Post by: nategood21 on April 01, 2013, 12:09:21 PM
I'm going for bobcats or similar things and sizes.
Post by: 3nails on April 01, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
Post by: nategood21 on April 01, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
also don't have that much money -.-
Post by: UrbanTrapper on April 01, 2013, 04:43:06 PM
Post by: hardkorrhunter on April 01, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
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Post by: Humptulips on April 01, 2013, 09:48:35 PM
What kind of doors do you have on your current traps?
Here's my take on the double door cat traps: I went down that road and here is the main problem you will have, It is just the length of the trap it takes to make it work. Usually a bait or scent or some kind of attractant is going to be used in a cat trap. So you put the bait/scent/attractant in the middle, the trap needs to be long enough for the cat to fit in one side. That means your trap ends up being twice the length of a single door. With a minimum length of a single door being 32" that means your double door trap ends up being over 5' long. I tried 4' and it won't work at least for me. Most single doors are 3' long and that puts you at 6' long.
Do you really want to pack something like that around?
I used a trigger similar to the ones I use in the swim throughs. With a little thought you can make that work with an outward opening door but you will have a conibear type trigger. That works but it rules out a peddle type trigger. You may have to rethink what you are going to do with your attractant.
With a tall trap that makes for a lot of door sticking out. I do not think that is good. I hinged from the side with a power door. Door lock is then a problem on an outward opening door.
I honestly think you should be able make a single door work. If I knew more about your attempts this year maybe I could offer some advice.
You can copy or design but it still leaves you with the length problem and what to do with the attractant.
Wish I was more help.
Post by: nategood21 on April 01, 2013, 10:01:15 PM
I was planning on making it taller the side power door is an interesting idea. how would the door stay closed? i fear that they would stick a paw in the wire and pull it open.
Post by: Humptulips on April 02, 2013, 12:53:45 PM
My suggestions for this same type trap:
Taller trap, minimum 18", 3' deep
Move pan back towards door, I think at least 12" behind pan.
Solid pan, you can cover the pan with old carpet, plywood, shingle but it needs to solid for the cat to step on it.
Cover floor with dirt/leaves
Cover trap well, sides and back.
Good bait like beaver, rabbit, chicken, mountain beaver
Wire smaller bait outside trap nearby
If you don't connect in two weeks move trap, Could fudge on that if sign dictates.
You need several traps. It is so easy for a cat trap to be set where nothing will happen or where an individual cat just won't go in a trap. Increase your traps= increased opportunity
My traps with the side opening door are like the swim thorough design so the springs hold them closed. A cat or any other animal cannot pull them open. A locking system for an outward opening trap? I haven't thought of a plan that suits me yet. Still thinking on it.
Post by: nategood21 on April 03, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
Post by: Humptulips on April 03, 2013, 08:57:32 PM
So you're thinking 18" tall 3' long, the pan having a foot gap from the back? how exactly do you rig up the door to do the side close? i have an idea how to do it but do you have any pics of a side close with trigger setup?
I can take some pics tomorrow but they are exactly like my swimthroughs only 10 wide x18 high. In fact the ones I used are swimthroughs I made and used, 10x18x48 I caught beaver, otter and even a couple rats in them. Then I turned them on their side, only opened one door and used them for cats late in the season. Out of 5 traps caught either 6 or 7 cats in those traps. Don't remember what all I caught in the water except I do remember one particular trap, ( maybe my favorite now) that I caught 2 beaver, 1 otter and 2 big tom cats in.
Post by: dbfalls on April 04, 2013, 05:57:50 AM
Post by: nategood21 on April 11, 2013, 11:02:07 PM
Anyone have any ideas or pictures to help solve my problem.
Post by: Humptulips on April 12, 2013, 10:41:13 PM
Post by: nategood21 on April 13, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Post by: Humptulips on April 13, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
so the conibear trigger would be sticking out from the side instead of hanging from the top? Yep. would i need to change the way the wire is bent or would it be fine the way it is? You can bend it any way you want to suit you. I have been leaving it spread for watdr sets and bending them close together and angled down a bit to create an opening for the cat to see over. i was also curious, do you have any problems with the conibear trigger freezing up because its attached to the smooth bar? No but I get very few hard freezes here. I do think the danger of freezing the trigger up would be less then other designs.