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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: birdstew on April 04, 2013, 01:26:45 PM

Title: Archery ELK
Post by: birdstew on April 04, 2013, 01:26:45 PM: With my Job i meet a lot of people and have lived in a few different states. I lived in Washington State 2000-2007 i meet a guy and this is how he hunted. I just moved back to Washington Sep 2012 and now work with a guy that does the same thing. So that's what brought me to ask this question. Also have meet a few that has someone else buy a tag shot the animal then bring the friend out to tag the animal.
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Post by: dkecoleman on April 04, 2013, 01:27:59 PM: I would hate to, but would let it walk
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 04, 2013, 01:34:11 PM: Its kinda a no brainer. Don't leave home with out an elk tag.
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Post by: olypen archer on April 04, 2013, 01:38:37 PM: Shooting it then getting caught without a tag is a surefire way to give the anti hunting groups more ammo. That and the local warden is the master of busting elk poachers. Buy the tags first.
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Post by: dreamunelk on April 04, 2013, 01:42:44 PM: A hunter would let it walk and poacher would not! In other words the question is are you a hunter or a criminal. Big difference in my book.
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Post by: IBspoiled on April 04, 2013, 01:53:26 PM: Call me and i will take care of it for you :chuckle:
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Post by: Johnb317 on April 04, 2013, 01:56:16 PM: Whatcha doing walking out in Elk country w/out a tag?!

Let it walk and cry like baby.....
I'd at least have the camera out.
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Post by: MikeC on April 04, 2013, 03:43:58 PM: I would most definitely SHOOT IT! With my camera if I could see through the tears... :'( :'(
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Post by: Band on April 04, 2013, 04:27:39 PM: A criminal would shoot it. A complete moron would admit on a hunting forum that he would shoot it.
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Post by: hughjorgan on April 04, 2013, 04:41:34 PM: Let it walk. Make sure to buy the combo next time, so there is no ethical dilemma.
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Post by: christopheri on April 04, 2013, 04:42:05 PM: I would never put myself in that situation. I alway have my Deer, Elk, Bear and Cougar tags with me.
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Post by: Bhunter253 on April 04, 2013, 05:09:05 PM: :bdid: never go out without both. I would most definitely let it walk.
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Post by: norsepeak on April 04, 2013, 05:11:48 PM: this happened to me last year!!!! Honest, it was the new world record bull, no kidding! :chuckle:
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Post by: coachcw on April 05, 2013, 06:30:10 AM: Why would you not have a tag ? that guys a scum bag that only screws us that follow the rules. I shoot a 5x5 once then a big old 6x6 stepped out urrrrr.......
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Post by: TheHunt on April 05, 2013, 06:54:05 AM: Geze... I would never do that as I love to hunt. I am not sure what I would do if I was not able to hunt because I did something as stupid as this question described.
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Post by: Bullkllr on April 05, 2013, 07:33:51 AM: I imagine not having a tag could be because you have an elk tag for a different weapon.

Still a rather pointless question.
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Post by: pendoreilleadventures on April 05, 2013, 08:11:06 AM: What a dumb question :bdid:
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Post by: bearpaw on April 05, 2013, 08:17:56 AM: Quote from: dreamunelk on April 04, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
A hunter would let it walk and poacher would not! In other words the question is are you a hunter or a criminal. Big difference in my book.

:yeah: very well said....
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Post by: 270Flat on April 05, 2013, 08:20:16 AM: Let it walk... Archery deer hunter and modern elk hunter
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Post by: PolarBear on April 05, 2013, 08:22:55 AM: Quote from: dreamunelk on April 04, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
A hunter would let it walk and poacher would not! In other words the question is are you a hunter or a criminal. Big difference in my book.
:yeah:
It seems by looking at the poll numbers that we have a few poachers on here. The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.
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Post by: duckmen1 on April 05, 2013, 08:25:01 AM: People laugh at me for buying every possible tag and license you can think of so that will happen as little as possible. Last year I spent about 800 on licenses.
But it has happened a few times before and will happen again. And I will always let them walk. Always have always will.
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Post by: Fullabull on April 05, 2013, 08:31:08 AM: so what this sounds like to me is a guy wanting a second elk tag by having someone else (not a hunter) by a tag so he can shoot another (second) elk.... That is poaching!
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Post by: bobcat on April 05, 2013, 08:40:42 AM: Quote from: birdstew on April 04, 2013, 01:26:45 PM
With my Job i meet a lot of people and have lived in a few different states. I lived in Washington State 2000-2007 i meet a guy and this is how he hunted. I just moved back to Washington Sep 2012 and now work with a guy that does the same thing. So that's what brought me to ask this question. Also have meet a few that has someone else buy a tag shot the animal then bring the friend out to tag the animal.

This is why the state needs to have a deadline for the sale of tags, just like Oregon. The deadline should be the day before the season starts for that tag. Then this type of thing wouldn't be happening.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on April 05, 2013, 09:31:42 AM: Related to this thread:
the day before muzzy deer opener 2009. I was scouting for the next day/bear hunting. I had a wide 4x4 whitetail at 80 yards that would be legal in 12 hours. Didn't shoot it. It's worth it to resist, makes you confident in your moral code.
Title: Re: Archery ELK
Post by: crazysccrmd on April 05, 2013, 09:51:45 AM: Quote from: Jonathan_S on April 05, 2013, 09:31:42 AM
Related to this thread:
the day before muzzy deer opener 2009. I was scouting for the next day/bear hunting. I had a wide 4x4 whitetail at 80 yards that would be legal in 12 hours. Didn't shoot it. It's worth it to resist, makes you confident in your moral code.

Similar deal for me. l was out on the last day of modern late elk (modern late deer started the next day) and had a nice 4pt Blacktail step out in front of me. He then proceeded to walk down the trail I was on straight at me until he was about 30m away, stopped, watched me, and then walked into the brush. I had the tags in my pocket and everything, just couldn't bring myself to take risk losing everything over shooting one nice deer.
Title: Archery ELK
Post by: JamesK. on April 05, 2013, 11:11:21 AM: Quote from: bobcat on April 05, 2013, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: birdstew on April 04, 2013, 01:26:45 PM
With my Job i meet a lot of people and have lived in a few different states. I lived in Washington State 2000-2007 i meet a guy and this is how he hunted. I just moved back to Washington Sep 2012 and now work with a guy that does the same thing. So that's what brought me to ask this question. Also have meet a few that has someone else buy a tag shot the animal then bring the friend out to tag the animal.

This is why the state needs to have a deadline for the sale of tags, just like Oregon. The deadline should be the day before the season starts for that tag. Then this type of thing wouldn't be happening.

Agreed!
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 05, 2013, 11:16:56 AM: I could not agree with you guys more. Tag sales stop the day before seasons starts. It would really help cut down on dishonest people poaching animals and then buying a tag after killing a animal.
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Post by: Dhoey07 on April 05, 2013, 11:22:37 AM: Last day of elk last year, i let an absolute masher blacktail walk. I PRAY that i will one day see another that big
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Post by: sakoshooter on April 05, 2013, 04:40:07 PM: Really cannot believe ANYONE would check the other box. Either they're being sarcastic or they're not really hunters.
Title: Archery ELK
Post by: Elkgetr2 on April 05, 2013, 05:50:05 PM: I agree that Washington should implement a tag dead line..
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Post by: duckmen1 on April 06, 2013, 09:25:55 AM: That would be great. I always seem to hear people say they will buy tags later. Makes me mad. i think that would solve a lot of questioning.
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Post by: Fullabull on April 06, 2013, 09:32:38 AM: Stopping tag sales before the season starts is not going to stop someone from poaching like this. They will just have that friend or whomever buy the tag anyway before the season and still go out and poach. This is an ethical situation where someone is willing to break the law to take more game than what they are allowed under the law... They need to be turned it!!!
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Post by: Curly on April 06, 2013, 11:08:40 AM: Quote from: sakoshooter on April 05, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
Really cannot believe ANYONE would check the other box. Either they're being sarcastic or they're not really hunters.

:yeah:
I was amazed that anybody checked that box. :yike:
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Post by: gonehuntin68 on April 06, 2013, 11:11:30 AM: Let him walk, cause I would be the guy that would get caught. :'(
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on April 08, 2013, 09:54:27 AM: Ive always wanted to shoot a cat but never seen one in the wild till a few years ago...i always have a cougar tag in my pocket but never a small game lisence and was deer hunting and a huge bobcat walked out of the timber and stood around for 10min and i had to sit and watch it :bash: never again will that happen
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Post by: TheFewTheProud on April 08, 2013, 10:09:14 AM: I caught the biggest blacktail I have ever seen bedded down in a clearcut about 30 yds away, the day before the season. I could have shot him six times before he even stood up... to this day I haven't seen a deer that even came close to it. It haunts my dreams.
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Post by: mulehunter on April 08, 2013, 10:40:09 AM: :o let me figure out. Here Post for 4 days, 114 votes not to kill and let it walk and 11 vote would try to kill with out a tag which is 10% poaching

If 200,000 purchase tags thur WDFW and 10% would be 20,000 hunter with out tag would try to Poaching. :yike:
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Post by: pendoreilleadventures on April 08, 2013, 11:25:31 PM: Quote from: mulehunter on April 08, 2013, 10:40:09 AM
:o let me figure out. Here Post for 4 days, 114 votes not to kill and let it walk and 11 vote would try to kill with out a tag which is 10% poaching

If 200,000 purchase tags thur WDFW and 10% would be 20,000 hunter with out tag would try to Poaching. :yike:

:o
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Post by: Jellymon on April 08, 2013, 11:42:22 PM: First year bow hunting deer I walked around a clump of trees in a downpoor and 30yds broadside rubbing a tree was a huge bull. It was archery elk season but I didnt have an archery elk tag. Shooting him never crossed my mind.

Remember, you are who you are when nobody is watching.
Title: Re: Archery ELK
Post by: Dbax129 on April 09, 2013, 12:48:03 AM: Quote from: mulehunter on April 08, 2013, 10:40:09 AM
:o let me figure out. Here Post for 4 days, 114 votes not to kill and let it walk and 11 vote would try to kill with out a tag which is 10% poaching

If 200,000 purchase tags thur WDFW and 10% would be 20,000 hunter with out tag would try to Poaching. :yike:

I think its even worse than that. This sample of 125 isn't random. Its a sample of people that are so interested in the sport, that they read about it, and talk about it, and think about it, and have a major exposure to ethical hunters by being a part of this forum. I think that forum members probably have a much smaller percentage of poachers than people who just hunt when its time, who don't have any desire to be a part of a community like those who joined this forum did.
Title: Re: Archery ELK
Post by: donnyp96 on April 09, 2013, 02:13:22 PM: In my opinion it wouldn't even be a question I would have to much to lose because not only is it a hobby and passion it helps to feed my family.
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Post by: mtman on April 09, 2013, 02:59:24 PM: It seems to be a question about trophy hunting. I Could not be proud of a trophy I did not earn. During archery deer I am out Bear hunting with a rifle, I would say every year I see atleast one 6 point bull I could kill. If we all cheated just because the chance came up we would not have The kind of hunting we do.
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Post by: throttlejocky20 on April 09, 2013, 07:30:59 PM: Watched a beautifull 7X7 bull wallow and play within archery range a day before the season opened. Let him walk never to be seen by me again! I think you wouldnt be human if you didnt have thoughts of shooting its how you react that makes you a criminal or a sportsman!