keep exploring. Until I've got bears on cam or find fresh peels or have a sighting I'm going to just keep on the move, learn, share my reports with a couple of guys that have the tag and are sharing with me...that kind of thing.
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Net week lets get my cams set up. I've got 5 that could be deployed. I have some spots we should be placing them. Some day after work.
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Have you been out to where you and I walked last year? The spot by the pond where we saw the critter and later we found the big poo pile? D-Rock shot his bear back in the same area.
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Not yet....I'm hoping to take you along next trip....got plans for Sunday? AM?
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Not sure you can hunt will I killed my bear last year.
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Last year that area was included, they even gave us a separate map specifically for that area. I will be down on the Columbia this weekend or I would go. I will hook up with you next week after work and show you a couple of places to hang Stangs camera's. One spot is short hike in along a swamp, great place to sit in a blind.
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Sounds good.....bring me back a hunk o' sturgeon....I guess only if retention allowed.
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[quoteI guess only if retention allowed.][/quote]
Thurs, Fri and Sat. I'm taking my cousin down tomorrow for catch and release.
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Is this what we are looking for?
And, can we shoot coyotes w/o geting into trouble for not only hunting black bears?
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Yeah buddy....also yes you can shoot yotes.
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There was also mowed grass in front of these three trees along the road. Unfortunately, from my lawn mowing experience, it looked to be about a week old.
Yeah buddy....also yes you can shoot yotes.
And, good, since I did. First one I ever called in. Took this little in heat breeder out at 22 yards, didn't save the pelt after the ballistic tip did its job. :yike: It was all covered with dred locks anyways. I did save the head and tail though.
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Nice job! I havent made it out yet, but will this week.
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Nice job Lokidog :tup: Were you in the sultan basin today?
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NW - 750' elevation
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:tup: Nice job.
Gettin antsy hoping to see someone to tag out. Im hoping to get out again later this week. Today would have been awesome.
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Sweeeeet!!! Dead doggy :tup:
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Nice work :tup:
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I remember them saying in the meeting that this is for bear hunting only...I suppose if you hike into DNR land you can shoot anything that is in season but if you are using the yellow permit and key to get in than you would be going against what was stated in the meeting,
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:pee: :pee: :pee: :pee:
I remember them saying in the meeting that this is for bear hunting only...I suppose if you hike into DNR land you can shoot anything that is in season but if you are using the yellow permit and key to get in than you would be going against what was stated in the meeting,
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:pee: :pee: :pee: :pee:
I remember them saying in the meeting that this is for bear hunting only...I suppose if you hike into DNR land you can shoot anything that is in season but if you are using the yellow permit and key to get in than you would be going against what was stated in the meeting,
:twocents:
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What coyote :dunno:
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:pee: :pee: :pee: :pee:
I remember them saying in the meeting that this is for bear hunting only...I suppose if you hike into DNR land you can shoot anything that is in season but if you are using the yellow permit and key to get in than you would be going against what was stated in the meeting,
:twocents:
:yeah:x10
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Wow. Gate key or no key...legal and ethical taking of a yote.
Drama troll.
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Wow. Gate key or no key...legal and ethical taking of a yote.
Drama troll.
I am just saying what was said in the meeting, what we all heard.... if you are using the gate key and authorization to drive behind the gates you were asked to be only bear hunting.
Thanks for the derogatory name calling..
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Nothing spotted this morning, just some dead trees from old peels. Sky, I see what you are saying, I was hinking it meant you were in there bear hunting not just for another activity. For example, if I saw some mushrooms while in there bear hunting, I would pick them, but I would not be in there just cruising looking for mushrooms. I'll let the next one walk I guess.
Good hunting.
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Nothing spotted this morning, just some dead trees from old peels. Sky, I see what you are saying, I was hinking it meant you were in there bear hunting not just for another activity. For example, if I saw some mushrooms while in there bear hunting, I would pick them, but I would not be in there just cruising looking for mushrooms. I'll let the next one walk I guess.
Good hunting.
:yeah: That's the way I understood it also Lokidog. Please don't let the next one walk :chuckle: I'm speaking from a new born fawns' perspective :chuckle:
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Here is some clarification and requests that all key holders have received via email. I assume this is reponse to what has been discussed and posted in this thead as well as other. This is in no way an invitation to debate the request and reminder that has been made.
I have yet to hear of any harvest, but I know the bears are getting more and more active with each day of good weather. I hope all is well so far for your hunts. I do need to touch on a couple things regarding the access you have been granted.
I have received a few reports of activities and events that need to be clarified. First, this is viewed by all those involved as a damage hunt. Private timber companies, DNR, and WDFW came up with a standard that must be met and all of you were told in the meetings why. Getting vehicular access to all this land is a privilege and you have all agreed to hunt under the criteria presented to you in the meetings. You were granted access to hunt black bears, and black bears only. This does not include coyotes or targets. Please do not use your keys anywhere but within the unit you were drawn, and leave the gates in the position you encounter them.
Second, I would like to reiterate that if you see things that are out of the ordinary or questionable, we have provided you with a list of contact numbers to report these. You have my email and telephone number if you cannot reach enforcement. We covered this in the meeting as well. Please provide as much information as possible, so I can properly inform our enforcement, and they can respond by the most efficient means possible. This includes encounters with people/vehicles behind the gates that appear out of place, intoxicated individuals shooting weapons, garbage dumps that block gate access, and illegal timber harvest. Too much information, is better than not enough information.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Good communication and rule compliance will go a long way towards successful hunt programs in areas like those you were granted access. If I do not hear from you until then, enjoy the rest of your hunt,
Brandon Roozen
WDFW Private Lands Biologist
(360) 941-4666
111 Sherman Street
La Conner, WA 98257
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So you can walk back and shoot a coyote but if you drive back and do it, thats a no-no. I would like to see what they do aside from just get mad at you for shooting a coyote that comes into a bear set.
Either way, I'm glad they didn't say anything about bringing drunken spotters. :IBCOOL:
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You Monroe guys are giving us Skagit guys a bad name, I got the same email. :nono:
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Are you sure it wasn't the Skagit guys?
Just kidding around of course. Everyone just needs to be good stewards of the areas we hunt...bag a few bears...and take care of the gates.
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I love drunken spotter's
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Are you sure it wasn't the Skagit guys?
Just kidding around of course. Everyone just needs to be good stewards of the areas we hunt...bag a few bears...and take care of the gates.
We are all Saints, couldn't be us. :chuckle:
I agree though, we have a great spring hunting opporunity here and don't need to lose it. :tup:
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Its been 11 days, what's takin you so long? Sheesh...
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Sorry...heading out Sunday.
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Sorry...heading out Sunday.
:tup: hope you smoke one
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One Skagit hunter emailed me he had passed on a smallish bear.
Also, I emailed Brandon and apologized for my mistake. I also offered to return my gate key if necessary. At least I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused on that, figures I'd be the "lucky" one to actually have a coyote walk up to me though. :rolleyes: I don't want to mess this up for others.
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Hopefully he appreciates you gesture and declines.
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You were granted access to hunt black bears, and black bears only. This does not include coyotes or targets.
:rolleyes: And that's all I will say about that.
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This is a prime example of why certain things should not be posted on a public forum.....It was a coyote people. You would have thought a guy used the key to build a homestead behind the gate. :dunno: :dunno: Absolutely Silly in my opinion :twocents: And for anyone that contacted the person in charge to rat a person out for shooting a coyote....Shame on you!! Next time just take your holier than thou high road and mind your own business.
Johnny
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I agree Johnny. Well said.
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Well, went out and covered more ground yesterday. Did a little exploring up some new to me roads by Lake Rosinger and didn't see any new signs of bear activity. Granted...it was rainy and we didn't get out of the truck a whole lot but it was a nice drive anyway. Over on one of the other parcels we had a chance to chat with one of the logging guys. I've seen him up a few times and always stopped to chatted. He said that he hasn't seen really any sign or activity to speak of. So, just gonna keep exploring and checking things out.
Anyone else see anything over the weekend?
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I saw some strange government activities yesterday while out.
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I saw some strange government activities yesterday while out.
Let me guess they were working :chuckle:
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Nope....well...maybe.
There was a big ol' white van with gov plates. They had a little sandwich board sign that said training in progress. Basically looked like one guy in a ghillie suit, one guy spotting, and another guy with a stick. Didn't see any long guns but the ghillie guy had either a big soft case of a shooting mat. They didn't look real happy to see us driving by....
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I was out Saturday. I went and looked for the bear I saw on day 2 and I found this 5 feet from where I was standing and watching him last week. :bash:
Do bears have a sense of humor? :chuckle: :chuckle:. I will be back now that I know where he is. Second picture is about a half mile away. This poo a few days older. Also saw two grouse and a bobcat. Really nice looking bobcat. I had a crappy camera so I couldnt get a good picture of the grouse. My buddy got some good ones of the grouse and bobcat.
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Some nice poo you found. Looks like you are getting close. Carefull with those horny grouse....they'll come after you if they like the way you look.
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Keep at it guy's, the activity should really pick this week with the nice weather forecast.
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Ripper....let me know when you have some free time....this Wed pm.....this weekend? Let me know.
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h20hunter: I went back out on Sunday (9-1)... saw this fresh peel right on the side of the road on one of the spots I PM'd you last week (the more northern one). I had to take this crappy phone pic, as I forgot my camera battery. This was real fresh, only a day or two old.
There was no new activity on the other set of peels I told you about. After a bit of walking, found another set of 3-4 trees peels (again only 50 yards off the road), so I moved my camera to there.
For both big groups of peels I've found, I've had luck walking the roads... looking for a glimpse of one tree from the road, then working back in to find the rest.
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Thanks for the update...I'm thinking Wed evening may be a good time to head in and look around for myself. If you have any interest in going along just send me a message. I'm always up for a drive. I would say if we go we simply cut a deck to see who carries the rifle. Thanks for posting.
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Thanks for the offer... I'll need to check my schedule for Wed. If I can't make it, I'll PM you gps info.
This is the area I moved my cam to... it's a "bit" more open than the previous spot (the other was growing over with salmonberries), but you can get a sense of how much slash there is from when it was thinned. Like I said in my post on the other thread... this stuff is 2-3 feet deep and a pain to walk through.
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Thanks....I'll give it a go Wed and wee if I can't break an ankle or at least find some new peels.
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I'll check with the Mrs to make sure I have a clear calender. What time were you thinking?
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Hopefully he appreciates you gesture and declines.
Such was the case. He mentioned a "few" incidents so I may not have been the only one. I wonder if picking up elk sheds is a no no. :stirthepot: :chuckle:
I have never hunted an area that had so many GD blackberries choking everything up.... Salmonberries I can moderately deal with but geeze these blackberries are rough. I might try to get out Thursday morning and during the day.
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Lokidog.....If I find a nice shed I'll be picking that baby up! Yep....the blackberrys get to be like a wall. However, when you shoot a bear that has belly stuffed with them in the fall it makes for some nice tasty meat.
Ripper....I'm usually ready to roll out around 5:30....only about a 15 minute drive from the house so I'm flexible on time.
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5:30 will work, I take my son home at 5:00.
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Sweet. My place at 5:30....
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Slow down there big fella, I still need to check the calender. I was just saying the time is good.
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I understand......let me know. I'll be heading out either way so last minute or ahead of time, either way is good.
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The calender is clear, I will be at your place Wed at 5:30.
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Sweet.
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Do you have any area's in particular that you want to check out, or do you want me to show you All the honey holes? :chuckle:
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I'm game for some additional exploring. I remember last year you hunted some nice grassy spots that had fresh sign. That may be a good area to revisit.
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Ok, I know where we are going. You were with me the day we had that deer run up us right? I have a couple of honey holes up there.
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You can't hunt with honey.
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Ok, scratch that plan, I forgot that honey was considered bait. Instead we will have to hunt some sunny, grassy spots. I sure hope that no one planted that grass! :dunno:
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Do you have any area's in particular that you want to check out, or do you want me to show you All the honey holes? :chuckle:
This sounds like a line from an, ahem, "adult cinematic production". You guys are planning on hunting, not "hunting", right?
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Actually, ahem, we're headed up the mountain for some" fishing".
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Actually, ahem, we're headed up the mountain for some" fishing".
How do you get the honey to stay on the hooks? :chuckle:
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I'm going to leave that one alone Boss, time to get this thread back on track. I'll be there at 5:30 with my 357, some knives and a pack. I'll leave the honey and fishing pole at home.
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Damnit H2O!!! I don't check this thread since Friday and you still haven't downed a bear yet?
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Damnit H2O!!! I don't check this thread since Friday and you still haven't downed a bear yet?
:yeah:
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Soon......
Heading out this evening and plan on hunting all weekend. Got a baby on the way any day via the sister in law so that could get in the way. Sheesh...not like my wife (her sister) HAS to be there. Thats what doctors and such are there for. With the nice weather and high temps this weekend I think the bears will be out in force.
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Lol At least your trying h20 I haven't even made it out been so busy with the new born but ill be out this Friday and over the weekend. I've seen more bears in the spring from around 10am-5pm usually. Good luck this evening hope you get A big one
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They should be out and about this evening, supposed to be warm and sunny. I'd like to see the one that left this last year.
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Or this, both are from the area we are going tonight.
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Oh yeah....brother in law is coming along.....we find and pop one we'll have plenty of hands to help.
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Cool, we will have to plan a poker game/bachelor party some time before June 28.
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What a nice evening to be out. Ripper is posted up watching a little draw and im on a stump watching a nice open grassy spot. Mr bear just needs to come walking out. We walked a narrow grassy strip that had lots of scat...day or so old. You could tell where the grass had been eaten. No fresh peels but that means we just didnt see them. Gonna sit till dark then head out.
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Get em
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sooooo...where is the bear?
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I was told no bear.
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No bear.
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:'(
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Did Mr.Bear not got the memo about the appointment at the grassy area? :bash:
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No they didn't get the memo. It was a really nice evening though, didn't even need a jacket. They are starting to move around, eat and poop so it's just a matter of putting in time. Eventually H2O will cross paths with one.
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No bear.
I'm beginning to not be shocked by this news. :chuckle:
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In time....in time. I think we are just getting good in our area. I saw more scat and sign of activity on one walk yesterday than I've seen in all my outings so far.
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Are you heading out tomorrow or did the baby drop? If you go, I'd be watching that clearing in front of where we parked the other day. Good luck.
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I am. Heading out to the lake this evening to play with the trolling housing for the GoPro. Bro in law and I are heading out early. Going to walk the couple of spurs....you know the ones....first thing in the morning. Then I figure to post up on a couple of those clearings. Mid day head into town for lunch and may relocate and hunt/explore a bit more. I've got a few other side spurs I've seen but not walked. Momma says unless the baby is on the way and she is needed to be with her sister I've got the entire weekend to spend in the woods. I predict at least a couple of bears down this weekend. If not me hopefully a few guys will get into them.
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Awesome! I will be fishing all weekend but if you get one down in the eve, gimme a call and I'll try to get away to help. Fingers are crossed.
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Send me some ling pics today and ill see if we cant find a bear.
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How'd the go pro work.
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Good. Need to adjust cam angle to see the gear.
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Pretty dang warm out here. Had some fun.....was in some thicker reprod and had somethinh blowing and wheezing. Making a ruckus but heading away from me. I assume angry bear....didnt sound like any deer ive had blow at me. Gets the heart pumping.
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I get the heart pump every time I run up on a grouse. Glad to hear you're getting close.
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Still out here. Turner is a mile or two away....you never know.
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Had two little bears come out at 30 yards. Maybe last years cubs? Saw me go for the rifle and ran like hell. Not sure if i would have even shot but sure gets the blood pumping!
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:mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:
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:tup: rootin for ya
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Well what's the story today?
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Come one H20 we are pulling for you. Every time I see this thread I keep hoping to see it updated with bear down :IBCOOL:
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Well....odds should be much better for Monroe tag holders. It is hot out there in the woods. The bugs are going full steam and the heat radiating off the roads screams get out, eat, and be ready to breed. So, more about last night. I'm no bear hunting expert so I'll describe a bit about what I THINK I know from last nights hunt. First off....I've been calling a bit last year for bears and after hearing a few bawls I have a better understanding of the sound I'm going for. However...hearing the bawling close by freaks me out and I won't be calling without a back up buddy. Now...I heard these bears on occasion break a stick or two but when they came in they were ninja silent. Granted...they are coming in unalarmed because when they leave in a hurry they are the opposite of ninja. I know from seeing them that these are not small cubs. Last year....early in the general season I helped a site member with his bear. Granted...it was a small bear but it was his first. I would say the two I had at 30 yards were in the 80 to 100 lb range. Small....but not newborn "this year" cubs.
So....the first thing I THINK I know is that since these cubs are soon to be kicked to the curb they should be weaned and momma would be considered a dry sow. I do not want to orphan any cubs. However...if they are that big they should be weaned and okay on their own.
I'd like some opinions on that. Not opinions on would you shoot a sow....opinions on the age and level of survival ability of the little ones.
Next...has anyone ever heard an upset bear make blowing wheezing sound...almost like a deer but much more nasal and loud? When you are solo it sure sounds like a bear even it if is not.
Talked with Turner after the hunt and it sounds like he is doing well. Both he and his son have tags and have the area dialed in. I'm waiting to hear back from a text I got about 45 minutes ago....he and his son think they have one called in at 80 yards below them.
So.....give me some opinions on year and a half old bears. Weaned? Survival chances? Like I said....I DO NOT WANT TO ORPHAN HELPLESS CUBS. I just figure others can benefit from me asking as well as myself. I see 'em again on Tuesday I may whack me a little one. That why we get two tags.
Nothing new this morning but who doesn't love some fresh poo! This stuff was very fresh with plenty of stank left in it.
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Just got a return text from Turner....they think they got winded. His boy....who also has a tag....couldn't get on the bear quick enough.............close though!
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Some nice poo eh?
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For the record I would never shoot a little bear.
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Shoot a little one again.....
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Anytime h20 anytime ...they should be moving well anyday now :tup:
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Shoot a little one again.....
:yeah:
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H2O, my brother and I are hunting this year in Kapowsin. Last Saturday we split up for a few hours and he wound up in some dark reprod. He came across two deer skeletons (pics attached) and then was confronted with what he described as Chewbacha bawling in the woods up and to his left. Said it sounded as though it was 50yds away. With little line of sight in the thick reprod he backed out. When he told me later it was difficult for me to wrap my mind around the sound he was describing.
The next day I went back in alone. After swinging wide through the woods for 4 hrs I swung above the location he told me about - about 6:00pm. Sure enough, from about 200 yds out I heard the same bawling. I got within 100yds and it in fact sounded like Chewbacha but now following that bawling there was another bear huffing. This went on for 10 minutes. I setup hoping they would come into the clearcut as they sounded as though they were right inside the treeline. I circled around but the wind kept changing. Finally backed out. It is a creepy sound. I Googled the Chewbacha sound used in the movies - turns out they used black bear bawls and lion sounds. We hunted that area again yesterday - pressing through the area but didn't find them.
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Yea we had one about 80ft below us in some pretty thick re-prod. We listened to him tearing a stump up, and breaking brush. About a half hour into it My son Errett saw him through a hole in the brush. He could'nt find him in his scope fast enough :bash:. He went silent for Quite awhile, so he either winded us or was taking a nap. Had to be at Ixtapa for My daughters 15th B-day dinner. We saw more sign today than all of the first couple weeks.
H20 I'm not a bear biologist, but have seen bears that size on there own, and have shot one that size myself. I think they would be fine. They will be kicked to the curb in a month anyhow.
I was using a calf elk call that I found in my truck. I don't know if I actually called him in, but I do know it didn't scare him into the next county. :chuckle:
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That's really cool H2O, I hope you bag one soon. Were you up in the same area we were in?
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Thanks for the input Turner.
Ripper....I was hunting about a mile away from Turner on some Campbell property. Saturday early am we walked those couple of paths. We went quite a ways into the alders and didn't see any new sign. Same the other path. No new scat or sign that wasn't there the daty or so before.
I'm going to try about get out for some evening hunts, however, with a new niece due any day my wife is only a phone call away from having to be there for her sister. I was going to ask if she minded if I take both kids with me but decided against it. Have one angry woman (sister in law to be in labor soon) plenty.
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Sounds like you guys are getting close. :tup: I keep hoping to see one on here every time I log on. No luck for me. Couldnt get out this weekend but hopefully this week some time.
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You need to shot one of those bears no matter what the size. WDFW gave you a damage tag so you shouldn't be selective shoot any bear you can to prevent further tree damage. Hopefully you really help out and shoot a female too.
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Oh D........you are going to get folks all riled up now!
*disclaimer: D-Rock425 is simply :stirthepot:
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You where given a job to do now let's get after it! :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:
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I will......I will.....sheesh. Push pushy. You are just jealous that you don't have the tag again!
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You need to shot one of those bears no matter what the size. WDFW gave you a damage tag so you shouldn't be selective shoot any bear you can to prevent further tree damage. Hopefully you really help out and shoot a female too.
D-Rock has a valid point here. You should get a gold star for shooting a sow with cubs as it will ensure there are 2-4x fewer bears in the area to do damage as a result of your efforts. Also, you're probably saving children in Lynnwood from bears that will venture out on their playgrounds someday.
On a serious note I have most of this week and DEFINITELY this weekend free. Let me know if you want some support, moral or otherwise. I know of a Campbell gate that would be excellent if your key is working there.
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Will do Stang.
In all seriousness.....I do agree that the tag means kill a bear. I am not holding out for trophy. I don't want to orphan cubs. I'll shoot a 100 lb'er if I get the chance.
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Yeah save the children :tup:
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I'm all about (saving) the children.
Wait....that sounds bad.
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You meant all about saving children.
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I do have SEVERAL trail cameras that would be a shame not to set up. Let me know and we'll start bolting cameras to trees. :tup: DEATH TO TREES! :yike: (JK, just minor pain)
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I showed H2O a couple of good spots to hang camera's. Now we just have to get him to do it Stang.
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Need to go back again...check for fresh sign.
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Well.....sat on the same area and haven't had any new encounters. I know there are bears moving in the area...just not the few hours I've been out the last two nights. I did have a quail running around in front of me for about 20 minutes which was cool. The sister in law had her baby last night so I'm shut down for a few days while the wife attends to her and the baby. Got big plans on Saturday night so I'm fairly well shut down for a few days while the dust settles. Some nice bears being taken...the brute up north..couple really nice ones in the NE.....us Monroe guys need to get one down. While I'm out of the woods I'm counting on one you guys to nail one.
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Congrats to the parents of the new baby. I would imagine the bears are getting more active every day. Hit it hard when you get free again.
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Will do....this weekend I'm taking the wife to Willows in Woodinville and then next weeekend I'm getting out of the woods and on the water for some ling fishing.
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this thread is killing me!
Can't stand the suspense. Go get a bear so I can sleep at night again!!
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LOL funny reading LOL. I need to see more Spring Bear Pic's.
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Oh...forgot to mention this....kind of random.
So....I get my gate unlocked and am driving in and notice the grass off to the left is trampled. Considering it is so close to the road I'm thinking somebody chucked a TV back there or something. Irritated thinking I'm gonna be hauling more garbage than dead bear I take a look. Well, there is a little fresh mound of dirt, a little wooden cross, and some wilting flowers. Now, I'm cool with putting your pet in the ground with some respect but off the side of the road on private property? Maybe the owner of said pet loved walking up their or somehting....I don't know....
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Need to go back again...check for fresh sign.
Take DRock with you.
Tomorrow.
Preferably around the time the Zen Ray auction ends. :chuckle:
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Got to see the chiro tomorrow. The road driving and stump/stool sitting is killing my back. Sorry...just out bid that boy.
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I'm still watching.
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H20, if you dont call me this weekend, i'm going to be furious and work on the boat/outboard I just bought instead.
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Stang......I don't want you to get your hopes up......Sunday evening may be my only chance to hunt this weekend. We could go hang some cams in the afternoon and make a half day hunt out of it.
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If I have to hike up and set cams for you I will... but I'll be 2x as furious. :bdid:
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You are so much more cute when you try and put on your big boy stern face.
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You are so much more cute when you try and put on your big boy stern face.
Watch yor back there stang, he just called you "cute" and in another post he was talking about crabs...
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You are so much more cute when you try and put on your big boy stern face.
Watch yor back there stang, he just called you "cute" and in another post he was talking about crabs...
I also have text messages that prove that he thinks about me while on the can. Maybe I'm busy this weekend. :yike:
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This is special :chuckle:
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This is special :chuckle:
D-Rock, isn't H20 going to be staying with you at Elk camp this fall? Watch yourself, especially if he brings a banjo...
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:chuckle:
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Stang....you almost got a text about 3 minutes ago. No kidding. I need to eat some roughage.....
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Just pls dont shake that bear....
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I bring my own banjos :IBCOOL:
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D.....new avatar is sweet.
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It is pretty awesome.
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Drock is it russian Usanka? (fur hat) on your head ? Priceless :chuckle:
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Yep camo and fur.
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How's the little one? Home from hospital yet? Give them a :tup: from me.
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Pink and healthy. They should be home tomorrow.
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Healthy baby means we can go bear hunt tomorrow right?
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Nope.....got a trip to Willows in Woodinville on the scheduled for the wife and I....grandma staying with the wee ones.....she has a massage booked and I'll be sitting on a bar stool at RedHook instead of a camp stool in the woods.
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:bash: :bdid:
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Bad idea? Are you crazy! Keeping the wife happy keeps me in the woods.
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Hoping to see a dead bear on here soon :camp:
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Hoping to see a dead bear on here soon :camp:
you won't he's to busy fishing and being Mr romantic.
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Hoping to see a dead bear on here soon :camp:
you won't he's to busy fishing and being Mr romantic.
I know something romantic and masculine, BEAR HUNTING. What a better way to demonstrate your value to a significant other than to take them out and kill a bear with them as your witness. (and take me)
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Mr. Romance is right.....
Stang....isn't your girl gone yet? I've offered to take the wife on a "hunt" but remember....we are only supposed to be using our keys for bear hunting.
Monday...after work....leave my place at 5:30.....go kill a bear. Lets go.
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The bears will be dead or asleep by 530 lol
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The bears will be dead or asleep by 530 lol
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Hope your hunting today ...weather is perfect :tup:
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Nope....fishing. Sorry.
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Nope....fishing. Sorry.
I'm busy Monday. Have fun fishing. Maybe there'll be a bear in the lake.
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Nope....fishing. Sorry.
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Fishing is for people without bear permits.
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Fishing is for people without bear permits.
I had a similar dilemma today... bear or razor clams... guess which I limited on.
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Fishing is for people without bear permits.
Or If you filled your tag already. :chuckle:
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Bear steak or kokanee fillets?....Bear steak or kokanee fillets?....... I am taking the kokanee fillets :drool:
You have August through mid November to kill a bear :stirthepot:
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Fishing is for people without bear permits.
:yeah:
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I have not tagged out. I will...in time. Drock is just jealous....
Besides.....id take a visit to willows over the woods any day!
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I have not tagged out. I will...in time. Drock is just jealous....
Besides.....id take a visit to willows over the woods any day!
man card in revoked.
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Mmm hmmm....man card NOT revoked. Such jealousy.........besides.....you were invited but since I didn't get a reply I assumed you were down the street at the other party.
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You can fish any day you can hunt bears in the spring a few times :hunter: lol
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I can start a poll I'm pretty sure its revoked.
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Willows? :dunno:
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Willows? :dunno:
place for yuppies
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Willows Lodge in Woodinville. Next to the Red Hook Brewery an the St. Michelle winery. Swanky place yet very very comfortable. A place that when you check in they offer you wine and when you say no thanks, I'm more of a beer guy they get you a tall frosty Hef on the house in about 15 seconds. The kind of place that has soaking tubs your wife can stretch out in. We try and go once a year.
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Willows? :dunno:
place for yuppies
Just googled "willows place for yuppies", found this...
http://www.willowslodge.com/ (http://www.willowslodge.com/)
If this is the place, there has to be a mistake. No way would they let H2O in unless he said he was there to fix a toilet or something.
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Looks like a nice place, but at this time of the year, with a bear tag in pocket, I'd only go there to remove a problem bear. Enough of the stalling, time to get out and kill something! Go on now, get your ass out in the woods! I have more places to show you so call me!
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That's the place Joe.....
I'll be out next week working on the bear killing.
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You hunting today?
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Sadly, no. Smokey the cat is in need of a vet visit that can't wait. He may not be coming home. Gonna be a sad evening for me if that is the case. He is a good one. Has always been good with the kids, let them both climb all over him and pull on his tail, face, ears, whatever...never one hiss. I will be out Wednesday.
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I hope to see a picture of a dead bear :tup: Good luck, and keep the press on :IBCOOL:
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I hope to see a picture of a dead bear :tup: Good luck, and keep the press on :IBCOOL:
I agree, I hope to see a dead bear soon! I've only been lurking on this thread, but been hoping to see a dead bear! Keep at it and good luck
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Thanks......the last week with the sis in law and the new baby, mothers day and family time, and now the vet trip this evening has just been not a good time for hunting. I'll keep at it.
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Sorry to hear about the cat. Hope it pulls through.
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It's all about the priorities, and I am sure you have them straight! Oh yeah and finding time in between all those priorities....good luck!
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This thread is becoming more and more boring. So many excuses, so little hunting. I feel like I'm reading TMZ, redneck version. I dont give a crap about your life, I care about BEARS.
So what if your cat needed a colonoscopy, I DONT CARE! Don't fill this thread with useless nonsense about how your hair is a different shade, how you bought a new pair of shoes and its your special time of the month. GO KILL A BEAR *&#%@!
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Your face is boring. Gonna hunt tomorrow.
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Wow
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How's Mr kitty?
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Gone. He was a good one. 16 years.
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Sorry to hear that.
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I say we kill a bear in Mr Kitty's honor :dunno:
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I'll be happy to assist tomorrow if you'd like company. Let me know and I can be free after work.
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Gone. He was a good one. 16 years.
Sorry to hear about your cat H20. A work partner of mine is home now having his German Shepard put down. That part of pet ownership sucks.
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Pets are funny things. I've always preached that one must do what is right for the animal, not what is right for the owner. Sure is a beyotch to follow through. The kids spent some extra time yesterday during the day knowing that I would have to make a decision when we went in. It was strange....I've taken the life of animals and been sad for the loss of life but thankfull for the ability to be the one to take it. Yesterday was much harder. He was the exception to the typical rule about cats. He was good with my kids when they were just babies and toddlers. They would climb on him, pull him across the floor by his hide, poke, prod, and geneally harass him. Never a nip or a hiss. As my son got a bit older he and the cat became pretty tight. The cats favorte place used to be with me....the last few years it was across my sons lap while they would watch cartoons. The vet was very good to us both. They asked how much time I needed and when asked to be quick they were. He was given a sedative while the IV was placed then brought back in to me. When the shot was placed in the IV he went amazingling fast...simply laid down. The second shot was given and his heart beat a few more times then just stopped.
Stang.....going out tomorrow. Either going to sit or walk a road that has sign....same place Turner and his son have almost closed the deal. I belive they are going out this evening so that will somewhat determine where I hunt. You are more than welcome to come along.
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Great, now I feel like a D-Bag (different than a D-Rock, but not by much) for making fun of your cat visit. Sorry to hear of the pet loss.
If its a "I walk alone" hunt that is fine. If you want company let me know. It is either walking roads or walking on a revolving track at the gym. Let me know, I can do either. Shoot me a text.
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Text sent....D-bag or not, lets go hunt.
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Sorry about the kitty D. It sounds like you did good by him. I'm sure there is some bear karma waiting for you in the woods now.
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I'll take some karma.....now whatch me whack one and get all emotional. Good thing Stang is so cute......I hate crying on guys shoulders unless they are much hotter and more girly than I am.
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I feel for ya Dev, we had to put our cat down last year. He went exactly the same way as yours. It was tough. I know it's not macho to say you got emotional over a cat, but so what. Ours was exceptionally cool also. I still miss him.
Now go kill a bear!
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Sadly, no. Smokey the cat is in need of a vet visit that can't wait. He may not be coming home. Gonna be a sad evening for me if that is the case. He is a good one. Has always been good with the kids, let them both climb all over him and pull on his tail, face, ears, whatever...never one hiss. I will be out Wednesday.
Keep in mind I can give 9 new cats in a few weeks just let me know! They are those barn certified type of cats. :tup:
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Thats a big NOPE....We (I) am done with the house pet for a bit. No space for a dog....not ready for another cat. A nice snake sounds good. Not a lot of attachment to reptiles. The boy wants a ball python...has for about two years...maybe next year.
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Thats a big NOPE....We (I) am done with the house pet for a bit. No space for a dog....not ready for another cat. A nice snake sounds good. Not a lot of attachment to reptiles. The boy wants a ball python...has for about two years...maybe next year.
Ball pythons are kind of cool. My daughter wanted one when she was younger, until she realized what they had to be fed. :chuckle:
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Ok dude, now the pressures on. A Monroe bear was knocked down by a kid yesterday. You better get busy!
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10-4. I've met the young man and sad to say he is a bit more accomplished than I! Cool young man and not half bad fella for a dad. I got a text once they had hands on...very cool. Stang and I will be out this evening. Got two spots in mind...one where I almost had the shot and the other is where Turners son, the same young man, almost had a shot.
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Blah blah blah let's see some blood finally. We need to start are elk scouting and if you keep dinking around with stupid bears its going to greatly effect your elk season success.
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He will get one the next time I hunt with him. I've got one ready to be harvested, he just has to call.
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All tied up to the tree.......you got plans Sunday afternoon evening? If we don't bag one tonight that is my next planned hunt.
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Maybe you should hire Barbour Outfitters to help you out.
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THAT OK I GOT IT HANDLED WILL KEEP HUNT WITH SOLO AND FRIENDS AND WILL TAG ONE OR NOT WE WILL SEE THINGS CAN BE BUSY AND WILL TRY BUT TAG NO GUARANTEE GONNA SHOOT THE FIRST ONE I SEE I KILLT ONLY ONE IN THE PAST BUT JUST WANT TO FILL TAG U KNOW
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Why are you yelling?
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I plan on going out to the San Juans this weekend but it's weather and wind dependent. I'll have to let you know closer to the time. I'll try to confirm by Friday.
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No worries.....my plans flexible based on weather as well.
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Why are you yelling?
He forgot to come out of character from the Barbour Outfitters post. :chuckle:
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Sorry about that. It is infectious.....I even said I was going to quit.
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Should I stop by my storage unit and pick up my meat packin pack or are you going to shoot one right off the logging road? What is your confidence level this evening. Also, why do you plan your hunts so freakin far apart. You are missing Thursday, Friday, and Sat... all viable days. Why are you skipping them.
Family can wait, you have a bear tag with an expiration date!
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Valid
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I think droopyville needs to be checked out :dunno:
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I'm gonna fish and get some lings come hell or high water on Saturday....Gonna shoot one right on the road and drive right up to it....or down in a hell hole. Grab your meat pack just in case...I'll have a bigger pack and the cart.
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I'll be on call I guess if you need a packer.
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I'm pretty good at spotting bears from the vehicle.
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Come along this evening....
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Not sure I'll make it tonight got some range work to do.
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Got it.....Stang and I didn't want you along anyway. Just more noise. I'll call when we get one down.
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Yeah I know you guys need your alone time.
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Uggh, my head hurts from the bildo/barbour guide service page. If you need a extra pack, i have one near you. Good luck. The unit is heating up!
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Thanks.....fingers crossed...you never know.
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Yup, mine are crossed for you.
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No bears
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TAHTS BACEUSE HE PORBOLLY SPNET TEH WOHLE EVINENING IN FORUNT OF HSI COMPEUTER ANTGASTINIZING AN INFMAEOUS GIUED.
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I say we kill a bear in Mr Kitty's honor :dunno:
Agree.
Kill it already
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About the only thing we came close to killing was a bunny. Yes it was in the road...no I didn't smoosh it. Stang and I made good time meeting up and getting the gear squared away. First headed up to my little corner and checked the cam. Got a lot of sign and some new pics but looked like the sow with the three little cubs has been using the area for bedding down at night. Nice to see the pics but nothing shootable in there right now. Granted, she or the cubs kicked the hell out of my flamingos again but we got them set back up and they are now happy once again. Headed around the corner and walked a road that looks very promising. There were some freshly broken over trees and lots of scat. Some serious piles up here. We saw some pretty serious game trails and think that I need to go back and slow hunt this area some more. I think the chances of finding a bear in the open are fairly decent. It was pretty steady drizzle and light rain which made walking quiet but also made it harder to pick out sounds in the brush. Good hunt, saw some deer, got out at least, did some more driving at the very end....all good. Stang, I've got your jacket drying out in the garage.
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Keep at it. I got skunked also on Tuesday.
I hear you with the drizzle and picking up sounds. For me, it's a wash rain vs. sun for hearing. With the sun, I always pick up a fly or two buzzing around my head. I'm not sure what's worse, fly buzzing or drip, drip, dip.
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Oh...another thing that was pretty interesting. There were some smaller trees....an inch or two...that were recently snapped off. Not cut, snapped. I'm thinking a bear was marking or just being a silly bear. One other spot along the road it was a little chewed up and quite a bit of hair on the ground. Not sure if it could have been a bear scuffle or simply one rubbing on the gravel.
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Bears are safe all weekend :bash:
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They are smarter than us... even the bunny is.
H20, is that my waterproof jacket?
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Rookies
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Yep....got it drying out in the garage and I'll keep it safe for yah.
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I like your technique H2O. You are letting them fatten up a bit before you put one down. Who wants a skinny, right out of the den bear anyway? We'll get you one soon enough. Not a skinny one either.
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Thanks for the support. Not like the D-Rock character.....nothing but grief.
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Horrible idea :bash:
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He's pretty hard on you, but don't worry, I got your back!
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How is your camera situation? I have about a half dozen of them sitting in my den with nothing better to do if you want to borrow them.
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We have to start are elk scouting stop messing around. I'm not just going to walk you right to elk you need to work a little bit.
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Its solid. I've got only one out but Stang is sitting on about six that he wants to get out....Ripper has some area he is wanting to get back out and explore...my only issue now is getting all the hunts in combined with warding off D-Rocks overwhelming jealousy, my need for some fishing time, and working. I know...work can wait blah blah blah. I appreciate the offer Rob.
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cool. set up enough of them and you could do one of those animation flip books!
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Yeah then maybe you could start scrapbooking instead of hunting you yuppie.
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Heck yeah....I would love to do some scrapbooking. My wife has all the stuff. I could make some really lovely pages with all my ideas.
Also....ever since the hunt last night I can't get the Tiffany song "I think we are alone now" outta my head. Thanks a ton Stang.
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Sounds great! I promise to be nice fropm now on.
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Mmmm Hmmmm....we'll see.
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I dont have time to read all 21 pages......where is the dead bear that goes on this thread :dunno: :dunno: did they make you take down the flamingo decoys, do they fall under baiting now, have you been wearing your bacon undergarments.....come on man...there is supposed to be a dead bear here.....just saying ;)
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That's what we all want to know run but he's to busy doing yuppie stuff instead of killing bears.
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Oops I promised to be nice that didn't last long.
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I'm trying to get him on one that I was eying last year Run. He just has too many distractions right now. Oh yea, and he's letting them fatten up before he kills one.
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I would not go back and read the whole thread...it will make your head hurt. In a nutshell I have kept the flamingos in place. I feel that they give the animals a false sense of security. Bears and flamingos have long had a symbiotic relationship that few understand. The dead bear unfortunately has only shown up in threads belonging to children and ladies. I do not belive the flamingos are considered baiting. However, the oats that sprouted along with the "throw-n-grow" I planted for the flamingos is a favorite of the bears. They have pulled up and eaten almost all of them, roots and all. Alas, I've had to replace the bacon undergarments with some more mouisture wicking. I went to the non butcher cut bacon but still had some chafing problems. I understand the concept of the bear being dead....I have almost...almost done the deal. I've seen the bear...I've seen the hair....I've seen the poo. Now...I just need to put them all together.
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You all need to do more blasting instead of "eying"
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I see...well I am waiting impatiently for an image of some form of dead bear hopefully posed next to flamingos just because that would rock....
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Now that the flamingos are back in action....Stang helped me get them back on their little metal rod feet....we should have some action. I'm hoping that the momma with the three little ones quits hanging out there......she is a non shooter and the cubs would barely make a pie cozie.
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They would make a cool mount :tup:
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Oooh yeah! A cub with a flamingo in it's mouth. That would be precious! :chuckle:
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Imagine the grief I would get if I shot a little bity cub. They are way to cute....I couldn't do it.
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You can kill a cub but you have to do it with a knife.
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cubs make great boxer shorts. Fur in.
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Slippers or banana hammock....
I say twin blonde cubs last year, cute as heck as they tried to climb brush and get up away from me, only to have it bend to the ground from there weight...
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Thats not itchy?
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Thats not itchy?
Thats why you use cubs, not adults... velvet fur
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Good point.
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They would make a cool mount :tup:
or a hat :tup:
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Its solid. I've got only one out but Stang is sitting on about six that he wants to get out....Ripper has some area he is wanting to get back out and explore...my only issue now is getting all the hunts in combined with warding off D-Rocks overwhelming jealousy, my need for some fishing time, and working. I know...work can wait blah blah blah. I appreciate the offer Rob.
Fishing, are you CRAZY h2ohunter! You have a spring bear permit, the sea is full of fish that will be there later.
How do you call yourself a bear hunter, thinking about chasing fish? :chuckle: :bash:
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Its solid. I've got only one out but Stang is sitting on about six that he wants to get out....Ripper has some area he is wanting to get back out and explore...my only issue now is getting all the hunts in combined with warding off D-Rocks overwhelming jealousy, my need for some fishing time, and working. I know...work can wait blah blah blah. I appreciate the offer Rob.
Fishing, are you CRAZY h2ohunter! You have a spring bear permit, the sea is full of fish that will be there later.
How do you call yourself a bear hunter, thinking about chasing fish? :chuckle: :bash:
Lingcod is open till June 15th....bear hunting is open till Nov. 15th...the woods are full of bears that will be there later :chuckle:
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When it opens in august smossy and i will leave 2 fewer bears for you guys to hunt. It would be awesome to get some go-pro footage of the bear hunt. My buddy gave a beautiful chocolate bear a dirt nap yesterday. :stirthepot:
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My buddy gave a beautiful chocolate bear a dirt nap yesterday. :stirthepot:
any pictures? what unit? love the color phase bears..
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Skagit. Not a member, and not mine to post. Sorry.
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cubs make great boxer shorts. Fur in.
You could make a nice half shirt, but a belly piercing, and a TRAMP stamp would be required. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Skyhigh, pm sent
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Can you do stang and I a favor next year? Don't bother putting in for bear tags if your just going to fish every weekend.
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Oh shut it.
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Oh don't go all Bobby on me now I'm kidding.
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My heart broke just a little bit right there. All Bobby.....sheesh!
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I hope he don't come on here anymore.
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I think it has been awhile....
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H20 please kill a bear soon this thread is killing me lol
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Working on it. I'm going to go for a quick hunt Monday evening...gonna walk a road that had lots of new sign....then back out Wednesday...
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what are you going back out for on weds? Your going to kill one Monday!!!!!!!!!! You might think about being nice to Drock he can help you connect...AGAIN :yike:
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I could probably go on Monday if you want me too.
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Yeah be nice to me yuppie
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This is like a soap opera or bad reality show.
You two just kiss and make up already, D-rock i think it might be H20's time of the month so he is touchy with words...... :cryriver:
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Most folks wouldn't talk to me....however....cool wife, good bbq, boat owner.....those things help.
Ripper....I'm working until 6 on monday and will probably only have an hour to walk....gonna be a very quick trip. How is your weekend looking for the 25th or 26th?
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Ripper....I'm working until 6 on monday and will probably only have an hour to walk....gonna be a very quick trip. How is your weekend looking for the 25th or 26th?
Ripper, Just tell him you're busy. He's going fishing anyway. I don't even know why he asked what you were doing
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:chuckle:
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Most folks wouldn't talk to me....however....cool wife, good bbq, boat owner.....those things help.
Ripper....I'm working until 6 on monday and will probably only have an hour to walk....gonna be a very quick trip. How is your weekend looking for the 25th or 26th?
So if you only have an hour are you really gonna kill a bear if you see one? :dunno: That would make you late for your pedi or waxing appoint or whatever you have going on....
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Yep.....I'll shoot it and get my butt on the phone to call in help. Not gonna pass one up just because it will be a late night.
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I just signed up to work Memorial Day weekend. I could cancel and hunt with you but it would cost you $2085.72. :yike: I know that may seem like a lot for a 3 day hunt, but Boeing seems to think I'm worth it. :chuckle: I am really good company!
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Dang...this guy hunts, fishes, crabs, checks trail cams, or fabricates outdoor equipment every week and you're still throwing him crap??? :dunno:
I think it's time for the "yuppie" hater to step up to H20 and get this over with already...just remember your step stool, it's an awfully long reach from that far down. :tup:
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Yeah he does it all but kills.
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Seems like it some times.....
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At least he trays hard
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We can't all make it look easy like me.
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This thread should be made a sticky :tup:
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This thread should be made a sticky :tup:
Wait long enough and it will be sticky.....like the pages of , oh nevermind...
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This thread should be made a sticky :tup:
Wait long enough and it will be sticky.....like the pages of , oh nevermind...
you just had to go there....and notice I am not allowing it to go un...un.....ummmm whats the word......
just note who's commenting on this.....
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As long as it is entertaining.
Run....sweet shed you got there.
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I know right its a booner....not to be confused with the similar word containing one less "O"
h20 shouldnt you be out killing a bear right about now :dunno:
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: C'mon, just get the damn bear!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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At least I'm at work now instead of fishing or sitting around sipping beer.
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bummers both beer sipping and fishing are way better uses of time in my opinion
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I don't completely disagree...that is why I'll be out chasing lings tomorrow and probably Sunday. Many passions...
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It's been 2.5 days since the last post on this thread. I'm going to go against my instincts (sarcasm) and guess no bear yet?
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Him and D-rock are on honeymoon! :chuckle:
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:nono:
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Got about 2 hours after work...ill be out.
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:nono:
If that is what you two were doing, I'd recommend sunscreen, and washing your finger before you eat. :dunno:
:sry:
Now it is time to get your man-cards back and kill a bear.
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If that is what you two were doing, I'd recommend sunscreen, and washing your finger before you eat. :dunno:
:yike: That made me laugh out loud! :chuckle:
This thread is entertaining, but now it needs blood!
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Him and D-rock are on honeymoon! :chuckle:
Whoa! Wasn't expecting that. Honeymoon huh? Congrats? Who's the Mr and who's the Mrs?
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Him and D-rock are on honeymoon! :chuckle:
Whoa! Wasn't expecting that. Honeymoon huh? Congrats? Who's the Mr and who's the Mrs?
jealous
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If you want to see how to get it done flip over to Rufous thread. He just bagged a nice redish/brown color phase.
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Him and D-rock are on honeymoon! :chuckle:
Which one is the man, and which one is the man wife? :chuckle: :dunno:
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No bear tonight....only got about an hour and a half in. Nice evening, saw a real pretty buck with nice horn growth not 40 yards from the truck. Watched him for a few before heading out.
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Were you in the tree farm somewhere else?
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Tree farm
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:tdown:
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:tdown:
:yeah:
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This thread needs some life so someone needs to start posting up some pic's of something. Anything. Here is some sign I saw on a hike the other day.
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Ooops, how'd that last one get in there? :dunno: That was from 3 years ago not 3 day's ago! :rolleyes:
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Oops indeed! Still a nice bear.
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I was so excited when this thread started, now its just 24 pages of a wasted opportunity. :bash:
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You just made it 25 :bash:
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It's only 13 pages for me
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Stang, what do you mean wasted opportunity? We've gotten to hear about H20 taking the wife to fancy places to eat, hear about him catching a few kokanee, hear about his inability to get Smossy on a ling, and the latest item of note. Apparently H20 and D-Rock went on a short honeymoon.
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When you going out next H20? I'll have to see if I can get away one eve.
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Stang, what do you mean wasted opportunity? We've gotten to hear about H20 taking the wife to fancy places to eat, hear about him catching a few kokanee, hear about his inability to get Smossy on a ling, and the latest item of note. Apparently H20 and D-Rock went on a short honeymoon.
Haha
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Apparently H20 and D-Rock went on a short honeymoon.
Yea they did! Did you see the finger swirl D-Rock gave him? :yike: :chuckle:
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Not even sure what a finger swirl is?
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:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:
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Remember this post by headshot5 a couple of pages back?
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:nono:
If that is what you two were doing, I'd recommend sunscreen, and washing your finger before you eat. :dunno:
:sry:
Now it is time to get your man-cards back and kill a bear.
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Oooooo...
No thank you.
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Yea they did! Did you see the finger swirl D-Rock gave him?
I have been waiting for h20hunter to update the title from "30 yard encounter" to "physical encounter... but no bears sighted."
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Still waiting.
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Stang, what do you mean wasted opportunity? We've gotten to hear about H20 taking the wife to fancy places to eat, hear about him catching a few kokanee, hear about his inability to get Smossy on a ling, and the latest item of note. Apparently H20 and D-Rock went on a short honeymoon.
:yeah:
this thread is an annual epic journey and might even end with a dead bear :chuckle: :chuckle:
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We'll see how it goes this evening. Rain or shine I'll be out after work. Keep your fingers crossed for good weather. Taking the brother in law with me Friday evening and then have a long weekend to hunt.
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Where are you hunting tonight?
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I plan on hunting a place called "bear rock".........name given by Turner and his boy. A small perch similiar to what we called the rock. Really it is going to be weather pending. I've got a small pop up portable that I can sit in and try and stay out of the elements. I'll only have a short hunt again because of work schedule.
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You find and kill a bear this weekend. Dinker and I will go scout out some elk for you. Plan on hanging my camera over there and searching out a few more blind locations.
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Will do....I plan on being out as much as possible until Monday afternoon....then it will family time and bbq.
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You just hang out and BBQ Dinker and I will do all the grunt work of scouting elk. You'll just have toshow up and shoot one come sept. It will be like a yuppie guided hunt for you.
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Perfect. I'm going to need you to gut it also. I don't wanna get all yucky.
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I know. I'll take care of you big buddy.
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I plan on hunting a place called "bear rock".........name given by Turner and his boy. A small perch similiar to what we called the rock. Really it is going to be weather pending. I've got a small pop up portable that I can sit in and try and stay out of the elements. I'll only have a short hunt again because of work schedule.
what you gonna melt :dunno: :chuckle:
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Yep. I'm very fragile.
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Truly a yuppie :chuckle:
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Yep. I'm very fragile.
H20, you really are a transplant aren't you. No one that has grown up in the PNW would take a portable shelter out for a short afternoon hunt. Especially with it being as warm as it is.
Come on, put your big boy pants on and face the elements!
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Yuppie
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You wanna see me fragile get me back to the midwest where my roots are. I swear....being out here since 99 has got me whipped. I visit Illinois in the summer and the heat/humidity combo just kills me. I'll never move back if I can help it. This is my home. I don't need the cold winters or the sauna summers. Now...a little comfort is nice when in the woods regardless. Kind of like taking nice TP from home and not using the rough stuff. It's the little things. I've got plenty of time in the elements but once can always be smart about it. The dryer I stay they dryer my boots are the next time.
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I'll be waiting for a phone call tonight.
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I'll be waiting for a phone call tonight.
Seems like you wait by the phone a lot hoping for H20 to call. Your very patient... ;)
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Yeah. I keep waiting for the bear down phone call but honestly I'm starting to think he may not get it done.
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Gotta believe.....
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Gotta believe.....
I believe your going to be comfortable. What color is your shelter? Just curious...
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Pink and orange camo with Hello Kitty highlights.
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Like I said I'm losing faith.
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I still believe in you big guy! Git-R-Done home boy.
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Thanks buddy.....I'm feeling good about this weekend. I've got lots of time to spend putting boots on the ground. To bad I can't afford your holiday pay rate or I'd have you out with me.
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He has me wondering as well. I think you need to go silence all of us critics!
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Will sure try. Gonna make D-Rock wear the hide around the woods for a few hours.
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I have another spot I want to show you. We should meet one day after work and see if your key works at that gate. Since I get up at 4:00 am for work, I don't want to stay till dark but at least I could show you the spot. I found great sign there last year.
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That's it. I am moving to Marysville. You guys are just too cool to be living 3hrs away
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You know how I roll Doublej....
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That's it. I am moving to Marysville. You guys are just too cool to be living 3hrs away
DON'T DO IT :sry:
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Well after 26 pages I need to see BLOOD and a pictures of a BEAR DOWN. Go out and hunt your burning day light. LOL
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You know how I roll Doublej....
OK, I have to admit. H20 is a very likeable guy. He seems to be OK with my dogs. Which says a lot about a guy. He's big enough to be a good elk quarter packer if needed. I didn't ask him for help with my last elk, but I'm sure he'd a been there if I would have asked. He always seems to have a positive attitude. Though I've never been with him on a hunting or fishing trip, I'm sure the company is good. The only thing I'll reserve judgement on is that some of his hunting approaches seem a bit off.
I'll drink a cold one with him any time despite his loyalty to team Jacob (I had to google who Jacob is when that was first said).
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well I live over hereon the dry side and walked to school in pouring rain all week its awesome lots of puddles to stomp in.....we also get ticks which used to freak me out now I just pick em off and squish em, and really I am very soft.....lol
go kill a bear
do we need to get cheerleaders to start a round for you.....a little bouncy happy go team maybe :dunno: :dunno:
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do we need to get cheerleaders to start a round for you.....a little bouncy happy go team maybe :dunno: :dunno:
I think D-Rock has that covered. :rolleyes:
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do we need to get cheerleaders to start a round for you.....a little bouncy happy go team maybe :dunno: :dunno:
I think D-Rock has that covered. :rolleyes:
so is it a skirt or a kilt he wears when he cheers? cuz a kilt might be bad, rumor on facebook has it that guys who wear kilts forgo the whole concept of underwear....at least with a skirt he could cover up with some spanks :dunno:
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Even though a kilt would be very comforable I don't see myself wearing one.
Well....the weather was poor and it was great for my evening hunt. I started the hunt on a road that leads up to the perch that Turner calls bear rock. It was raining pretty heavy on and off on the way out but things settled down nicely. This is the same road that Stang and I walked. With all the recent rain it was hard to tell which scat was old and which was new. There were some fairly large piles that had been there for a while and some fresher stuff that may have been driven on in the last two days. I didn't see any gut piles so not sure if it was hunters or not. There was the same old patch of bear fur in one section and a few more indications of crossings. By this time in the hunt it was not raining a drop, no wind, no bugs, and almost earily calm. I was walking as gently and slowly as I could but the squish seemed to be very loud. I would take a step, listen, step listen. Nothing. I figure if there was a bear in the area I would have heard him from a ways off. It took about an hour to go maybe 3/4 of a mile just slow hunting along. Every now and then I'd hear a tweety bird flutter but that was about it. I did venture down another old grassy road with some nice low growth reprod. Lots of little trails throughout this stuff and I know of one bear that was killed in "the bowl" at the end of the road. There was a little more ground cover to walk along and it was once again silent. Nothing moving. It was great. I could hear my own heart pick up every time anything moved. I wasn't seeing any sign in this area but to tell you the truth...I didn't care. I kept walking along, keeping my eyes moving, going slow, enjoying the hunt. At about 8:45 I turned back and worked my way back to the truck. Made it back a little after full dark and headed out. No bears but stayed pretty dry and had a nice hunt.
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Same old story no bears. This thread is dead to me.
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Yeah right....I give you less than 5 min before posting on it again. You can't stay away....you have to look.....you have to post....you want it to continue.
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Same old story no bears. This thread is dead to me.
omg this made my morning :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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That's all you can do H20, just keep at it. Just remember to keep the wind in your face and be as quiet as possible. If you think you are walking slow enough, slow down even more. Use your binoculars! Glass, glass glass! Take some pic's while you're out. People love pic's, it helps keep their interest. You said at times you could hear your heartbeat, now you know how I feel all the time!
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I'll post up a pic of where I was talking about in a few....gotta get it off the phone. You may remember this stretch.....you, Frank, and I walked it. It forks and the left goes to the bowl, the right curves down and around a little bit. Here is the pic. It was just dead silence.
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How did the pink and orange camo with Hello Kitty shelter work for you?
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Never popped out the shelter. Stayed on the move, explored, hunted. The evening was to calm and still to waste it sitting in one place.
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Fawns are dropping. Might want to consider doing a little calling if you get a chance. Might pull one to you.
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Pink and orange camo with Hello Kitty highlights.
So you were planning to road hunt in the FJ.... :chuckle:
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Good point about the fawns. I've got a little FoxPro that has some good fawn distress. I'll bring that along this weekend and see if I can't make a few good sets. I think the perch where Turner and his boy had some action would be a good place. You can hunt three sides of the hill and have lots of windows to shoot through.
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You wanna see me fragile get me back to the midwest where my roots are. I swear....being out here since 99 has got me whipped. I visit Illinois in the summer and the heat/humidity combo just kills me. I'll never move back if I can help it. This is my home. I don't need the cold winters or the sauna summers. Now...a little comfort is nice when in the woods regardless. Kind of like taking nice TP from home and not using the rough stuff. It's the little things. I've got plenty of time in the elements but once can always be smart about it. The dryer I stay they dryer my boots are the next time.
Having moved here from Illinois a few years ago myself, I still miss the weather. Well, more like the storms, and the sun. I don't mind the rain too much. Only when it starts to pool in my yard does it start to get on my nerves. If only chasing big game here was like finding white tails in Illinois....
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Where in Illinois? Born and raised in Danville....over by Champaign. I've got family still there as well as in Bloomington.
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Where in Illinois? Born and raised in Danville....over by Champaign. I've got family still there as well as in Bloomington.
Farmer city. Pretty well half way between champaign and Bloomington.
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Oh man....close to home. Drove by Farmer City every time we went to see the grandparents. Tell me the truth....you miss that sweet corn don't you!
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You wouldn't believe the looks I get when I tell people I grew up in a small town named Farmer City. It's definitely a different world out here. And I'm rooting for you on your bear. I'm gna try for one when fall season starts. It's a far cry from ducks and pheasents, so I'm pretty well diving off the deep end lol.
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Eh....you will find your way. Make sure you stop on by the next time we have a local get toghether at Razzles.
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I have 2 different fawn in distress calls. Next time we go out I'll bring them along and see if we can bring one in. It calls in deer and yotes just fine, haven't had a bear respond yet. I'm looking forward to the first one and many more after that!
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I'll post up a pic of where I was talking about in a few....gotta get it off the phone. You may remember this stretch.....you, Frank, and I walked it. It forks and the left goes to the bowl, the right curves down and around a little bit. Here is the pic. It was just dead silence.
Hey, I know that place!
I'm headed out for ling this afternoon, but Friday-Sunday I'm free if you want an extra set of eyes along. I can show you the spot where I got all my bear pics on the cam last year if you are interested, it's not far from there. Lemme know.
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Joe.....was your cam down and to the right last year?
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I was out for a stroll the other day, doing some coyote hunting and some early season bear scouting and I ran into the craziest thing...
H20Hunter ACTUALLY hunting. Odd, I know. I was looking for his kokanee rod, his ling cod gear, his pink FJ... surprisingly I found none of that. I think it was his first legit bear hunt of the spring season.
He's trying (kind of, but not really). Here is photo evidence to liven the thread.
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Look at the tush on that guy! Wowsers!
Stang....post the poo. Folks always love a nice poo pic. Bear poo...not mine. Don't post a pic of that.
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That spot looks familiar! Post the poo! We want poo! we want poo!
:chuckle: :chuckle:
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well, evidence is evidence. I was beginning to wonder if this whole thread should have been in the joke section. :chuckle:
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Look at the tush on that guy! Wowsers!
Stang....post the poo. Folks always love a nice poo pic. Bear poo...not mine. Don't post a pic of that.
Why does he have pics of your poo? Just what are you guys doing on these "hunts"???
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What? Sorry...didn't catch that.....
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This thread is definitely lacking in the bear poo pics department.
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Joe.....was your cam down and to the right last year?
Nah, I moved it from where we placed it. Back to the fork, then veer left towards the bridge, I had 1 spot before the bridge to the left and one across the bridge.
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I'll post up a pic of where I was talking about in a few....gotta get it off the phone. You may remember this stretch.....you, Frank, and I walked it. It forks and the left goes to the bowl, the right curves down and around a little bit. Here is the pic. It was just dead silence.
Hey, I know that place!
I'm headed out for ling this afternoon, but Friday-Sunday I'm free if you want an extra set of eyes along. I can show you the spot where I got all my bear pics on the cam last year if you are interested, it's not far from there. Lemme know.
Hey, you are supposed to have the bear tied up for me when I get back out on the 14th..... 8)
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Before the bridge...on the left....that is where the cool buck was hanging out with the FJ on Monday. Some area that needs to be further explored after the bridge on the left.
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I've been in there and had a cam up in there (as well as seen a couple other's cams). It's nice, good water access and lots of huckleberries and blackberries! If you are heading out there lemme know, I think I left a folding chair up there last late archery season... :bash:
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I was out for a stroll the other day, doing some coyote hunting and some early season bear scouting and I ran into the craziest thing...
H20Hunter ACTUALLY hunting. Odd, I know. I was looking for his kokanee rod, his ling cod gear, his pink FJ... surprisingly I found none of that. I think it was his first legit bear hunt of the spring season.
He's trying (kind of, but not really). Here is photo evidence to liven the thread.
Looks like a small gun your packing there H20. What do you shoot?
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Love that rifle.....Ruger M77 .270. Trigger breaks like a dry stick of spaghetti....light weight....and will shoot nickle sized groups IF i do my job. Current bear medicine is 150gr Barnes.....forget my fps....handloaded.
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Barnes will do the job nicely as long as you do yours.
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Look at the tush on that guy! Wowsers!
Stang....post the poo. Folks always love a nice poo pic. Bear poo...not mine. Don't post a pic of that.
Why does he have pics of your poo? Just what are you guys doing on these "hunts"???
:yeah:
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Yep....last years bear was shot with the Hornady Interlock....it did a hell of a job. However, as you know, they are designed to come apart. This year the brush is already thick and lush. With wet conditions and the green growing by the foot per week I want to put Mr. Bear down DRT. I'm looking for that high shoulder drop 'em where they stand broadside shot. The Barnes will give me max penetration.
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Yep....last years bear was shot with the Hornady Interlock....it did a hell of a job. However, as you know, they are designed to come apart. This year the brush is already thick and lush. With wet conditions and the green growing by the foot per week I want to put Mr. Bear down DRT. I'm looking for that high shoulder drop 'em where they stand broadside shot. The Barnes will give me max penetration.
I'm pretty sure the only bullet that MIGHT not work great to kill a bear around here under 300 yards where most all shots are taken from is a full metal jacket bullet. Its not like we're hunting rhinos here, if you hit it where you're supposed to, any bullet that expands should work just fine.
"Blah blah, my bullet choice is better than yours, blah blah"
I use federal factory loads in whatever they have on the shelf at that point in time. At shots under 200 yards i pattern inside 3" regardless and the area I'm aiming for is bigger than that. Never had a problem.
Next up in the "my bullets are better than yours category": Exploding bear-buster (see: bunker buster) bullets for max penetration and expansion.
:yike: :bdid: can he really say that bullets don't matter that much? :dunno: (just did)
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I agree. Main reason I grabbed the Barnes this year is they were handy and already loaded. First shot at the range from a cold barrell to check zero nicked the X....said that will work just fine and here I am.
Oh....and of course my bullet/caliber is better than yours! Granted...I would like to shoot a bear with your little black rifle as well.
Got any of those poo pics on your phone?
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28pages and no bear yet :o :tree1:
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28pages and no bear yet :o :tree1:
This thread is social therapy for H20. He doesn't need any more pressure... :P
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Look at the tush on that guy! Wowsers!
Stang....post the poo. Folks always love a nice poo pic. Bear poo...not mine. Don't post a pic of that.
Hillarious..."I'LL BET HE WORKS OUT!"
quote from Dumb and Dumber
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When is your tag expired? 5/31?
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June 15 i believe......
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Just looked at the regs, I think hunt 7015, Monroe, ends on 5/31.
Better hit that forest hard!!
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It's listed as may 31 in the regs but it was extended to June 15 and communicated when the permits were sent.
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:yeah:
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Fawns are dropping. Might want to consider doing a little calling if you get a chance. Might pull one to you.
:yeah: I haven't got any fawns on cameras yet, but have found 2 different sets of tiny fawn tracks. I'm gonna really give that (calling) a try this weekend.
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Before the bridge...on the left....that is where the cool buck was hanging out with the FJ on Monday. Some area that needs to be further explored after the bridge on the left.
I was drawn back on what I thought was a deer, that turned out to be a bear at about 20yds. That was on the road your talking about. Follow it all the way back to the end. I uused to have a trail cut in that would put you on the rock face looking back over the cut, and bridge. Sure trail needs to be trimmed back up..........Good bear spot.
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I've been in there and had a cam up in there (as well as seen a couple other's cams). It's nice, good water access and lots of huckleberries and blackberries! If you are heading out there lemme know, I think I left a folding chair up there last late archery season... :bash:
Your chair is still there :chuckle: I found it a couple months ago while shed hunting. The one I found is on the road that goes to the left right before the bridge. By the old rock pit.......Found my only shed for this year there.
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Yep....last years bear was shot with the Hornady Interlock....it did a hell of a job. However, as you know, they are designed to come apart. This year the brush is already thick and lush. With wet conditions and the green growing by the foot per week I want to put Mr. Bear down DRT. I'm looking for that high shoulder drop 'em where they stand broadside shot. The Barnes will give me max penetration.
I'm pretty sure the only bullet that MIGHT not work great to kill a bear around here under 300 yards where most all shots are taken from is a full metal jacket bullet. Its not like we're hunting rhinos here, if you hit it where you're supposed to, any bullet that expands should work just fine.
"Blah blah, my bullet choice is better than yours, blah blah"
I use federal factory loads in whatever they have on the shelf at that point in time. At shots under 200 yards i pattern inside 3" regardless and the area I'm aiming for is bigger than that. Never had a problem.
Next up in the "my bullets are better than yours category": Exploding bear-buster (see: bunker buster) bullets for max penetration and expansion.
:yike: :bdid: can he really say that bullets don't matter that much? :dunno: (just did)
:yeah: Stang we speak the same language :chuckle:
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I've been in there and had a cam up in there (as well as seen a couple other's cams). It's nice, good water access and lots of huckleberries and blackberries! If you are heading out there lemme know, I think I left a folding chair up there last late archery season... :bash:
Your chair is still there :chuckle: I found it a couple months ago while shed hunting. The one I found is on the road that goes to the left right before the bridge. By the old rock pit.......Found my only shed for this year there.
Ha! Nice! Guess I better get my butt up there and pick it up!
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kum bai ya my lord kum bai ya..... :fire.:
just biding time until a dead bear, or some bear poop or something remotely bear like is posted
:fire.:
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kum bai ya my lord kum bai ya..... :fire.:
just biding time until a dead bear, or some bear poop or something remotely bear like is posted
:fire.:
Been waiting for that sense April 15th :camp: :party1: lol
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Loading up....head to work then back this evening.
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Good luck out there H20, your day is coming.
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I just read the thread about 92xj's girl killing a bear. I think it was mighty kind of you to let the women and children kill their bears before you shot yours. You are a good man!
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What's the plan this 3 day weekend H20?
3 days of bear hunting, daylight to dark? :tup:
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Are you taking the wife back down to Willows or going kokanee fishing or going ling fishing? :dunno:
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Oh my goodness...I just read 29 pages and still no bear.... :bash:
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Burnin daylight! And burnin days left to hunt. Good luck out there. Be safe those spring bears can be mean and sneaky. Come in from behind and get you. If you know what I mean?
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TICK<TICK<TICK......
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After this saturday comes and goes, only 3 left! Time to trade in some vacation hours for field time!
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Shhhh...bear hunting....all weekend....until bvq time monday afternoon.
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hey wait have you been hunting C-post...that might be the problem you are ignoring the obvious :chuckle:
you see what I did there ;)
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This is what happens when you spend time in the field! :yike:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,125497.0/topicseen.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,125497.0/topicseen.html)
Which leads to this! :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126030.50.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126030.50.html)
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Quiet hunt. One bunny, one doe and fawn, a little rain, no bear. Home to sleep, back out in the am.
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yyaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnn
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good luck...good morrow.....sir
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
I'm rooting for you! Go get em! So many pages! :chuckle:
Good luck this weekend.
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Well come on it's been light for almost 3 hours! Where is the story? Pic's? I know you like to post updates from the field, don't keep us waiting.
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Quiet morning. Just got done with a walk. Having a snack. Quiet morning so far.
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I got a good feeling about today.
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I got a good feeling about today.
did he wear the bacon scented clothing and take a dozen jelly doughnuts for a snack :dunno: just sayin it might help :chuckle:
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Just gotta wait.......
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anyone else click on here and immediately here the jeopardy music... :chuckle:
Jeopardy! Think Music, 1997 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4003xkcTJmI#)
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I got a good feeling about today.
did he wear the bacon scented clothing and take a dozen jelly doughnuts for a snack :dunno: just sayin it might help :chuckle:
saw someone in camo walking out of crispy cream with the last of the bacon maple bar doughnuts . h2o maybe :dunno: :chuckle:
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I seen a Crispy Cream helicopter dropping strange boxes out the door over his hunting area this morning!!! Now I know why!!
Shoot a bear already!
Rtspring
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Congrats!
sent from my typewriter
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Congrats!
sent from my typewriter
:dunno:
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Congrats!
sent from my typewriter
:dunno:
congrats for delivery of the crispy cream instead of having to tie them around his neck on a string :dunno:
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Oh that makes sense.
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Will this story have a happy ending, so far it has been very entertaining
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Congrats!
sent from my typewriter
Is this a pre-mature Congrats?
I think I saw his FJ parked at the boat launch on Lake Stevens this morning. :dunno:
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premature and happy ending :yike: :yike: whoa what are they doing in the forest over there....wait I dont want to know...back to the jeopardy music
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Run H20 says go ahead and post the pic. We are in route to butcher :tup:
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give me a couple minutes I am on it
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OK, given recent communication outside of this thread.
I also say congrats to H20... :tup:
He got it done!
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tada
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Congrats!
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Nice Yogi! Congrats.
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:tup:
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Congrats D...looks like a nice one!!
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way to be! Knew it would happen one of these days :tup:
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Right fricken on, good job that does look like a good looking bear
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Bear is dropped of at butcher :IBCOOL:. I knew he had it in him I just needed to push him a little.
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Bear is dropped of at butcher :IBCOOL:. I knew he had it in him I just needed to push him a little.
...was so dang happy for him when he messaged me this morning and its a really nice bear to boot :tup:
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ya. Hard not to say something on his thread. Knowing he had a bear down.
Bout time tho :chuckle:
Congrats! :tup:
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Nice bear!congrats .can't wait till fall season to get my very first bear.and if anyone is willing to join me I would appreciate the help.pm me if ur experienced and wanna join me
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Nice Bear :tup:
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:tup: Nice Bear Congratulations!
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Congrats! Hopefully more pics to follow....
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Oh man did that shower feel good...having a brew and prepping pics.
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Oh man did that shower feel good...having a brew and prepping pics.
Looks like flat ground where he's laying. Fairly easy pack out?
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Oh man did that shower feel good...having a brew and prepping pics.
Looks like flat ground where he's laying. Fairly easy pack out?
the other pic I saw was in the brushy forest
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Patience.....all shall be revealed.....
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Well done, can't wait for the details!!
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Patience.....all shall be revealed.....
Man I am catching all kinds of flak for keeping secrets..... :chuckle: hurry up with the story and more pics....
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:whoo: Now they can't give you crap for fishing :chuckle: Way to go :tup:
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Umm that looks like my black lab that just ran away... :ACRY:
Lol just kidding. Nice looking bear forsure glad you finally got one :tup:
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Not Bad! :tup:
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Ok.....here you go.
D-Rock and I are good. He came over...helped with a little knife work....we ran up to TNT on Camano and dropped off Mr. Bear at the butcher.
So...the story. Yesterday I was out hunting and didn't see much. Turner and I hunted up on Bear Rock...saw a little deer but no action. However, midday yesterday I was heading back to the truck. There is an old road that is really very pretty. Open forest on both sides, soft walking, very bear like. Thing is I haven't walked it. I decided to give it a go and after only about 600 yards of walking I come across a group of teenagers and an adult. They were out hunting for Squatch. Really, they were. They had a cam out and a small group of them are doing their senior project on whether or not they can prove or disprove the existence of the Bigfoot. We chatted a bit about bears, bear hunt'n, Squatch, and the general area. Nice group of kids and what I thought is a pretty cool senior project. So, headed into town for lunch. On the way back to hunting I cam across them heading out. They said they had a bear and deer on cam but no squatch. So fast forward to this morning...I slept in and finally rolled outta the rack around 6:30. Got to the gate and parked around 8. I wasn't sure where I was going to hunt and decided to walk the road again and see if I couldn't see Squatch or maybe even a bear. Began my walk and then after only about 30 minutes of creeping along I look left and see a bear. He was looking right at me. I kind of say "oh oh oh" to myself as I get the rifle on the stick. Safety off and he is beginning to turn. There is thick brush night behind him so as he turn I let the crosshairs float on him and touch it off just as he completes the turn. I can see him hunch up at the shot and take about four strides into the thick brush.
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So, now my ears have that slight ring and I think I hear a bit of a moan. Unsure I wait a few and it is dead silent. Nothing moving. No birds no nothing. I move in to see what I can find. No blood, no hair, no nothing put one turned up patch of dirt where he pushed off after the shot. I'm standing there like an idiot staring at a wall of brush. I go a few steps and stop...nothing moving. I'm by myself, jacked up, and am now wondering if I hit it. At 60 yards or so I'm sure I did but no blood. I decide it is best to wait...call in a couple dudes...and go look for the bear. As I step back and turn there it is laying under a pine tree. All I can see is the head and shoulder.
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:tup: Nice job.
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After poking it with the rifle a dozen times to make sure it is dead and give my heart a chance to calm down I begin to relax a bit. Texts get sent, brother in law hits the road to come help, and the work begins. The bullet went at the last rib, blew the liver to tiny bits and pulp, punched both lungs, and destroyed the far shoulder. D-Rock and I ran up to TNT and got it dropped off. 103 lbs hanging weight....I'm thinking around 200 lbs on the paw, maybe just a touch more. Big ol round head, nice boar, nice spring bear.
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Nicely done!! 🍻
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Really nice Monroe bear! Right on brother :tup:
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Very nice bear H2, congrats!!!
Looking for a hit bear in the bushes makes you really know you are alive. :chuckle:
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still smiling for you :) awesome tale and good looking bear
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Great you shot a bear from the pink fj now can we start scouting elk now.
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Awesome bear! Congrats
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Glad to see you got your bear. We were all pulling for you.
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:tup: way to go!
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After poking it with the rifle a dozen times to make sure it is dead and give my heart a chance to calm down I begin to relax a bit. Texts get sent, brother in law hits the road to come help, and the work begins. The bullet went at the last rib, blew the liver to tiny bits and pulp, punched both lungs, and destroyed the far shoulder. D-Rock and I ran up to TNT and got it dropped off. 103 lbs hanging weight....I'm thinking around 200 lbs on the paw, maybe just a touch more. Big ol round head, nice boar, nice spring bear.
Nice hunting shirt... Killer :chuckle:
All joking aside, Great work brother. Thats a dandy bear, Hopefully Ill get mine later this year.
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Congrats on the Bear... :tup:
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Good Job. Damn nice bear. :tup:
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good job H20 .... they should be out in force now .... :tup: :tup:
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Thank god! Now this thread will end! Reminds me of that clueless guy and his shooting a two point thread :chuckle:
Way to get it done sir! Great job...
Rtspring
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Congrats on a nice bear! Everyone that was busting your balls was probably doing it in fun but still, it's got to feel good to prove them wrong. :chuckle:
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Nice work! After 30 pages its about time :chuckle:
Just got my bear back from TNT today. John has been dog hunting a lot lately.
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Thanks...im good with some fun. Very happy to be tagged out. Im showered, well fed, and well hydrated with brew.
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Great looking bear, and well deserved you put in the work for sure.
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I just reported your title to the mods. Stop picking on me.
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Uh....suck it. Now we can focus on elk baby!
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Uh....suck it. Now we can focus on elk baby!
Are you going to start your own special H20's 2013 Fall Elk thread?
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Don't give him ideas. He thrives on the attention.
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Don't give him ideas. He thrives on the attention.
But then he'll have plenty of pictures of your camp and tell everyone what goes on there...
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I really only invited him for his packing abilities.
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I really only invited him for his packing abilities.
That's a good reason to have him there. Guys able to pack loads are valuable.
In my camp, half the guys are give more instruction than anything else. Then again, they are old and aren't so ambitious any more. There's been more than one time they've been frustrated when we didn't listen to them and just pack an animal out the next morning. I'm a believer in getting them out and hanging at camp. A few times that meant packing past midnight. By doing that though that also means we can hunt the next morning and not pack meat during good hunting hours.
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I just reported your title to the mods. Stop picking on me.
:o really drock say it isnt so...you are not a tattle tale
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Really
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:chuckle:
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Elk camp....2013.....coming soon to a forum near you...
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Elk camp....2013.....coming soon to a forum near you...
YES!!! :tup: :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
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Congrats H20, This is the first I heard that you scored. I don't know if you texted me or not, I can't find my phone. I'm glad D was able to help you out. You are the bear killer now!
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Congrats! :tup:
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Well done h20 :tup:, I will have to say I didn't think you we're gonna pull this off.
You proved me, and I believe some others on here wrong! :sry:
Now get to eating that thing, I love me some bear spaghetti ! :drool:
Now I have to buy Loki a steak dinner! :bash:
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Congratulations on a great bear!!
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Nice job h20. That's a great blackie.
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About freakin time!.....haha
:kneel: :bow: :rockin: :bow: :rockin:
:brew: :brew: :brew: :brew:
congratulations!
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:tup:
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well done, and with 3 weeks to spare!
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Nice work!
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Sweet, nicely done!:)
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Ooof....little sore this morning. A good kinda sore. He will get eaten. Butcher is making pep sticks, salami, and some steaks. I didn't do any grind...got plenty leftover from last years fall bear. Bear taped out at 5 feet 7 inches.
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Nice job Dude :tup: Way to get it done!
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Thanks....call when you get one and ill be on the way.
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Now we can go fish :fishin:
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Now we can go fish :fishin:
Its about time you guys got some fishing done.
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Nice Job H20 !!
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nice work!
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33 pages?! Holy cow. Glad you got him. This has been fun to follow.
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:tup: Yay good job buddy!
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Very Nice! :tup:
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Thanks. Just got back from dropping the hide off at a local taxi. He is doing the hide for Turners son on his bear. I'm glad folks have enjoyed the thread. It has been fun. Burned more than one or two tanks of gas and have a few scratches on the FJ that need to be addressed but it was a fun hunt. Tough hunt.....I've been told that it is a harder tag to fill than a fall general tag and now agree. The brush and vegetation is 10 times thicker in just the last two weeks. Having a gate key is a very nice perk. You can get back and explore areas that would take a while to hike to just to look around. George, one the Campbell guys was very nice every time we came across him. He was always cruising with his grandson and happy to share info about bear sightings and what he has been seeing. I'm getting this one hair on tanned and having the skull done as a wall mount euro with a simple brass plaque: Black Bear, Spring 2013.
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Congrats from Buckley Nation! Those mounts will be good memories for sure! :tup:
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Nice Bear, congrats!!! Way to stay at it!! :tup: And keep us entertained for 33 pages :chuckle: :chuckle:
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:yike: (Great story)Congrats nice bear. It's about time the tread was getting to long. :bash: :IBCOOL: :yike: :tup:
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Thanks. Just got back from dropping the hide off at a local taxi. He is doing the hide for Turners son on his bear. I'm glad folks have enjoyed the thread. It has been fun. Burned more than one or two tanks of gas and have a few scratches on the FJ that need to be addressed but it was a fun hunt. Tough hunt.....I've been told that it is a harder tag to fill than a fall general tag and now agree. The brush and vegetation is 10 times thicker in just the last two weeks. Having a gate key is a very nice perk. You can get back and explore areas that would take a while to hike to just to look around. George, one the Campbell guys was very nice every time we came across him. He was always cruising with his grandson and happy to share info about bear sightings and what he has been seeing. I'm getting this one hair on tanned and having the skull done as a wall mount euro with a simple brass plaque: Black Bear, Spring 2013.
Who Is Doing The Hide?
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Hair on tan, Morow, local guy.
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congrats on getting your bear... :tup: :tup: :tup:
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Way to go!!! :tup: Now you can go fishing and relax.... Oh wait.. You've been doing that the whole bear season!!! :chuckle:
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Harsh! Im keeping a naughy and nice list for when the meat is done. Guess who just made the naughty list!
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:IBCOOL: Nice work! 2 in a row, you da man!
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Hair on tan, Morow, local guy.
Is that the guy in Lake Stevens? Lives in the private airfield community? If it is, I got a Pintail mounted by him last year. He does good work.
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Yep, same guy
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Congrats on a great bear and a good thread. Nice to see it all work out :tup:.
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Thanks. If i shoot a 2nd bear this year it is bow or nothing.
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Awesome work! Tusk is the best, your going to be very happy. :tup:
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Elk camp....2013.....coming soon to a forum near you...
just wondering how many pages that would be :chuckle:
BTW congrats on your bear - I knew you will pull through -you guys have so many bears out there ......it was just matter of time .....
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Booyah!!
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I think elk camp could go 40 pages....with or without an elk on the ground.
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We would have about 30 pages of how cool my elk kill was and how you got the honor of packing it out for me.
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Way to get it done.
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Ill pack elk for anyone in camp. Wore my "free hugs" bear tshirt today. Cleaned the rifle, stowed the gear.....that kind of stuff. A good day.
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:IBCOOL:
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Sweet deal...Congrats!
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Nice bear. Congrats
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Can we use bear heart for crab bait in a few months? I think you catch bigger crab that way.
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Can we use bear heart for crab bait in a few months? I think you catch bigger crab that way.
Try the liver. It holds much more scent for the crab to come to. Used to use elk liver in my bait box when I had a salt water boat and actually crabbed.
H20, the heart is good stuff for the grind at the butcher.
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Gonna be a little hard to test the theory....the liver was in various sized chunks and mostly turned to pulp.....The heart was chucked at my brother in laws head. He ducked and I believe it rolled over by some logs...probably already eaten by now.
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Gonna be a little hard to test the theory....the liver was in various sized chunks and mostly turned to pulp.....The heart was chucked at my brother in laws head. He ducked and I believe it rolled over by some logs...probably already eaten by now.
You basically threw crabs over your bro-in-law... what a waste.
Liver goes quickly, heart has staying power for a longer soak.
Also, any crab *censored* enough to eat bear, is probably 3/4 alaskan king crab, 1/4 puny dungeness. It'd be a good outing.
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Stang I have a hart and liver in my freezer for you to try.
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Didn't think many people ate organs from bears?
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I don't eat organs from anything!
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I don't eat organs from anything!
elk hart is pretty awesome.
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I almost wouldn't classify heart as a organ. It's a muscle. The liver is a filter. The heart is a pump.
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Elk/deer....I will eat (try it at least) heart oR liver when somebody that knows what they are doing cooks it. I've had a small piece of raw deer liver...not bad. Bear organS....no thanks.
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I don't eat organs from anything!
According to the updated thread title D-Rock, doesn't always eat organ meat, though it appears some times he treats them like a loli-pop when requested by H20Hunter. :tung:
Good work on the bear. Good luck on the elk next. Keep him out of trouble during elk season D-rock.
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I don't eat organs from anything!
ripper you ever eat skin of something like turkey or chicken? Oh yeah skin is an organ. Go ahead and Google it.
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You made it to the big leagues now.
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Heart prepared properly is very tasty. If you don't want to take the time on it as I say it goes in the grind real well.
I have pretty much eaten myself sick of liver over the years. Will only bring it out if I have someone that wants it.
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There yah go...changed it....don't want any non family friendly comments derailing such a fun thread.
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I feel better already.
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I don't eat organs from anything!
elk hart is pretty awesome.
My favorite part!
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Yep
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Just heard the Men's Room shout out H20 :tup: So, how big of a shower beer was it anyways??? :chuckle:
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Thats funny....hit a squirrel...shower beer! 12oz Valencia Ale...
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I don't eat organs from anything!
elk hart is pretty awesome.
:yeah:
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Just heard the Men's Room shout out H20 So, how big of a shower beer was it anyways???
Yeah I heard that too. Pretty awesome. Shower beer :tup: Good work H20
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I almost wouldn't classify heart as a organ. It's a muscle. The liver is a filter. The heart is a pump.
Lol Mr Technical!
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Well I took biology in high school and its an organ.
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Oh snap, the debate is on! What says you Goldeneye?
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The hart is one of 78 organs in the human body.
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The hart is one of 78 organs in the human body.
Quick, name the other 78.
Ready... GO!
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Well I took biology in high school and its an organ.
The hart is one of 78 organs in the human body.
D-rock. I'm glad you learned about organs in your high school biology class. In my high school English class I learned that a "hart" is a word for a stag, and a "heart" is an organ. No offense just me being a D-bag.
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I skipped that day :chuckle:
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:chuckle:
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I almost wouldn't classify heart as a organ. It's a muscle. The liver is a filter. The heart is a pump.
Lol Mr Technical!
From Wikipedia: The human heart is an organ that provides a continuous blood circulation through the cardiac cycle and is one of the most vital organs in the human body.
its a VITAL organ, not an organ... :chuckle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_heart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_heart)
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Thats funny....hit a squirrel...shower beer! 12oz Valencia Ale...
When I heard that, I knew it was you. That was awesome! I learned about shower beer when I was in AK running my charter boat, hadn't heard much about them until the last year or two again. Seem to be everywhere now!
Well earned shower beer my man, good work, and glad that all P.S. knows you got your spring bear. :tup:
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Thanks
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I'll give you that the heart is an organ. It's about the only organ that can taste like steak.
You guys are feisty tonight.
You H20 worshipers suck down a bunch of Zima's or something?
Oh and Smossy, go lay down by your dish...
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This one is drinking beer and getting sick of little neighborhood pukes .....
so when does the epic elk thread start
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I'm sure H20 will start that one off soon. Chronicling his preseason workout in preparation for his first ever Elk camp.
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I'll give you that the heart is an organ. It's about the only organ that can taste like steak.
You guys are feisty tonight.
You H20 worshipers suck down a bunch of Zima's or something?
Oh and Smossy, go lay down by your dish...
. You mad bro?
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You made it to the big leagues now.
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NICE
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Congrats H20 on the bear!
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Thanks again....as I get a few days behind me I'm getting excited about having some bear pep sticks in the fridge. Also, looking back at shot placement, the quickness of the kill, the help provided by the brother in law and friends....just couldn't be happier how this turned out.
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Its hard for me to say this but you did a good job yuppie.
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Thanks buddy....next one is with a bow if I can.
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You and me both :tup:
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Thanks buddy....next one is with a bow if I can.
Don't be a puddin'
Knife the next one. Throwing knives. Sow with cubs. Make it happen (think of the trees you'll save).
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Why do I keep getting emails saying someone has replied to this thread?! He killed one, let the thread die too! :bash:
Just kidding, this is quite entertaining. Everybody is asking about the elk thread, bit what about fall bear? Is that taking a back seat to scouting?
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Nope....bow shooting and prep for elk is priority.
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Nope....bow shooting and prep for elk is priority.
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Well I'm with ya. Gotta start doing some more scouting and prepping myself soon. Got a muzzle loader for my first time elk hunting. I'm really excited to see you got your spring bear. Congrats again on that.
When do you get the hide back? I hope to see some pictures of that mount too.
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Not sure on the hide.....I think a hair on tan only takes a few months. He said he was going to flesh it, turn the paws and ears, and salt it right away to get the process started. I'll tag the thread when it is all done with the skull mount and hide pics.
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Congrats on the bear. Nine days and I'll be back in the state and back out there.
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Good luck Ed....you got my number if you get one down.
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Went up to see my taxi yesterday and pick up my extracted tooth. The skull is boiled and now needs to be finished being cleaned, whitened, and mounted up. Very cool. Didn't have a real good tape on hand but it probably goes between 17 & 3/4 and 18. Very cool to see it boiled and I'm excited to see it mounted.
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Who's your taxi?
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Michelle has my fall bear....moro locally here has my spring.
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Thought some might want to see my Winthrop bear skull after I cleaned and bronzed it. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F06%2F14%2Fhebazena.jpg&hash=60fc02d13e9aca6e9e8ccfcc365d984783afbf5a)(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F13%2F06%2F14%2Fbejena7a.jpg&hash=63142665ba044ea0869b52070ef0a024f66e88a0)
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That is the coolest one I have seen Pygmy :tup: Who did that?
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Turner, I did the work. I macerated the skull and cleaned it. I peroxided it because that was going to be the end of it at the time for me. Then I saw some of this work done and changed my mind. This treatment could be applied right after the skulls been cleaned and dried. I used the bronzing products from http://www.sculptnouveau.com/. (http://www.sculptnouveau.com/.) There's also copper, iron, nickle. You can mix the metals to achieve different look and feel too. The cool part is they sell different stains/patinas/acids that will age the application. It's real metal flakes suspended in the paint that harden into a metal coating. I think I applied the stain too heavily on this first bear. I've seen much better bronzing work but in the end I like it and it's tough. It's perfect for placing a skull outside in the elements as it weathers like metal and with only the teeth exposed will last for years. An application of sealer keeps the metal from aging any more. Glad you liked it - I was certainly throwing the dice on a prized possession.
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Oh yeah, I recommend not having any exposed cuts when cleaning the maceration off your skull :o Almost crippled me before I realized what happened and could get to the doctors office a few days later. Heck of a cocktail that process creates!
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Very cool Pygmy.....not a fan of metallic shulls but i had bever seen a bronze one.
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Turner, I did the work. I macerated the skull and cleaned it. I peroxided it because that was going to be the end of it at the time for me. Then I saw some of this work done and changed my mind. This treatment could be applied right after the skulls been cleaned and dried. I used the bronzing products from http://www.sculptnouveau.com/. (http://www.sculptnouveau.com/.) There's also copper, iron, nickle. You can mix the metals to achieve different look and feel too. The cool part is they sell different stains/patinas/acids that will age the application. It's real metal flakes suspended in the paint that harden into a metal coating. I think I applied the stain too heavily on this first bear. I've seen much better bronzing work but in the end I like it and it's tough. It's perfect for placing a skull outside in the elements as it weathers like metal and with only the teeth exposed will last for years. An application of sealer keeps the metal from aging any more. Glad you liked it - I was certainly throwing the dice on a prized possession.
I'm gonna give that a try this fall. Thanks
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Michelle has my fall bear....moro locally here has my spring.
:tup: Moros Has Done Some Good.Work Form Us.
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Good to hear they are working fast on your bear. Years go they had my goose mount forever. It kept getting pushed back by deer and bears, etc they said. Good people though, wish I could live on the air park with a hangar like theirs...
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Good to hear they are working fast on your bear. Years go they had my goose mount forever. It kept getting pushed back by deer and bears, etc they said. Good people though, wish I could live on the air park with a hangar like theirs...
I got my Buck back in May, and my sons spring Bear skull is done now. They are good guys.
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Turner.....did you get it done on a plaque? Got a pic? Text is fine if you got it. He and his brother turn skulls around fast! Looking forward to getting mine complete.
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We haven't picked it up yet. I don't think I'll make it there this weekend either Errett has a baseball tournament all weekend. We just went with bleach only, no plaque. I or he will post it up, when we pick it up though.
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There is a good chance I saw it when I went to pick up my tooth. They had about 8 that they had boiled and gotten clean. They still needed to be finished as far as the little bit of grease and whitened. They looked really good. I bet the boy is excited to get his skull back.
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So....picked up Mr. Bear at the butcher today and have already enjoyed some summer sausage, smoked cheese, and crackers. Delicious.....
So anyway he recovered the bullet from the far shoulder where it was lodged. I don't remember my exact load data and am to lazy to go find it. These bullets are for my .270, 150 gr Barnes X Bullet. This is not the tipped TSX. I don't remember the velocity. Ending weight once cleaned and dried is 146.7 gr measured on my digital scale. A few things....First off the shot placement if you remember was hard quartering away. Bullet entered at the last rib or so, blew out the liver, both lungs, and broke the far shoulder. It traveled a long way and was obviously a very devastating shot on the bear. He traveled a few strides and that was it. However, as you will see, the bullet did not expand very impressively. The shot was fairly close and I would expect more expansion a bit past the 100 yard mark and beyond.
Here it is.
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H20, That does not look like a XBT. I'll bring a few to the BBQ I've dug out of animals and show you what kind of expansion those have. Bring your slug. This looks like a different projectile.
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Will do.....as I mentioned I picked up the meat from Jonn this morning. The family was out in the shop working on all kinds of good looking stuff. Already broke open one of the summer sausage....good stuff. These rounds were loaded a few years ago....I'm fairly sure they were the Barnes....I'll bring it and we can get all kinds of opinions.
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Looks like a flat base triple shock to me. Is there an X stamped on the base of it?
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Nope...no X.
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I'll bring a slug box for the X and XBT. Guarentee it's neither of those.
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See you there. Heading out to the boys birthday party in a few.....headed to the bbq afterwards.
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Just about done with chores. I'll be there in as bit as well.
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Party has started you'll both late.
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Yep......keep it going....gotta get the boys bday party knocked out.....in time.
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D-Rock, please drink my share until I get there. I'm getting in the shower now.
I'm bringing:
Beer
Water
Polish Style duck dogs
Duck Lanjager
Duck pepperoni
Duck Jerky
And a item we can use for one of those betting games once everyone is suffciently juiced with spirits...
See you soon!
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Did you figure out what type of bullet you had? Looks a lot different than what I shot my bear with. That's a 140 grain hornady SST. Opened up nice but didn't hold its weight as well as I would like.
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Not 100%. It is a Barnes of course we just can't tell enough about the bullet to tell which one. Either way...like we talked about....it got the job done and I agree with Goldeneye....a little more speed would have made it open up a bit more and be more of a textbook look.
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Did you figure out what type of bullet you had? Looks a lot different than what I shot my bear with. That's a 140 grain hornady SST. Opened up nice but didn't hold its weight as well as I would like.
That is actually not to bad for the SST D-Rock ...nice mushroom ....I like the interlocks in a 140 gr out of my .270 ...Actually H20 Bullet held up pretty well too ... Looks like it could of opened up a little more ...but it definitely held up nicely ... :tup:
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I would like to find a bullet somewhere in between those two.
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Did you figure out what type of bullet you had? Looks a lot different than what I shot my bear with. That's a 140 grain hornady SST. Opened up nice but didn't hold its weight as well as I would like.
I'm impressed it held together that well D-Rock! I've shot SST's for a while and they all absolutely exploded. All i've ever recovered was an empty copper jacket, and done that multiple times. I switched to the Interbonds last year and had excellent performace. HUGE expansion, but 85-90% weight retention. Disclaimer: I shoot a 7mag on a fairly hot load, so that might be part of it. The 7mm-08 loads I do have always exploded too though.
One thing I will say about SST's, never had an animal go more than a few feet from the shot, they are devestating.
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Has anyone used the harnady GMX bullet?
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I used the SST on my bear this spring. I didnt recover the bullet but it took out part of the heart and a good amount of booth lungs. I cant believe that thing went 40 yrds after it was hit.
I also didnt find any bullet fragments so i suspect the majority of the SST went clean thru.
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I would think the good old Hornady interlocks will work good for you. Killed a lot of deer with then in NY, mostly at close range 40-100yd. They held together great. These were 140gr bullets shot from a 7x57 at about 2800fps.
Shot a 150lb or so bear with the 120gr Barnes TS from the same rifle, she ran all of 40yd with her lungs scrambled to mush. I'm sold on the Barned X bullets especially on elk.
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Bwana......were you under the awning when Goldeneye had a small selection of recovered slugs from the one or two elk his buddies in camp shot? :chuckle: They had perfect expansion and great weight retention. They were some of the offerings from Barnes. I still agree that I needed a few more FPS....I've emailed and sent pics to Barnes and will see if they give any feedback.
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Bwana......were you under the awning when Goldeneye had a small selection of recovered slugs from the one or two elk his buddies in camp shot? :chuckle: They had perfect expansion and great weight retention. They were some of the offerings from Barnes. I still agree that I needed a few more FPS....I've emailed and sent pics to Barnes and will see if they give any feedback.
Hey now, I am the only one in my camp that shoots those loads. I claim the destruction they caused. They were all separate animals. Can only remember one bull shot with my loads that needed a 2nd shot. As I mentioned the bullets I brought are no longer made by Barnes. They were the original X bullets and XBT's. I just keep shooting them because I have such high confidence in them. When I run out of my stock I'll have to build a new load and learn to trust it.
I'll be interested as well to hear the reply from Barnes H20. One think about these slugs. Even with little expansion, once they start tumbling they still do lots of damage.
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You know, one thing in common with all of these loads and recovered projectiles... you recovered them and therefore they worked. Very few people on here shoot far enough or challenging enough game that you need platinum covered titanium tipped raydon containing bullets to shoot a blacktail at 40 yards.
Whatever federal is making this year that isn't full metal jacket and under $20 a box I'll be shooting. Out to 200 yards we can do a side by side "kill test" and see if my fragmenting cheap factory loads work sufficiently or not.
"But Stang, that takes the fun out of all of our conversation"
Okay, fine, recommence your valid argument. The worlds largest blacktail with rhino skin awaits the results.
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Agree with you all the way. The ones you had were textbook expansion. I'll be suprised if Barnes doesn't give me some feedback. I think mine is the TSX bullet but I can't explain why there is no X on the bottom.
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I've shot the the old Barnes 200gr X bullets, pre Triple shock, out of my 338/08. Velocity was 2820fps. These were the same bullets that goldeneye uses. I've shot 10 large African antelope with them, 4 elk and a few reindeer. The African antelope were all elk sized. I've only recovered two bullets, one from an elk another from a blue wildebeest, tuff *censored*s. Both were classics Barnes mushrooms. I can't buy these bullets any longer but I've shot the 185's and the 210gr Barnes TS and they shoot great, < 1in. Will give these a try on elk this fall
Why some Barnes don't look that way is any bodies guess. If the bear died and it's innards's were messed up, the bullet did its job.
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Here is a picture of the SST vs. Interbond. Interbond was pulled from an elk last year, fully intact. The SST was pulled from a deer the year before. Once again though, both bullets did their job and put an animal on the ground, so it just depends on what you consider "good performance"
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I took my bear down with an SST last year and the bullet completely fell apart and caused I *censored*load of damage. Probably won't be using those again.
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thought you might find these photos interesting. From Michael458 over on Accurate Reloading forum.
not sure of the caliber but it was big. 300 grain bullet recovered from wet newspaper.
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Thanks Rob....I've seen somewhere....don't remember........a similiar photo spread for the non tipped rounds in the 2's and 3's of various sizes. All indications point to a little more steam needed.
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and my favorite photos of the CEB non-cons in ballistics gell. designed to fragment...
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H20, what rifle were you using (caliber). I'm sure you mentioned somewhere in the previous 150 million (sarcasm font) pages of this topic, but I don't feel like doing detective work to find out. I am always interested in bullet performance.
I have also heard (rumor mill is still going strong), That barnes moved towards tipped version bullets (TTSX) to get a little more reliable expansions, since sometimes the hollow point ones would plug up with for example bear hair/fat, and would not start expanding as quick, but the tipped version starts expanding on impact.
I have seen failures that looked similar on the old X-bullet. I have not personally used barnes x-bullets in my rifles, I just have others types to use up first.
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You guys have some good points for sure ...Lets take the .270 for instance .. This Cal . was designed with a 130 gr bullet in mind ...which is a very good bullet and performs very well on deer & elk .. But once we discovered what a 140 gr bullet does out of a .270 we never looked back .. I think it is the perfect bullet for a .270 ..little heavier than the 130 and a little lighter than a 150 ....I do not want to express my knowledge to much because some people get offended :chuckle: But I have put those 140 gr interlocks to work a few times and mainly on bears ..Where I hunt I hardly get a shot less than 200 yrds ..Most of the time they are 300 or more and I always shot bears in the shoulders and I can say from my experience they have performed well for over 40 yrs in our family ...I am an old school kinda guy ... if it works for you do not change it ...kinda like me and the Wasp thing :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: I have seriously cut back on how I hunt bear ...I see plenty of bear every year but I would rather watch them anymore than kill them ..Just all the years of packing bear up the hill instead of down the hill has worn me out ...Sure stinks to get older and lazy :bdid: From all the years of reloading I found that 54grains of IMR with a 140 gr hornaday Interlock is the perfect load for me :twocents: :tup:
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.....and for all you .270 shooters who never tried a 140 gr out of a .270 you are seriously missing out ....I suggest if you have not , to do so and see what I mean :tup:
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I prefer this type. It was recovered at the site of the shot instead of at the butcher :tung:. This wasfrom my spring bear this year. Hard quartering away shot.
It wasn't even a wasp! :yike:
Btw I have had more bad experience than good with Barnes so I don't use them anymore. :chuckle:
but there is no denying that yours did the job.
This is a neat thread.
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Thats a cool pic Blaster.....I'd like to stick one this fall.....
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H20, what rifle were you using (caliber). I'm sure you mentioned somewhere in the previous 150 million (sarcasm font) pages of this topic, but I don't feel like doing detective work to find out. I am always interested in bullet performance.
I have also heard (rumor mill is still going strong), That barnes moved towards tipped version bullets (TTSX) to get a little more reliable expansions, since sometimes the hollow point ones would plug up with for example bear hair/fat, and would not start expanding as quick, but the tipped version starts expanding on impact.
I have seen failures that looked similar on the old X-bullet. I have not personally used barnes x-bullets in my rifles, I just have others types to use up first.
I shoot a .270 Ruger M77 Stainless. The bullet mentioned was a Barnes 150g. I've used the 130 gr on deer and had excellent ranger performance as well as on game performance. As BullBlaster mentioned...the bullet did its job and then some. I've also used the 130 Hornady Interlock on last years fall bear....devastating performance on a high shoulder shot. I agree that most of the newer Barnes offerings are tipped....I also agree this is to help with expansion at a great velocity range.
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Also.....what would the thread be without a final pic of Mr. Bear........in my cooler!
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:EAT:
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yep..... :yeah:
Summer sausage and smoked cheese at lunch today! Over the weekend we cooked up two of the backstrap hunks. Tasty indeed. Since the muscle groups are smaller and there are more of them in this cut I think it will go into the crockpot next time for some pulled bear sandwiches....
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John does great work... i wish i brought some bear with me to work today.. but everyone usually eats it before i ever get a chance. :chuckle:
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I prefer this type. It was recovered at the site of the shot instead of at the butcher :tung:. This wasfrom my spring bear this year. Hard quartering away shot.
It wasn't even a wasp! :yike:
Btw I have had more bad experience than good with Barnes so I don't use them anymore. :chuckle:
but there is no denying that yours did the job.
This is a neat thread.
:chuckle: :chuckle: I prefer that type too !! :tup: ;) I just wanted to :stirthepot: A LITTLE :dunno: :chuckle: I AM USUALLY IGNORED ANYWAYS :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I hate to say it Bh....I've need nodding my head a lot more lately reading your stuff. I happen to agree with you on the 130's and 140's.......I know....Soon I'll have my own dog named Warden!
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Any reply from barnes yet?
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Nope....
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So....picked up Mr. Bear at the butcher today and have already enjoyed some summer sausage, smoked cheese, and crackers. Delicious.....
So anyway he recovered the bullet from the far shoulder where it was lodged. I don't remember my exact load data and am to lazy to go find it. These bullets are for my .270, 150 gr Barnes X Bullet. This is not the tipped TSX. I don't remember the velocity. Ending weight once cleaned and dried is 146.7 gr measured on my digital scale. A few things....First off the shot placement if you remember was hard quartering away. Bullet entered at the last rib or so, blew out the liver, both lungs, and broke the far shoulder. It traveled a long way and was obviously a very devastating shot on the bear. He traveled a few strides and that was it. However, as you will see, the bullet did not expand very impressively. The shot was fairly close and I would expect more expansion a bit past the 100 yard mark and beyond.
Here it is.
Did you shoot your reloads over a chronograph? Based on the pic of that bullet, I'd say 150gr Barnes should be left for .270WSM and not for the standard .270 Win. It seems your MV must be very low for that bullet to not open up at a shot that close. :twocents: Hard to argue that the bullet failed when you recovered it out of a dead bear, but they really should open up a lot more, especially at 60 yards.
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Agreed Curly....no....I don't have the crony data from these loads. My 130s.....yes..........Good point about the WSM...
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I hate to say it Bh....I've need nodding my head a lot more lately reading your stuff. I happen to agree with you on the 130's and 140's.......I know....Soon I'll have my own dog named Warden!
:chuckle: :chuckle: I know ...but the good thing about that is there is no other like him :yike: :yeah: Can not wait until fall ..To blow my whistle and yell Warden ...lmao !
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I can 2nd the Hornady superformance IB doing lots of damage, had a bear last yr that obliterated the shoulder on the exit. Bone fragments everywhere, and a hole about 6" across! Blacktail buck last fall in the brisket out the rear quarter, close shot so not a lot of expansion both dropped like a sack of potatoes...
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I can 2nd the Hornady superformance IB doing lots of damage, had a bear last yr that obliterated the shoulder on the exit. Bone fragments everywhere, and a hole about 6" across! Blacktail buck last fall in the brisket out the rear quarter, close shot so not a lot of expansion both dropped like a sack of potatoes...
what type of bullet ?? SST or interlocks ...never had much damage with Interlocks ...SST ...Yes but if you tone down the load you can change that problem real quick ...Lot of guys want that speed ...I could careless about making bullets scream ...I load for accuracy not speed ...obviously speed does a lot more damage .. I have a few Interlocks I recovered out of bears ...I need to dig them up ..
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I can 2nd the Hornady superformance IB doing lots of damage, had a bear last yr that obliterated the shoulder on the exit. Bone fragments everywhere, and a hole about 6" across! Blacktail buck last fall in the brisket out the rear quarter, close shot so not a lot of expansion both dropped like a sack of potatoes...
what type of bullet ?? SST or interlocks ...never had much damage with Interlocks ...SST ...Yes but if you tone down the load you can change that problem real quick ...Lot of guys want that speed ...I could careless about making bullets scream ...I load for accuracy not speed ...obviously speed does a lot more damage .. I have a few Interlocks I recovered out of bears ...I need to dig them up ..
Interbond, same ballistic as SST just a little different bullet, suposed to penetrate a little better. use 165 grain out of 30-06 close to 3000 f/ps at the barrel prints a 1" group out of the tikka
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So...the butcher took it upon himself (after we discussed options and I gave him plenty of free reign to do so) made two corned bear roasts. This saturdy I took said roast out of the bag, rinsed it off, threw it in the crockpot with a sliced onion, a few cloves of garlic, two cups of water, a bottle of beer, and a pack of italian seasoning. I let that baby cook most of the day and turned it down to med about mid afternoon. Dinner time came along and I pulled it apart, chucked a few pieces of silverskin, served it up with some grilled bread and fresh sweet corn. Hold the phone it was killer! Good and salty, very tender, and very mild when it comes to the game flavor. Leftover corned bear went into some scrambled eggs with some spicy chedder, taters, and veggies for a fritta style omelet yesterday morning.
So, moral of the story....if the butcher asks if you want to try a little corned bear say yes! I've got one more.....I'll take pics of it next time I cook it.
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:drool: Sounds good. :drool:
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sounds yummy :)
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my only bear, the guy doing it asked what I wanted & we went over options.
the stuff he recommended was awesome. steaks, roasts, berger etc...
never understood why people just go for sausage & pepper sticks.
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Bear backstrap on da treagar marinated in some spicy Chinese fish sauce was also excellent!!
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So...the butcher took it upon himself (after we discussed options and I gave him plenty of free reign to do so) made two corned bear roasts. This saturdy I took said roast out of the bag, rinsed it off, threw it in the crockpot with a sliced onion, a few cloves of garlic, two cups of water, a bottle of beer, and a pack of italian seasoning. I let that baby cook most of the day and turned it down to med about mid afternoon. Dinner time came along and I pulled it apart, chucked a few pieces of silverskin, served it up with some grilled bread and fresh sweet corn. Hold the phone it was killer! Good and salty, very tender, and very mild when it comes to the game flavor. Leftover corned bear went into some scrambled eggs with some spicy chedder, taters, and veggies for a fritta style omelet yesterday morning.
So, moral of the story....if the butcher asks if you want to try a little corned bear say yes! I've got one more.....I'll take pics of it next time I cook it.
That sounds amazing...
Where do you have game processed?
Sam
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Can't remember....... :chuckle:
He asks to remain a mystery.....sorry.
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I'm going to try that next time.......sounds good. I had bear steaks tonite.....they were great. I'm glad these bears taste good, because my freezer is full :chuckle: The first bear I shot was disgusting :puke:........It had been in the salmon. I will nver shoot a bear that is near spawning salmon again.
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Last weekend we had some kabobs.....bear and deer....little olive oil...salt and pepper....declicious.
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So the bear sticks didn't make it home intact. I ate half the package while sitting in construction on 92. Looking forward to attacking the teriyaki next...
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Nice....good hanging out with you. Welcome anytime.
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Last weekend we had some kabobs.....bear and deer....little olive oil...salt and pepper....declicious.
Yes it was, those kabobs were awesome. :tup:
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Huh, need to spend more time on here I guess. Good bunch of guys but I don't get the push for the long posts. I got to about the 6th or 7th page, had to take the bear test (46 seconds and an appointment with the strink in the morning to discuss my fragile emotions), got antsy so blew to the last page to find H2o talkin about his grubbin' corned bear. Now I gotta go back and follow the whole friggin thing like I got nothin better to do. Was gonna watch lifetime all night but there goes that plan, thanks a hell of a lot! I bet that would be damn tasty after about 14 hrs on the traeger at 225, treat it like a brisket maybe. Guess I'll fill the cooler and settle in for a read, no reason to waste time walking to the fridge.
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Just skip to like page 30....less painfull that way.
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Sweet, more time for lifetime, then I can get that tear in my beer as it should be! Any talk of a BBQ before archery starts? Sounds like you and d-rock are the guys in the know.
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Nah....bearmaniac, billthekid, saylene....those guys are half bear.