Post by: Fishaholic on March 26, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
thanks
ddjj1991
Post by: kentrek on March 26, 2013, 08:33:16 PM
we slayed em up at a high lake a couple weeks ago and they were all spawning up high..no cutthroats tho..
Post by: Fishaholic on March 26, 2013, 08:37:55 PM
Post by: Fishaholic on March 26, 2013, 08:39:56 PM
Post by: kentrek on March 26, 2013, 08:42:01 PM
we cooked a couple up over the fire an they tasted normal
Post by: Fishaholic on March 26, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on March 27, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
Cutthroat are normally late winter spawners, so you might expect some to be "spawned out" now as well as some ready to spawn soon.
The meat should be good, as they do not go through the same stop feeding/body deterioration that salmon do. Especially in a small pond with a very short "run" to where they spawn.
Looking at the mouth may help tell the difference between males and females. Males tend to have a slightly larger looking jaw. But they often don't have the dramatically hooked jaw as in salmon.
Post by: Fishaholic on March 27, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Post by: kentrek on March 27, 2013, 11:17:40 AM
Bullkllr do you know about when there all done spawning ?? Is it a set time or just when ev the water warms up ? Is it different for other trout ??.....seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish after
Post by: sumbeech66 on March 27, 2013, 11:47:05 AM
Post by: Fishaholic on March 27, 2013, 12:09:24 PM
So are you against salmon and steelhead fishing in the rivers? since the only reason they are there is to spawn.
were does this come from? I love to fish for steelhead and salmon.
Post by: sumbeech66 on March 27, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish after
Post by: Bullkllr on March 27, 2013, 12:25:26 PM
Which lake ??? :chuckle: if i was near your area id think it wouldnt take much to find your "honey hole"...might wana get rid of some of those datails
Bullkllr do you know about when there all done spawning ?? Is it a set time or just when ev the water warms up ? Is it different for other trout ??.....seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish after
My guess is that those look like resident cutties. Although with access to salt there could be searun also. They are late winter/early spring spawners like rainbow/steelhead. Those are the ones I'm most familiar with, but I know browns are fall spawners.
I don't know how much spawn timing has to do with water temp. It seems like nature places the spawn for when warming water temps for the adults to spawn, and probably spring/early summer when the fry emerge from the gravel and will have decent feed conditions.
Resident cutts like those I'm guessing would make a short trip up the feeder stream, spawn and then likely return to the lake/pond in short order. Searuns are different. They will often stay in a stream all winter, even if they're not spawning. Or they can stay in the stream for months after spawning if they find decent food supply.
.....seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish after
So are you against salmon and steelhead fishing in the rivers? since the only reason they are there is to spawn.
Referring to Kentrek's statement. What I took from that is, yeah, its obviously better for the population to let the fish spawn, right. Local populations of cuttrhoat are pretty fragile, and taking too many or disrupting spawners would be bad on a very small scale population.
Every little crick and pond in the South Sound area used to have native cutts. With fishing pressure and development they are harder and harder to find.
Post by: sumbeech66 on March 27, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on March 27, 2013, 12:45:44 PM
Which lake ??? :chuckle: if i was near your area id think it wouldnt take much to find your "honey hole"...might wana get rid of some of those datails
Bullkllr do you know about when there all done spawning ?? Is it a set time or just when ev the water warms up ? Is it different for other trout ??.....seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish after
My guess is that those look like resident cutties. Although with access to salt there could be searun also. They are late winter/early spring spawners like rainbow/steelhead. Those are the ones I'm most familiar with, but I know browns are fall spawners.
I don't know how much spawn timing has to do with water temp. It seems like nature places the spawn for when warming water temps for the adults to spawn, and probably spring/early summer when the fry emerge from the gravel and will have decent feed conditions.
Resident cutts like those I'm guessing would make a short trip up the feeder stream, spawn and then likely return to the lake/pond in short order. Searuns are different. They will often stay in a stream all winter, even if they're not spawning. Or they can stay in the stream for months after spawning if they find decent food supply......seems like a guy would wana let them do there thing in order to keep the population up an fish afterSo are you against salmon and steelhead fishing in the rivers? since the only reason they are there is to spawn.
Referring to Kentrek's statement. What I took from that is, yeah, its obviously better for the population to let the fish spawn, right. Local populations of cuttrhoat are pretty fragile, and taking too many or disrupting spawners would be bad on a very small scale population.
Every little crick and pond in the South Sound area used to have native cutts. With fishing pressure and development they are harder and harder to find.
Too confuse the issue a bit further, 2 Sundays ago we fished the Raft for Steelies. We always hit cutties in there too but man were they really biting last trip. Really nice ones too!
Funny thing was some were as spotted and pretty as the ones DJ is catching but some were surely sea run as they were as bright as a steelie alomost with just a hint of the red under jaw color.
So are there resident and sea run? Or some just start way before others? Most of the time the sea runs seem to follow Salmon to feast on eggs.
And we have caught males with a hook jaw before.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 27, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
Letting people fish in rivers gives access to more condensed fish and for people who do not have saltwater boats, etc.
I've always been mostly a rivers guy myself.
Most experienced fishermen frown on fishing for fish that are actually in the act of spawning.
What's best for the fish is obviously not what's best for fishermen, and vice-versa.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 27, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
Yeah, there are searun and resident. Interesting write up here:http://seagrant.oregonstate.edu/sgpubs/onlinepubs/g99012.html (ftp://seagrant.oregonstate.edu/sgpubs/onlinepubs/g99012.html)
And yes, male cuttswill develop a hook in their jaw, just not nearly as dramatic a change as in say a spawning buck silver.
Post by: sumbeech66 on March 27, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
Op keep catching fish! (just not all of them) :tup:
Post by: Kc_Kracker on March 27, 2013, 01:22:56 PM
Post by: kentrek on March 27, 2013, 01:24:33 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on March 27, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
There can't be all that many lakes (or rivers/creeks) open right now in your area, so hopefully your secret honey hole stays that way, seems most could figure it out fairly easily with your description, your location, and the regs as to whats open right now. Just sayin. :tup:
Post by: Fishaholic on March 27, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on March 27, 2013, 01:59:26 PM
its not as easy as you think to find lol but i do put most of the fish back i only keep the bigger ones and i rarely do that. i enjoy catch and release. and no picture sorry
Good on you for returning most. Just remember that the larger ones are your brood stock.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on March 27, 2013, 02:36:51 PM
Post by: Fishaholic on March 27, 2013, 02:55:37 PM