Post by: huntrights on March 26, 2013, 03:40:30 PM
It's Back again (3/26/13)
ACTION ALERT: Act Now to Stop the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty
"The United Nations is currently in final negotiations for an Arms Trade Treaty (ATT). This treaty has the alleged goal of reducing the illicit trade in arms. However the ATT is massive in scope covering every conventional weapon, from battleships and missiles to your common deer hunting rifle and ammunition. This Treaty could have extremely negative consequences for traveling hunters and it is vital that the US oppose the inclusion of civilian firearms and ammunition in the scope of the Treaty. The ATT is currently undergoing final negotiations and we expect a resolution this week. We need your help NOW.
The ATT has been in the works for more than a decade, and SCI has continually and consistently monitored its progress to protect hunters from the threats that it could pose. SCI and our partners have continually lobbied to exclude hunting firearms and ammunition entirely from the scope of the treaty.
We need every SCI member and hunter to contact the State Department and urge Secretary Kerry to oppose this dangerous treaty.
Please click here to contact your legislators now"
http://www.scifirstforhunters.org/advocacy/contactcongressman
After you go to the link, press the "Take Action" button in the blue box "Tell the State Department to Oppose the Arms Trade Treaty". Fill in your information. You can edit the message if you choose to.
It's fast and easy.
Please take action and pass this on.
Post by: huntrights on March 26, 2013, 10:53:12 PM
This is serious folks! Use the contact tool, it only takes a couple of minutes!
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 27, 2013, 07:38:16 AM
Post by: Windwalker on March 27, 2013, 07:18:40 PM
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14931-final-version-of-arms-trade-treaty-released-disarmament-of-civilians-on-track (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14931-final-version-of-arms-trade-treaty-released-disarmament-of-civilians-on-track)
Final Version of Arms Trade Treaty Released; Civilian Disarmament on Track
NEW YORK — Just before noon on Wednesday, Australian ambassador and president of the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty conference, Peter Woolcott, released his final version of the global gun control agreement.
Upon publication of the document, Woolcott informed delegates that they have 24 hours to confer with their respective governments and then report tomorrow for a final vote.
Apart from a couple of technical reviews by the drafting committee scheduled to be completed by 2:00 p.m., this is the last revision of the document, and Woolcott said nations must now “take it or leave it.”
For so many reasons, the United States delegation must choose the latter option. A few sections of the proposed agreement are provided below, each of which would require the federal government to unconstitutionally infringe upon the right of Americans to keep and bear arms as protected by the Second Amendment.
To begin, the Preamble of the Arms Trade Treaty points to the United Nations Charter as the source of guiding principles upon which the agreement is based. Citizens of the United States, however, recognize God as the source of all rights they enjoy. Not even the Constitution claims to be the giver of rights; it is merely the protector of them.
The ultimate American statement on the issue of the provenance of rights was written by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
The UN would see the Declaration of Independence replaced by the Declaration of Human Rights and would have the Creator replaced with government as the source of rights.
Another paragraph of the Arms Trade Treaty’s preamble grants the United Nations the power to authorize “end users” and “end use” of conventional arms.
Where in the Constitution is an unelected and unaccountable body of international bureaucrats given the right to determine who is or is not authorized to buy, sell, or trade weapons?
Next, the Arms Trade Treaty preamble reaffirms the “sovereign right of any State to regulate and control conventional arms.” The federal government has no right whatsoever to regulate or control conventional arms. While the governments of the 50 states of the United States may exercise such control as part of their police power, the Second Amendment explicitly forbids the federal government from infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
Another provision declares “that civilians, particularly women and children, account for the vast majority of those adversely affected by armed conflict and armed violence.”
While on its face potentially true, during the 20th century, hundreds of millions of women and children were killed in wars started by the governments of the world. These conflicts employed weapons not in the hands of civilians, but under the control of “legitimate regimes.”
Given that the Arms Trade Treaty specifically grants the UN and “state parties” exclusive control over the manufacture, purchase, possession, sale, trade, and transfer of weapons of every size — from handgun to intercontinental missile — how can it claim to be the best hope of protecting women and children from armed conflict? In fact, in nearly every case of mass killings by government, the people targeted were first disarmed, leaving all weapons in the hands of government, preventing the people from resisting the march of tyranny.
Article 2 of the treaty defines the scope of the treaty’s prohibitions. The right to own, buy, sell, trade, or transfer the following items is regulated by the terms of the treaty:
(a) Battle tanks;
(b) Armoured [sic] combat vehicles;
(c) Large-calibre [sic] artillery systems;
(d) Combat aircraft;
(e) Attack helicopters;
(f) Warships;
(g) Missiles and missile launchers; and
(h) Small arms and light weapons.
Article 3 places the “ammunition/munitions fired, launched or delivered by the conventional arms covered under Article 2” within the scope of the treaty’s prohibitions, as well.
As the representative of one pro-gun control organization told this reporter last week, “Guns without bullets are no deadlier than baseball bats.” The UN plans to eventually rid the world of privately owned weapons; failing to do that, however, they will prevent the purchase (or reloading) of ammunition.
Reports around the country reveal that shortages of ammunition are already leaving many without rounds to use in their lawfully owned firearms.
Article 4 rounds out the regulations, placing all “parts and components” of weapons within the scheme, as well.
Perhaps the most immediate threat to the rights of gun owners in the Arms Trade Treaty is found in Article 5. Under the title of “General Implementation,” Article 5 mandates that all countries participating in the treaty “shall establish and maintain a national control system, including a national control list.”
This list should “apply the provisions of this Treaty to the broadest range of conventional arms.”
Should the U.S. delegation vote in favor of this treaty (and President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have both signaled that they should), the federal government will be obligated to begin compiling a list of who owns, buys, sells, trades, or transfers any of the weapons included in the list provided above, as well as the ammunition, parts, and components of those weapons.
After creating this database, the federal government will be required under the provisions of Article 5(4) of the Arms Trade Treaty to “provide its national control list to the Secretariat, which shall make it available to other States Parties.”
That’s right. The UN demands that the list of gun and ammo owners not only be in the hands of our own government, but be sent to foreign regimes, as well.
Americans are right to recognize this registry as the first step toward confiscation.
Without such a registry, it would be impossible to monitor weapon transfers effectively because governments can’t track weapons exchanges and transfers unless they know who has them to begin with.
Article 12 adds to the record-keeping requirement, mandating that the list include “the quantity, value, model/type, authorized international transfers of conventional arms,” as well as the identity of the “end users” of these items.
In very clear terms, the Arms Trade Treaty will require that the federal government of the United States force gun owners to add their names to the national registry. Citizens will be required to report the amount and type of all firearms and ammunition they possess.
Section 4 of Article 12 requires that the list be kept for at least 10 years.
Finally, the agreement instructs governments to take “appropriate measures” to enforce the terms of the treaty. If they can’t seem to get it done on their own, however, Article 16 provides for UN assistance, specifically including help with the enforcement of “stockpile management, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programmes.”
The conference will reconvene at UN headquarters tomorrow morning. Delegations will then vote on the treaty and report to their home governments.
Post by: Dave Workman on March 27, 2013, 07:23:18 PM
The final draft of the proposed United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) is out, and it contains language that may be incendiary to gun rights activists in the United States, with references to maintaining “national control systems” for small arms and ammunition.
http://www.examiner.com/article/proposed-arms-treaty-shows-un-is-its-own-worst-enemy?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/proposed-arms-treaty-shows-un-is-its-own-worst-enemy?cid=db_articles)
Post by: Windwalker on March 27, 2013, 08:11:09 PM
The link below may shine a light on it. There may be more amendments somewhere that were brought up- here is what I found with a quick search.
Looks like all it accomplished was to have it on record. Below is a copy of the running commentary.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r113:8:./temp/~r113H8fkyp:e846125: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r113:8:./temp/~r113H8fkyp:e846125:)
If this link shows up as a timed out search - enter "United Nations Arms Trade Treaty"
CONCURRENT BUDGET RESOLUTION ON THE BUDGET, FISCAL YEAR 2014 -- (Senate - March 22, 2013) [Page: S2318] should show up-
AMENDMENT NO. 710
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, there will be 2 minutes of debate equally divided in the usual form prior to a vote in relation to amendment No. 710 offered by Mr. Leahy.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, this amendment is very clear, and it anticipates another amendment coming up by another Senator. The United States negotiates treaties, for example, the Arms Trade Treaty . But under the Supreme Court, Reid v. Covert, 1956, our Constitution trumps any agreement made in a treaty by our government.
So all my amendment does is make clear that the United States should not agree to any arms trade treaty that would violate our second amendment rights. It is straightforward, it respects our constitutional rights, but it also gives our government the flexibility it needs to negotiate treaties.
I would be happy with a voice vote.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. If there is no further debate, the question is on agreeing to the amendment.
The amendment (No. 710) was agreed to.
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote and lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Washington.
AMENDMENT NO. 139
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, there will now be 2 minutes equally divided in the usual form prior to our final vote on amendment No. 139 offered by Mr. Inhofe.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I want to make sure that everyone understands what the United Nations trade treaty is. The trade treaty is a treaty that cedes our authority to have trade agreements with our allies in terms of trading arms .
I want to very briefly read this so nobody over there or over here misunderstands what this amendment does. This is right out of the amendment. Uphold the second amendment rights, that is one thing. And secondly, prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations arms trade treaties.
I retain the remainder of my time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Washington.
Mrs. MURRAY. Mr. President, I yield to the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, the Senator from Vermont.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, we are presently negotiating an arms trade treaty which will help to keep illicit firearms out of the hands of war criminals and terrorists. It is a humanitarian issue. We have people such as Joseph Kony who is out murdering children. He is able to do it because he is taking part in the international arms trade . We are trying to stop those things.
My earlier amendment makes it very clear, we cannot trump our own second-amendment rights, but we can stop these children from being killed because of this, and that is why I oppose the Inhofe amendment.
Let our negotiators negotiate. Any treaty still has to come back here to get a two-thirds vote anyway.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma has 18 seconds remaining.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, first of all, the idea that we would have to go to the international body to decide whether we would trade arms with Israel is pretty disgusting. I want to make sure everyone understands. This is the first time--probably the last time this year that we are going to have a chance, an opportunity to vote for our second amendment rights. I think my colleagues should take advantage of it.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the amendment.
Mr. INHOFE. I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Senator from New Jersey (Mr. LAUTENBERG) is necessarily absent.
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 53, nays 46, as follows:
The concurrent resolution S. Con. Res. 8, as amended, was agreed to.
(The concurrent resolution will be printed in a future edition of the RECORD.)
Mrs. MURRAY. I move to reconsider the vote, and I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Washington.
Mrs. MURRAY bla bla bla......
End result after two voice votes passed- suffering the need to be brought up twice- it was tabled by Murray.
Laid on Table in Senate
This version is a bill or resolution as laid on the table which disposes of it immediately, finally, and adversely via a motion without a direct vote on its substance.
Post by: csaaphill on March 27, 2013, 10:39:12 PM
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Post by: huntrights on March 28, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Take action; use the link in the first post. This is important.
Post by: csaaphill on March 29, 2013, 12:34:57 AM
done:yeah:
done earlier hope more do this.
Post by: huntnphool on March 29, 2013, 01:18:28 AM
Post by: bear hunter on March 29, 2013, 02:18:45 AM
Post by: huntrights on March 29, 2013, 06:55:20 PM
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/3/undead-un-arms-trade-treaty-lurches-forward-despite-second-failed-conference.aspx
NSSF Objects to U.S. Government Abandoning
Position that U.N. Treaty Must be based on International "Consensus"
http://www.nssf.org/NewsRoom/releases/show.cfm?PR=032913_UN.cfm&path=2013 (http://www.nssf.org/NewsRoom/releases/show.cfm?PR=032913_UN.cfm&path=2013)
This is very serious! Please encourage others to contact the State Department using the link in the first post. The ATT is an ominous threat to our rights and freedoms.
Post by: csaaphill on March 30, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
Post by: huntrights on April 02, 2013, 12:20:00 PM
This is very serious!
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,122112.0.html