Post by: huntingbg on March 12, 2013, 11:16:16 PM
Post by: lokidog on March 12, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
Seriously, it will depend on a lot of factors. Statistically, most under age 10 don't pass, if your kid is a slow reader, they may need to wait longer, if your kid is smaller than average, as mine is, they may have to wait longer, if your kid is immature, they may have to wait longer.
The point is, you have a long ways to go but there is a lot you can do to make it easier for them when they are ready. When my boy was three, he was using sticks and other toys as guns. I thought about getting him a "toy" gun but decided that most were too realistic looking for a three year old to differentiate his toy from a real gun. So, i made hime one out of wood. I used a small 22 that my 8 yo daughter had as a template for the stock, then shortened it a little so it would fit him. I also attached a dowel to it for the barrel. Clearly, this is a "toy" gun and could not be confused with the real thing. From Day 1 he was told about the firearm safety rules, most specifically that his gun was not to be pointed at people or pets. He was reminded of these rules if he was seen to break them, or almost break them. I would trust my, now, 9 yo more than many adults I have seen handling firearms.
My boy willl be doing the online course starting later this week. Again, not because of lack of maturity a year or two ago or lack of reading ability, but because of his small stature.
Ultimately, it will be up to you when you and he/she decides to take the class. Please, though, be sure and do the other parents/kids a favor who are trying to get into limited class spaces and make sure your child is actually ready to pass the class and not just take up space in one.
Good luck and have fun, they grow up quickly.
Post by: shedkid on March 13, 2013, 06:54:31 AM
Post by: HornHoarder on March 13, 2013, 06:58:35 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 13, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
Post by: brocka on March 13, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Post by: h20hunter on March 13, 2013, 07:43:07 AM
Post by: arees on March 13, 2013, 08:15:50 AM
We started him shooting archery at about 3. He was shooting a bb gun with a cut down stock around 4 and a youth 22 around 5. He got his cut down 270 at around 6 and learned to hand load for it (using scoops and Trailboss powder so he could not overcharge a round). Through out he was taught shooting safety, but not fear of firearms. We would play hunter and guide with his stuffed animals in the basement taking care to only take safe shots (and knowing to step clear of your client before making a backing shot when the elephant charged).
We were on a weekend trip with some other kids where we taught them how to make small bows from sticks and strings. When the kids disappeared with the bows I checked up on them and found that my son had set up a range and was using the range safety calls we had taught him to keep the shooting safe.
Kids can learn safety early, if you teach it to them. You can adjust the bows and rifles to their size and ability. Work with them starting early and you will have not a problem recognizing when they are ready.
Post by: huntingbg on March 13, 2013, 07:03:29 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on March 13, 2013, 07:12:45 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 13, 2013, 07:37:29 PM
My 6 year old (good reader) passed no problem.
I didn't let him carry a loaded firearm until 10. He had some nice walk alongs with bb gun to prove 100% muzzle control.
And of course at 10, as the adult you need to be in "Immediate control" of the situation.
Post by: npaull on March 13, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
Post by: doubletall on March 14, 2013, 08:17:46 AM
Thanks,
Dave
Post by: arees on March 14, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
Hopefully your daughter has learned enough to know how to select a rifle that is suitable for both the game she is hunting and her abilities.
Post by: whitey on March 14, 2013, 09:54:18 AM
I think it really depends on the kid, Mine didnt really have any interest in hunting in general until then. Now she could care less about deer hunting, but loves hunting birds over her dog :dunno: Harley.. She comes around harley forgets all about me. :o
Post by: Nick 139 on March 20, 2013, 10:36:37 PM
so i enrolled him into the online course(because there were no regular classes available) and we spent about 2 weeks grinding through the course, we took many stops along the way to dig into some of the sections, "field trips" as i like to call them and I had him take the practice test 3 times, once with myself in the room (not saying a word) and twice alone he scored a 87, a 91, and 96. Then he matter of factly told me he was ready for the Real test, so i set it up and left the room. and a 96 score was followed by OH YA BABY!!! His field day is in a few weeks and he has stated a few times that as long as i do my part Calling the turkeys in he will do is part and not miss...... I love the online option for hunter safety, because of sports and very busy schedules.....but i in no way think its an easy option. Ever try and listen to a 10 year old read for 15 hours??? but i know that my son and i had a lot of good quality time in my ole computer room..
Post by: doubletall on March 22, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 22, 2013, 04:32:37 PM
Just an update on my daughters hunters ed experience. She took about a week to get through the online class by herself and got an 84 on the test. The next day at the field day she got a 100 on the written test and passed the field exercises. Her card was in our mailbox two days later.:tup: Good for you and her. There is nothing more frustrating and exciting at the same time than taking your kid hunting.
Post by: lokidog on March 22, 2013, 09:22:37 PM
Post by: seaduckhunter on March 22, 2013, 10:01:20 PM
Post by: calledinsick on April 17, 2013, 09:46:05 AM
10 years was a fair age for him to take the course. Thanks for the instructors, the class room instruction and field test is well worth the time even Dad learned a little.
Post by: Oldguy on April 18, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
My daughter is 9 next month and breezing through the online course without help. What can she (we) expect on the field day? Do they teach proper gun handling or are they just evaluated on what they have learned from the online material and from me. Can anyone give me a brief summary of the field test.
Thanks,
Dave
The new H.E. instructors manual states that the WDFW requires instructors to train students in eight(8) skills." In short, the only way a student should fail is poor attitude, failing to respond to training in at least one skill on three occasions or a blatant violation of muzzle control. The old practice of just testing the student in regard to handling skills without training is no longer valid.
Post by: sako85 on April 21, 2013, 01:53:32 PM
next season there is going to be an age min. of 9-10 not sure. I felt the class-
room coarse is great for the kids with more hands on learning and the responsibility
of the dedication of time is important.
We have done a lot of shooting and safety practice and he did well, but i feel
someone teaching other than mom or dad is good for the kids confidence.
Like everyone else i have been waiting a long time and can't be more proud! The
permits will be in soon, we both can hardly wait.
Post by: jason stevens on April 30, 2013, 03:36:24 PM
Post by: HUNT on May 29, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
Kids all mature at different ages. You'll know when the time is right.
You are the one that is responsible for them. Just because they pass the class doesn't mean you turn them loose by any means. They all had to earn the right from me to carry their own firearm. Doesn't mean they don't hunt, just means dad carries the rifle. And the youngest isn't there yet, but maybe next year. Practice, practice, practice gun safety year around with your kids.
Post by: BiggLuke on May 30, 2013, 10:38:23 AM
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
Post by: Smossy on May 30, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
I believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.Hey!
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
Everyones looking for you over here >> http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126303.msg1675595/topicseen.html#new (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126303.msg1675595/topicseen.html#new)
Post by: benhuntin on May 30, 2013, 11:07:16 AM
I believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.No requirement to be able to read the text can be read to you. You seem to find requirements for hunters ed and coyote hunting in different places than anyone else.
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
Post by: Becky on May 30, 2013, 11:13:25 AM
^^^ LOLI believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.No requirement to be able to read the text can be read to you. You seem to find requirements for hunters ed and coyote hunting in different places than anyone else.
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
They don't need to be able to read, or write, but they need to comprehend. They only fill in a bubble on the written test portion, no actual writing required. Actually no parental guardian required either.
The instructors DID say that it is being pushed to have 8+ as a minimum age to sign up for the class, that hasn't passed yet though.
We JUST completed our hunter's ed last week. For anyone 10 and under it was mandatory that an instructor read them the questions for the written test portion, they had no choice. Parents/guardians/ANY non-student or non-instructor were sent out of the class and everyone was split up on their own table for testing (and to avoid that same situation BigLukke just described with someone "helping" a younger student). I would definitely say 10 should be the minimum age. That was the minimum age of the passing students in class it seemed and the ones that were younger it was their second time in class. Quite a few of the youngest didn't make it though.
Post by: mossback91 on May 30, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
My Personal opinion is that the parent should be the one to decided when their child is ready to take the course and begin hunting. That being said there will always be those irresponsible parents out there.....
Post by: BiggLuke on May 30, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
I believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.No requirement to be able to read the text can be read to you. You seem to find requirements for hunters ed and coyote hunting in different places than anyone else.
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
:rolleyes: geez.... I said "I think the only requirement is..." lol.
Don't Take stuff personally. I don't "Make up stuff".
Post by: h20hunter on May 30, 2013, 12:17:44 PM
I believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.Hey!
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
Everyones looking for you over here >> http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126303.msg1675595/topicseen.html#new (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,126303.msg1675595/topicseen.html#new)
Now, considering the statement about not making stuff up and the above quote....that is some funny stuff!
Post by: Rooster1981 on June 09, 2013, 08:55:29 AM
I took my son when he was ten and he passed no problem, a big kid with a good attitude. My daughter is now ten and she is incredibly smart but is tiny. She can barely shoot her bb gun. So were waiting till she is twelve.
Post by: fieldking#1 on August 10, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
Post by: buglebuster on August 10, 2013, 05:25:02 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 10, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Post by: arees on August 12, 2013, 07:44:29 AM
When he was taking the test I was not allowed to sit near him which was fine with me. The instructors asked me to sit with someone else's child in case they had questions. The other father sat with my son. My son only asked one question about the meaning of one word. The child I sat with only asked a couple of questions about some phrases. I'm not sure how old the other child was, but both would have passed without the help. They did better than many of the adults taking the class.
My son is far more consistent and conscientious about firearm safety than I ever was. He is a good influence on me for safety issues in general and having him watching me makes me better because I don't want him to catch me making a mistake.
I dislike the idea of blanket age requirements. They are just an admission that the test does not work. Take the time to improve the test if you don't think it is working. Before you start making changes, present some evidence that there is a problem. I'm tired of hearing that we have to implement a bad change because there might be some problem sometime.
Post by: returnofsid on August 12, 2013, 08:45:21 AM
Post by: elkoholic on August 12, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on August 12, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Post by: lostbackpacker on August 12, 2013, 01:25:04 PM
They were great. they would help him on the test. by help, I mean they would explain the question different than the way it was written.
they did not let me do it, the instructors had to do that.
Post by: Smossy on August 12, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
My son took it when he was 7 years old. Think he got 97%. took it out in Granite Falls.Thats how it was out at Tacoma Sportsmans Club also, they explained it to all the kids. I think only one little girl failed thats all.
They were great. they would help him on the test. by help, I mean they would explain the question different than the way it was written.
they did not let me do it, the instructors had to do that.
Post by: See it,Shoot it on December 04, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 04, 2013, 07:16:43 PM
Post by: deltaops on December 06, 2013, 04:56:32 PM
My son took it just after he turned 9. He started showing an interest in hunting when he turned 8. From that point we went out as often as we could with his BB gun and taught him safety in firearms. Each and every time I handed him his BB gun we did the safety talk. I told him as well as my other boys that if they can show me responsibility with firearms we will move up to the next firearm. My son now has his own .243 and shot his first doe back in Oct during MF youth hunt. My other two boys have not shown the interest to much and are happy and content with a BB gun.
We as parents need to keep teaching our kids from the time they show interest until the time we are 6 feet under. Lazy parents and lazy kids is why the gov sets limits. Responsibility starts with the parents.
Post by: ghosthunter on December 06, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
^^^ LOLI believe I just read somewhere on the WDFW page that they are considering changing legislation to change the required minimum age.No requirement to be able to read the text can be read to you. You seem to find requirements for hunters ed and coyote hunting in different places than anyone else.
Not sure when that'll change.
But as for now... I think the only requirement is that they can read and write, and are accompanied by an adult.
I took it back when I was 12 and my little brother also went with, and was 10.
He only passed because my uncle sat with him through the written test.... and sort of... helped.
My parents made him take it again 2 years later. Funny story with that one.
They don't need to be able to read, or write, but they need to comprehend. They only fill in a bubble on the written test portion, no actual writing required. Actually no parental guardian required either.
The instructors DID say that it is being pushed to have 8+ as a minimum age to sign up for the class, that hasn't passed yet though.
We JUST completed our hunter's ed last week. For anyone 10 and under it was mandatory that an instructor read them the questions for the written test portion, they had no choice. Parents/guardians/ANY non-student or non-instructor were sent out of the class and everyone was split up on their own table for testing (and to avoid that same situation BigLukke just described with someone "helping" a younger student). I would definitely say 10 should be the minimum age. That was the minimum age of the passing students in class it seemed and the ones that were younger it was their second time in class. Quite a few of the youngest didn't make it though.
I have taught hunter Ed for over 20 years their is no rule which requires a instructor to read a test to a student. The instructor may offer to read the test. But is not required in any way to do so.
Some teaching teams may have that as their team rule. But it is not state required.
Post by: C-Money on December 06, 2013, 05:13:10 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on December 06, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
We do not need an age limit for these classes. Why would anyone want that? Saying this only helps set the standards of the government to keep limiting us. :bash:
My son took it just after he turned 9. He started showing an interest in hunting when he turned 8. From that point we went out as often as we could with his BB gun and taught him safety in firearms. Each and every time I handed him his BB gun we did the safety talk. I told him as well as my other boys that if they can show me responsibility with firearms we will move up to the next firearm. My son now has his own .243 and shot his first doe back in Oct during MF youth hunt. My other two boys have not shown the interest to much and are happy and content with a BB gun.
We as parents need to keep teaching our kids from the time they show interest until the time we are 6 feet under. Lazy parents and lazy kids is why the gov sets limits. Responsibility starts with the parents.
My son took it at 8 and passed. I have never had a 7 year old or younger pass it.
For every student under 8 that passes it ,there are 5 that cannot. The state has a lot of problems with attendance. People are signing up and not showing up. Thus the need for some fee to encourage them to show up or cancel in time to fill the seat.
So few students under 8 pass a traditional class that it is a waste of seat to have them in the class.
Before you flame me on this, I have done this for a long time in Skagit County ,I do not spend 20 hrs of my time to fail kids. I want them to succeed . But truth is most students under 8 are not ready.
And putting a younger kid in the class because a older brother or sister is ready to take it just a cop out by parents. Kids mature different.
But before anyone starts throwing rocks, I challenge you to join a teaching team and see for yourself. Anyone who wants to be a instructor or help in a Skagit County Class can PM me. My first class will be in Feb 2014. :twocents:
Post by: runningboard on December 08, 2013, 08:57:27 PM
:yeah:We do not need an age limit for these classes. Why would anyone want that? Saying this only helps set the standards of the government to keep limiting us. :bash:
My son took it just after he turned 9. He started showing an interest in hunting when he turned 8. From that point we went out as often as we could with his BB gun and taught him safety in firearms. Each and every time I handed him his BB gun we did the safety talk. I told him as well as my other boys that if they can show me responsibility with firearms we will move up to the next firearm. My son now has his own .243 and shot his first doe back in Oct during MF youth hunt. My other two boys have not shown the interest to much and are happy and content with a BB gun.
We as parents need to keep teaching our kids from the time they show interest until the time we are 6 feet under. Lazy parents and lazy kids is why the gov sets limits. Responsibility starts with the parents.
My son took it at 8 and passed. I have never had a 7 year old or younger pass it.
For every student under 8 that passes it ,there are 5 that cannot. The state has a lot of problems with attendance. People are signing up and not showing up. Thus the need for some fee to encourage them to show up or cancel in time to fill the seat.
So few students under 8 pass a traditional class that it is a waste of seat to have them in the class.
Before you flame me on this, I have done this for a long time in Skagit County ,I do not spend 20 hrs of my time to fail kids. I want them to succeed . But truth is most students under 8 are not ready.
And putting a younger kid in the class because a older brother or sister is ready to take it just a cop out by parents. Kids mature different.
But before anyone starts throwing rocks, I challenge you to join a teaching team and see for yourself. Anyone who wants to be a instructor or help in a Skagit County Class can PM me. My first class will be in Feb 2014. :twocents:
I have the record of every person who ever took one of my classes and only had one 7 year-old pass. her dad was/is a very avid outdoorsman and her mom is a school teacher who made sure that girl learned to read at an early age. she also comprehends what she is reading. they live where they can (and do) virtually shoot off their back porch anytime they get the urge.
most youngsters who fail won't take it again for fear of failure. had one 13 year-old take another's class three times before coming to me and passing. not the other teams fault, he just was not ready in his own mind and gave up because he failed before when he was too young.
Post by: deltaops on December 10, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
:yeah:We do not need an age limit for these classes. Why would anyone want that? Saying this only helps set the standards of the government to keep limiting us. :bash:
My son took it just after he turned 9. He started showing an interest in hunting when he turned 8. From that point we went out as often as we could with his BB gun and taught him safety in firearms. Each and every time I handed him his BB gun we did the safety talk. I told him as well as my other boys that if they can show me responsibility with firearms we will move up to the next firearm. My son now has his own .243 and shot his first doe back in Oct during MF youth hunt. My other two boys have not shown the interest to much and are happy and content with a BB gun.
We as parents need to keep teaching our kids from the time they show interest until the time we are 6 feet under. Lazy parents and lazy kids is why the gov sets limits. Responsibility starts with the parents.
My son took it at 8 and passed. I have never had a 7 year old or younger pass it.
For every student under 8 that passes it ,there are 5 that cannot. The state has a lot of problems with attendance. People are signing up and not showing up. Thus the need for some fee to encourage them to show up or cancel in time to fill the seat.
So few students under 8 pass a traditional class that it is a waste of seat to have them in the class.
Before you flame me on this, I have done this for a long time in Skagit County ,I do not spend 20 hrs of my time to fail kids. I want them to succeed . But truth is most students under 8 are not ready.
And putting a younger kid in the class because a older brother or sister is ready to take it just a cop out by parents. Kids mature different.
But before anyone starts throwing rocks, I challenge you to join a teaching team and see for yourself. Anyone who wants to be a instructor or help in a Skagit County Class can PM me. My first class will be in Feb 2014. :twocents:
I have the record of every person who ever took one of my classes and only had one 7 year-old pass. her dad was/is a very avid outdoorsman and her mom is a school teacher who made sure that girl learned to read at an early age. she also comprehends what she is reading. they live where they can (and do) virtually shoot off their back porch anytime they get the urge.
most youngsters who fail won't take it again for fear of failure. had one 13 year-old take another's class three times before coming to me and passing. not the other teams fault, he just was not ready in his own mind and gave up because he failed before when he was too young.
I understand the frustration when you have no shows or a kid doesn't pass because he couldn't comprehend.
I would like to see a fee imposed for when a youth signs up. The fee would be refunded on a passing score or maybe applied to the youths hunting license for that current hunting season. One does not pass or is a no show, no refund.
Maybe just impose a fee as stated above for everyone. :dunno:
To restrict someone because of age when they can comprehend may deter some. Then again this is only speculation and who knows, it could work, but I would just hate to see age restrictions when we already have so many restrictions when it comes to hunting in this State. :bash:
Post by: 7mmBuckley on December 16, 2013, 08:45:36 PM
Post by: Annette on December 27, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
Post by: Craig on December 31, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
Some how they split up my kids and put my son with another 9 year old . With a instructor that made it clear all week that kids under 12 should not be allowed to take the course. I'm sure my son was not perfect ( we could not walk the course with them). But I was there every second of the class and practice session and he did pretty good. We walked the course after the test and is was the hardest course I have ever seen. The two 9 year olds were the only ones to fail.
After he failed the field course he stayed and completed the course and passed the written test by himself. Just to get the experience .
I'm going to sign him up for the online course this year. He should do ok.
Post by: lokidog on December 31, 2013, 04:34:15 PM
I used to teach with a group in Lacey, was the field course down at Capital City Rifle and Pistol south of Littlerock? I thought that it was a good and fair course. I don't remember any bias toward younger participants, but it has been over ten years now.
Mine, at ten, hasn't quite decided if he wants to hunt yet, so I'm standing by on him getting motivated to do the online class.
Post by: Craig on December 31, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
The class was in Littlerock and it's a pretty tough course. Don't think they have cleared brush in 10 years.
Post by: billythekidrock on December 31, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 31, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but in public situations you support the organization you represent. If they feel that strongly they should step down.
We've had many wonderful students under age10.
Post by: coachcw on December 31, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
Post by: nw_bowhunter on April 21, 2014, 07:20:22 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 21, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
The class was out of Black Lake Fire Station in Tumwater. The head instructor was great and talked my son into staying and completing the class and take the test to see how he did. All of the instructors were great except 2-3 that were not shy about younger kids taking the class. They think they (WDFW) had dumbed down the class for younger kids and don't agree with it.
The class was in Littlerock and it's a pretty tough course. Don't think they have cleared brush in 10 years.
As instructor of many years, and one who dosent always agree with the dept. I would suggest you contact the Hunter Ed Dept. or write a factual letter.
Everyone one should remember you can appeal any Hunter Ed result to the Dept. and if your claim is founded. They can reverse any instructor decision if it is not suported by policiey.
That is a good way to get changes. :twocents:
Post by: huntingfool7 on April 21, 2014, 08:33:10 AM
Craig- You didn't post the reason given for your son failing. Didn't the instructor explain the reason for failing? Sometimes lessons learned while failing stick and it's better than a slap on the back, here's your card. Better to fail on a "hard" course than in the field.The class was out of Black Lake Fire Station in Tumwater. The head instructor was great and talked my son into staying and completing the class and take the test to see how he did. All of the instructors were great except 2-3 that were not shy about younger kids taking the class. They think they (WDFW) had dumbed down the class for younger kids and don't agree with it.
The class was in Littlerock and it's a pretty tough course. Don't think they have cleared brush in 10 years.
As instructor of many years, and one who dosent always agree with the dept. I would suggest you contact the Hunter Ed Dept. or write a factual letter.
Everyone one should remember you can appeal any Hunter Ed result to the Dept. and if your claim is founded. They can reverse any instructor decision if it is not suported by policiey.
That is a good way to get changes. :twocents:
All of the HS instructors I know pull for the kids and want to see them succeed. None take enjoyment in failing a student.
While it's not a surprise when an 8 or 9 year old doesn't make it, more pass than not. Almost all of them learn from their mistakes and pass the second time around. I call that time well spent teaching safety.
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