Post by: Mudman on March 24, 2013, 05:27:29 PM
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Post by: Mudman on March 24, 2013, 06:06:10 PM
Post by: 2labs on March 24, 2013, 09:59:51 PM
What are you guys running for tuners/programmers and mods specifically for towing? I have 01 f350 with the 6637 air filter, 4" turbo back exhaust, red tube wastegate mod, tran mods, and the Edge evolution programmer with guages and egt probe. Tow tune, performance and extreme. I like it and it is not a tranny killer like the old ones. I hear good things about DP tuners and others and am considering piggybacking a chip. I want a better tow tune then the edge. I pulled a 9000lb TT over blewitt snoq. and tiger summit and the tow tune is too weak. My egts reached 1030degrees floored at 60mph. I have room for more power to tow, 1200degrees would be ok I think. Im looking at the 80 or 60 tow tune from DP.
I have a 2000 f-350 with BD evolution chip, BD Trany.kit, BD torque converter, AFE intake. Something called a turbo fooler? More boost I think? All set up by Bethel automotive. I don't tow but it hauls my 3700lbs camper as fast you wanna go. Mileage is also improved. I would talk to bill at bethel. Good guy. Diesel performance is what they do.
Post by: actionshooter on March 24, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
I bought a 99, 6 speed thinking it would be good on fuel and the thing only get 16, 12 with the camper on.
I have been thin king about a tuner for economy.
Post by: Mudman on March 24, 2013, 10:06:40 PM
Post by: Mudman on March 24, 2013, 10:09:42 PM
Whats it do to your mileage?My mods helped with mileage. Air intake exhaust help and good economy tune will to. I get 16city and 18 to 20 hgwy. My camper didnt really change it much. Weighed 2500lbs. Mines an automatic tran. Stock it ran 15/18. So more power(alot) and little more mpgs.
I bought a 99, 6 speed thinking it would be good on fuel and the thing only get 16, 12 with the camper on.
I have been thin king about a tuner for economy.
Post by: 2labs on March 24, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
Whats it do to your mileage?
I bought a 99, 6 speed thinking it would be good on fuel and the thing only get 16, 12 with the camper on.
I have been thin king about a tuner for economy.
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Truck gets faster, mileage gets better! I get 18-22 empty on the hi way. Better than my ranger or explorer! Kinda funny huh. Go desiel
Post by: 2labs on March 24, 2013, 11:00:38 PM
Where is Bethel Auto. located? I have the trans. valve/accumulator mods and billet torq. conv. as well. I need to order the boost fooler froms beans or sumthing but am waiting to see if new tune makes boost fooler obsolete. What tran temps do you all see when pulling steep grades in tow? Im around 200degrees mostly and engine oil around 205degrees.
Hey Mudman, I don't have the gauges you do, so can't tell you temps. These are close to 5 year old mods. And no problems tranny fluid looks and smells good.shifts like a Manuel. No ford slip. bethel auto. Is off hi way 16 toward Port Orchard.
Post by: TommyH on April 04, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
Post by: bearpaw on April 04, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
Post by: hollymaster on April 04, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
Whats it do to your mileage?
I bought a 99, 6 speed thinking it would be good on fuel and the thing only get 16, 12 with the camper on.
I have been thin king about a tuner for economy.
I have the same thing and average 17-18 city, 19-20 freeway (and i don't *censored* foot drive it. :chuckle:) Only mod is no cat and 4" all the way back. Do you have any mods done? Larger than stock tires? If your tires are larger you have to account for the difference. I have to add 8.3 per hundred miles. :dunno:
Post by: tony04 on April 04, 2013, 08:44:59 PM
Whats it do to your mileage?
I bought a 99, 6 speed thinking it would be good on fuel and the thing only get 16, 12 with the camper on.
I have been thin king about a tuner for economy.
I've got a 99 6spd and average 17mpg on my gauge. But im also running 35" tires. Don't know how far the tires throw off the gauge though.. I've been wanting to chip or program also. Ill be following this thread. I'm putting on a banks turbo back 4" exhaust this weekend
Post by: Mudman on April 04, 2013, 09:17:39 PM
Does this tuning have any effect on engine longevity?I think better air and exhaust only help and responsible tunes/chips wont hurt and maybe help engine life. I do know if you get dumb/extreme you can hurt it many ways. High egts will fry her, hpop and injectors can be overtaxed running too hot or bad tunes. Mostly though your tranny in stock form will not last as long, guaranteed. Guages are highly recommended if tuning.
Post by: Mudman on April 04, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
Post by: 95powersmoker on April 07, 2013, 09:24:19 AM
First... I wouldn't suggest DP Tuner for a few reasons. First, I don't trust their tunes, I've seen a few motors open up with their tuning. Second, you pay for the chip, per tune and per reburn which is just silly now a days.
I would suggest you go with a TS based chip like some have said here. I had a Tony Wildman chip in my 95 and loved it. Mudman, FYI, you can't stack tuners. Adding a ts chip to your truck with the Edge programming on there will do nothing. The TS will override the programming of the Edge and the only gain you will see is the difference between crappy Edge tuning and much better Custom tunes from whomever on your TS chip.
First things before any tuner comes into play should be air intake, exhaust and gauges... At the very least, an EGT gauge to keep an eye on your engine temps. You can run 1200* all day but over 1250* for extended periods of time is not recommended.
Talk to the tuner you plan to buy from, call them up and talk about the options, most can tune out the overboost code anymore so no need for a boost fooler or boost annihilator. (All a boost fooler does is regulate what the PCM sees for boost numbers to a number set below 23-24psi where it then throws an overboost code. It doesn't change the boost that you are actually making.)
Some tuners I would call are TW, Swamps diesel, Beans Diesel, Gearhead Automotive...
Also, don't buy a chip for fuel economy... You will be disappointed. Fuel economy is dependent on your truck being mechanically sound, no lift and big tires, maintenance is key, and your driving style.
Hopefully that helps a little bit. I'm on my 4th 7.3 so I guess I have a thing for them.....
Post by: Mudman on April 07, 2013, 07:28:54 PM