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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: irishevox on April 04, 2013, 09:36:08 AM

Title: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: irishevox on April 04, 2013, 09:36:08 AM: I always see this small Black Tail doe running with a much much larger (almost even big for a white tail doe) on Whidbey Island. The smaller one has really patchey fur different colors like light here and there and then darker areas... i never got a pic of her, i will try and get one soon. but they are always are out and about by the school and near my house. at night and some early mornings. Is there something wrong with the other deer why it is so patchy. B/c if she keeps roaming by my house when the season kicks off i am gonna take her. So does anyone know anything about this... is she maybe sick? or got hit by a car? any ideas?
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: smdave on April 04, 2013, 09:39:53 AM: I just think it is normal this time of year.

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Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: washelkhntr on April 04, 2013, 09:43:14 AM: It's normal this time of year here on the island. There all over the place looking like that. Always looks worse than it is.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: irishevox on April 04, 2013, 09:49:03 AM: i hope so. b/c she is getting bigger.. and she is so pretty... the bigger one... is just super clean i said i would never mount a doe but if i snag her next year (the big one) i would mount her.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: motg9_6 on April 04, 2013, 03:47:45 PM: just to be clear this CAN be a normal thing in the spring time but all over the state they are starting to suffer from some kind of hair lose disease. ive herd its lice and other things looks just like this. they are like this year round at my place and we have lost several winter kills due to this and it wasnt even a hard winter at all. after time all you will se is just skin no hair.
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Post by: madmack76 on April 04, 2013, 04:12:23 PM: the deer around here do that to but come the end of summer there all pretty and fat again.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: Smossy on April 04, 2013, 04:15:36 PM: Yeah I just posted a video the other day of one of those. My thoughts were the same..
Heres the link.

Sounds like from replys its just shedding its winter coat.

Mangy Deer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYj-K6bNUBU#ws)
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: arees on April 04, 2013, 04:38:43 PM: We have deer in Redmond that are patchy all year.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: whackmaster 93 on April 04, 2013, 11:18:25 PM: i heard its from some type of slug that leaves its slime on leaves and the deer eat the leaves and get some sort of disease.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: sirfunkeybut on April 04, 2013, 11:59:19 PM: I've heard normal as well but could be lice aw well. I killed a doe a couple years back with it, I asked the wdfw and they said when they get the lice, they'll rub themselves on trees and loose hair, he said there was a possabillity she would've died come winter from not having hair. This was all in early season so she wouldn't have been shedding
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: AKBowman on April 07, 2013, 10:30:02 AM: Quote from: irishevox on April 04, 2013, 09:49:03 AM
i hope so. b/c she is getting bigger.. and she is so pretty... the bigger one... is just super clean i said i would never mount a doe but if i snag her next year (the big one) i would mount her.

Not sure how your wife would feel about that :chuckle:
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: irishevox on April 07, 2013, 12:26:49 PM: Quote from: AKBowman on April 07, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: irishevox on April 04, 2013, 09:49:03 AM
i hope so. b/c she is getting bigger.. and she is so pretty... the bigger one... is just super clean i said i would never mount a doe but if i snag her next year (the big one) i would mount her.

Not sure how your wife would feel about that :chuckle:
ur so dirty lol

lol yo
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: dreamunelk on April 07, 2013, 08:14:23 PM: The slug comment is incorrect for hair slip. Currently the louse in question is an Asiatic louse so it is believed to have come in on Asiatic deer.
As for slugs well there is a little confusion it is actually snails. They are responsible for part of the life cycle of liver flukes. Something that B.T. have somewhat of a resistance too. It is fairly common but, low numbers in each healthy animal because of some ability to resist a severe case but, if they are combating the louse then there immunity system becomes stressed and they could very well end up with a severe case.

Check this link out for a diagram of the liver fluke cycle.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.michigan.gov/images/liverflukecycle_99354_7.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/1,1607,7-153-10370_12150_12220-26639--,00.html&h=355&w=500&sz=23&tbnid=xnpdPIGuo7e4XM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=127&zoom=1&usg=__KcqgP7DdJheWeAFecuVzYabNAoU=&docid=NtxX9BxoooHewM&sa=X&ei=VzNiUaeRE-mUiAK8r4HADg&ved=0CDsQ9QEwAg&dur=348 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.michigan.gov/images/liverflukecycle_99354_7.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/1,1607,7-153-10370_12150_12220-26639--,00.html&h=355&w=500&sz=23&tbnid=xnpdPIGuo7e4XM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=127&zoom=1&usg=__KcqgP7DdJheWeAFecuVzYabNAoU=&docid=NtxX9BxoooHewM&sa=X&ei=VzNiUaeRE-mUiAK8r4HADg&ved=0CDsQ9QEwAg&dur=348)

If the link does not work just Google "Deer Liver Fluke Cycle".

Also the deer mostly lick the hair off.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: fireweed on April 07, 2013, 08:20:25 PM: Classic deer with hair loss (not normal shedding) Lots of deer in low elevation SW Wash have hair loss. In fact, it is now pretty rare to see deer without it in my area. Had one fawn die under the porch. Thought it would make it through, then a late march cold front hit and she didn't make it. Heard about the slug/snail-lice theory. Now we have elk with severe hoof rot, too. But we're not worried. Once the wolves get here we won't have to worry about elk or deer at all.
(You'll be ok on the island)
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: coonhound on April 09, 2013, 08:51:06 PM: In my area the hair loss has decimated the Blacktail population. It's most prevalent in late winter early spring, if it stays wet and cold it will take it's toll. I've heard it generally isn't present in deer that live above 2000 ft, of course a hard winter will prevent that? I've found numerous deer this time of year that have died from it.
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: irishevox on April 09, 2013, 09:43:27 PM: :'( dying deer not good... unless we kill them legally and eat the meat :EAT:
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: bmccalister on April 22, 2013, 07:29:50 PM: It is called deer hair loss syndrome. Here is some info from WDFW.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/health/hair_loss/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/health/hair_loss/)
Title: Re: BLACK TAIL WITH PATCHEY HAIR
Post by: Hilltop123 on April 22, 2013, 07:42:39 PM: x