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Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: uplandhunter870 on April 08, 2013, 10:51:35 AM
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so for the upcoming deer season im seriously wanting to step my hunting up a notch, more of the hike in a few miles from the truck and live/hunt out of my pack for a few days compared to the park the rig hunt all day and return to the rig at night style.
i honestly do not know much about this type of hunting and am new to the backpacking world, although i do believe i have enough of the basic skills to not die while on a camping trip
what im looking at is hiking in a few miles from the rig (get away from the roads and people) not necessarily high hunt wilderness trip, but once im in a few miles find a place to camp for two or three days. looking at packing in a tent, sleeping bag and pad, camping gear essentials (MSR white gas stove, camp dishes, couple liters of water, food map compass gps etc) Hunting essentials (weapon rifle/bow, ammo, binos/spotter, rangefinder, misc required items) and of course ability to pack an animal out if im so fortunate along with packing out my gear taken in.
i know packs can be a very personalized item so some info on me is im 5' 9" and weigh in at 260 currently, im a bigger sized dude and am working on slimming down but im still just a naturally big dude.
ive looked at few packs like mystery ranch and eberlestock but mostly out of curiousity, i dont really know what to look for specifically that will make a pack ok versus good versus great, although i dont see the mystery ranch (crew cab pack specifically) fitting the bill just cause i cant see where all the gear would do with becoming cumbersome and sloppy
so with that info and all of your personal experiences what would you recommend for a multi-day sized pack that is suited towards hunting?
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1st and most important question is what is your price range?
They really run the spectrum.
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i havent really given that much thought, of course id love to get one on the cheap but i know you get what you pay for and quality isnt cheap.
i dont have a problem spending decent money on quality dependable proven gear but i dont want to take out a loan either :chuckle:
id say 400 max but wont rule out good gear thats around the $200 range either as long as its quality gear
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$400 will get you an Eberlestock or a Badlands 4500 or something like that unless you go used. If you want to go with a backpacking/REI style pack and not a hunting specific pack, that would open up more options. Mystery Ranch, Kifaru and the like I don't think you'll touch for $400.00 unless you go used and a few years old with some miles on them.
I have an Eberlestock J107 and it works well. For example, last fall I did a 4 day hunting trip and it was maxed out size-wise, but I am still working with sort of "beginner" level gear and haven't gone to the ultralight/ultracompact stuff. I did an overnighter on Mt Adams in July, non hunting trip and it was plenty big. There are better options, but you're going to drop some bigger $$. I think theres a J107 in the classifieds right now for $325 or there abouts. The scabbard on the Eberle packs is nice. People complain that they are too heavy at 7-8 pounds. There's a Sitka Flash 30 in the classifieds here which is 3200 cubic inches. I think that pack is borderline not big enough, at least with my gear, but it is a nice pack and a good price. Something to consider.
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They actually just had a badlands 4500 for $299 on camofire.com the other day. Very nice bag.
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I personally use a cabelas frame pack that I received as a gift a couple years ago. They got it at the bargain cave for $180. I hauled loads 120lbs + and although it sucked (mostly because the pack weighed so damn much) the pack held true. It has a very large main compartment that held meat and camp fine with some midline ul/minimalist gear. I would love to go get a kifaru or stone glacier, but with the $700-800 price tag, I can upgrade a heap of other gear and still have that damn cabelas pack that really works fine.
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i like my eberlestock blue widow
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thanks for the pointers thus far everyone.
$400 will get you an Eberlestock or a Badlands 4500 or something like that unless you go used. If you want to go with a backpacking/REI style pack and not a hunting specific pack, that would open up more options. Mystery Ranch, Kifaru and the like I don't think you'll touch for $400.00 unless you go used and a few years old with some miles on them.
Jackelope-- Im not dead set on a hunting specific brand pack, what i guess im after more is a good quality pack that can hold all the gear a person would need for 3-4 days afield and have ability to pack out meat.
so a north face pack, high sierra, mystery ranch or eberlestock it doesnt matter to me as long as its a good pack that works and i can afford it, heck it could even be neon colored. yeah a rifle/bow scabbard would be nice to have but im sure i can figure out a way to lash my weapon to any pack
thanks again
Uplander
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i like my eberlestock blue widow
me too :tup:
ET
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The LL Bean one in this thread interests me too, as you could just strap bivy bag on and go! Plus it's cheap
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120170.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120170.0.html)
ET
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check out some of the nimrod stuff too . they are local and fit us bigger guys pretty well from what i hear. im 6' 250 and looking at getting a nimrod now too,
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I've spent the whole offseason researching back packs. I finally decided to give the Kifaru Bikini with the DT1 a shot, and I"ll let you know in a few weeks if it's worth the price tag.
That being said, as mentioned earlier, backpacks seem to come in a variety of sizes, shapes, functionalities, weights, and prices. You have to look at a couple of different things. Many "hiking" packs aren't designed to carry the giant loads hunters will have to carry upon successful harvest of an animal. That's not saying they won't, it's just that it won't be a lot of fun. And who wants a strap to break 10 miles from the road...
So the basic functionality you want is a pack that will put the weight on your hips, and off your shoulders. This is done with the use of a good comfortable waist belt that's tight, and functional load lifters. Functional meaning, they actually freaking work. Lots of load lifters are there for looks and don't quite lift the load off your shoulders.
In your price range I'd look at a Sitka, Badlands, or possibly grabbing a used KUIU. I know there is a used Kifaru T2 over on Rokslide for like 629.
Next you want to look at barreling in the frame. Many sheet frames and internal packs will barrel (meaning flex from flat) and cause the load to shift away from your body a bit. This isn't desireable, but also isn't a big deal. You also want a pack that will carry your loads high, and you want to try and avoid getting the bowling ball syndrome in the bottom of your pack.
I've had a serious revelation this year, with gear. I've gotten tired of investing in cheap to moderate gear over and over again. I did some serious upgrades this year and haven't looked back.
Without going to crazy, I'd say you can get away with a Solo or T2 (DT2) from Kifaru for not much more then what your spending limit is. I'd also recommend trying out some packs so you can really see the difference in quality.
My pack should be here April 17th give or take...I can't wait to post my review!
Good luck in your pack shopping! It's a lot of fun!
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Look for a Dana Design either internal or external frame pack.They fetch a decent price but work real well
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For $439 you can get a Mystery Ranch Longbow. It has enough room in the bag to carry 3-4 days worth of gear. Furthermore ( this is why I bought it). You can put meat between the bag and the frame, while at the same time carrying ALL your gear. I have used it as a day pack, and as a bivy hunting pack. I have boned out meat and carried it in the bag and I have also sandwhiched a quarter of elk between the bag and frame with gear in my bag. Both work well. Very comfortable and durable pack. The 3 zip design is awesome. If I have a rain jacket stuffed in the bottom of my bag I don't have to dump my bag to get to it like other packs. I unsold it down and pull out the jacket. This feature is priceless. It also has inside pockets which seperate and organize gear well. I LOVE them. Check it out.
http://www.mysteryranch.com/hunting/nice-frame-packs/nice-longbow-pack (http://www.mysteryranch.com/hunting/nice-frame-packs/nice-longbow-pack)
Here's a few pics of it in action
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Now if you want something with more bag space than 2,400 cubic inches than check out the brand new Metcalf. This will be my next bag. It costs $469 and seems to be a great pack. Same concept as the Longbow, just a bigger bag. The nice thing about the Mystery Ranch NICE frame is once you have it you can use the Longbow for a day pack/meat hunter and then you can take it off and put on the 6500 bag if your doing a 10day bivy hunt.
http://blog.mysteryranch.com/2013/02/nice-metcalf/ (http://blog.mysteryranch.com/2013/02/nice-metcalf/)
Here's some more propoganda :chuckle: a bunch of pictures of Mystery Ranch packs hauling meat and gear.
http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=245278 (http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=245278)
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I've heard some mixed reviews on the NICE frame, but at 10 pounds...it seems you would be better off getting an equivalent pack at more then half the weight...with functional load lifters.
For $439 you can get a Mystery Ranch Longbow. It has enough room in the bag to carry 3-4 days worth of gear. Furthermore ( this is why I bought it). You can put meat between the bag and the frame, while at the same time carrying ALL your gear. I have used it as a day pack, and as a bivy hunting pack. I have boned out meat and carried it in the bag and I have also sandwhiched a quarter of elk between the bag and frame with gear in my bag. Both work well. Very comfortable and durable pack. The 3 zip design is awesome. If I have a rain jacket stuffed in the bottom of my bag I don't have to dump my bag to get to it like other packs. I unsold it down and pull out the jacket. This feature is priceless. It also has inside pockets which seperate and organize gear well. I LOVE them. Check it out.
http://www.mysteryranch.com/hunting/nice-frame-packs/nice-longbow-pack (http://www.mysteryranch.com/hunting/nice-frame-packs/nice-longbow-pack)
Here's a few pics of it in action
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Now if you want something with more bag space than 2,400 cubic inches than check out the brand new Metcalf. This will be my next bag. It costs $469 and seems to be a great pack. Same concept as the Longbow, just a bigger bag. The nice thing about the Mystery Ranch NICE frame is once you have it you can use the Longbow for a day pack/meat hunter and then you can take it off and put on the 6500 bag if your doing a 10day bivy hunt.
http://blog.mysteryranch.com/2013/02/nice-metcalf/ (http://blog.mysteryranch.com/2013/02/nice-metcalf/)
Here's some more propoganda :chuckle: a bunch of pictures of Mystery Ranch packs hauling meat and gear.
http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=245278 (http://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?t=245278)
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I see your location is Bozeman, your in the backpack capitol. In your town you have Stone Glacier and Mystery Ranch, check them out in person. Bet they might have some 2nds?
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Upland.... If you havent seen it already, theres a post in the classifieds by Romaknows with IMO an excellent deal on some quality gear. If you havent already check it might be worth checking out or sending a pm. Dunno how much gear you have already, but its look like a great " starter kit" at a very fair price. The packframe is also worth a look :tup:
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Silkonthewestside. You are wrong about the NICE frame. Not sure where you got ten pounds from but your way off. The frame itself weighs 4lbs 4oz. My Longbow bag weighs 2lbs 4oz (6lbs 8oz total) Also have you ever used a Mystery Ranch bag? Because the load lifters work great :tup: Now if your a taller guy then I could see where the lifters wouldn't work that great. But the new Metcalf has functional load lifters for all sizes and heights of men. As does the 6500 and the 7500. Just like the Kifaru. And yes the kifaru weighs less but it also costs alot more. :tup:
Is the Mystery Ranch packs the greatest end all be all packs? Absolutely not. But for the price range he listed and what he wants out of it (3-4 day bivy pack able to carry a load of meat and all his gear) you wilm be hard pressed.
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Silkonthewestside. You are wrong about the NICE frame. Not sure where you got ten pounds from but your way off. The frame itself weighs 4lbs 4oz. My Longbow bag weighs 2lbs 4oz (6lbs 8oz total) Also have you ever used a Mystery Ranch bag? Because the load lifters work great :tup: Now if your a taller guy then I could see where the lifters wouldn't work that great. But the new Metcalf has functional load lifters for all sizes and heights of men. As does the 6500 and the 7500. Just like the Kifaru. And yes the kifaru weighs less but it also costs alot more. :tup:
Is the Mystery Ranch packs the greatest end all be all packs? Absolutely not. But for the price range he listed and what he wants out of it (3-4 day bivy pack able to carry a load of meat and all his gear) you wilm be hard pressed.
I was looking at the total weight for the NICE 6500 which is comparable to the Duplex Frame or Bikini with a DT1.
The total weight is 9 Pounds, 8 Ounces.
The 7500 adds 3 ounces.
The 7500 with the frame is the exact same price +/- a few bucks of the Bikini with the DT1 which weighs in at 5 pounds 7 ounces. Which is FOUR pounds less, for the same price.
NOW. I will say, I have never had a MR on my back, and so I cannot speak to the load lifters, but during my research that has been a major complaint I've seen on multiple forums.
I do not know if it's been addressed.
But at the end of the day, I can't imagine spending the same amount on a pack that weighs nearly twice as much for the same functionality.
But to each there own! I refuse to participate in brand bashing as MR, for all I've heard makes very high quality products!
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Anyone here ever used an army rucksack for back packing hunts?
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This one looks pretty interesting. I don't have any experience with it personally but it is what Steve Rinella (MeatEater) uses on all of his shows.
http://shop.outdoorsmans.com/category.sc?categoryId=58 (http://shop.outdoorsmans.com/category.sc?categoryId=58)
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I bought a Deuter 75+10 last year and it is one of the lightest most comfortable packs I've owned. I think I got it for around $230 from backcountry.com. A friend of mine has a Gregory and he swears by it. One thing that I would do if I were you though is stick with something around 5000cc though.
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Pretty tough to beat a Kifaru Timberline for the sheer light weightness and load carrying capacity... Did I mention they are very comfortable and backed by a 100% warranty...
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Don't, I repeat, don't buy new. There are absolutely tons of great used packs on forums like huntwa, 24hrcampfire and rokslide. You can get a $500-600 pack for half if you start looking now. I would suggest Kuiu (the 2012 frame or newer), Kifaru, Mystery Ranch and all have great warranties so go out and abuse them. Tons of MR around they are heavy but seem to be bombproof as long as you aren't too tall the frame is a bit short which won't be an issue at all for you at 5'9". Some people have been hit and miss with Kuiu but the new packs are a great improvement on the design. Kifaru is a more minimalistic style but well built so well that they are hard to come by in your price range. The only commercial pack I would consider for heavy use is the Tenzing line. The others Eberle, Badlands, etc have a lot of bells and whistles but also low comfortable hauling capacities and reliability issues.
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My :twocents:
It comes down to what your needs are now, and how likely they are to change in the future. That would be my first step in choosing a pack. Identify what you absolutley need. IMO the perfect pack doesnt exist, all have weaknesses. Even the mighty Kifaru, whos biggest weakness is the fact that I can go on an out of state elk hunt for the price of the pack. So although I would love to have one, my personal budget constraints say buy tags for experiences, and make do with my "junker" pack. For many that is not an issue, and I understand why Kifaru is the "perfect" pack.
If money were no object, purchasing the pack that most apropriatley fit your specifications from the "big 3" would make the most sense. Use and abuse them and choose the one that you like the best. Similar to optics reviews of Zeiss, Swaro, And Leica. At the top of the heap its all personal opinion, none are really "better" than others. Just better for you :tup:
If thats out of the cards, I agree with lghtnquick shop for used, quality packs. Although personnally I wouldnt turn away from eberle or badlands. I have used and own both and they functioned fine. Again they are not perfect, but purchased on ebay for a fraction of the cost of new, and even smaller fractions of the other pack companies, they have been well worth the money.
One other thing look hard at the cabelas Alaskan 2. Its a tuff bombproof pack that will effectivley haul more than you want to carry. Being an external frame it is easy to expand as your tent, sleeping bag, pad etc... can be lashed to the frame. Giving you plenty of space in the bag for extended stays if needed. I know many hardcore guys swear by them. I have one myself purchased many years ago, and it still sees a TON of use after all these years. Although its not my main go to bag anymore, its still gets passed along to friends, and used all the time for meat hauling, etc... for the money its a great addition to your pack arsenal.
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from what ive read this is all great info, i have two huge projects due this week that if i dont get turned in i dont graduate so im working through all this slowly ie not going to be on a lot for the next couple of days haha
come the weekend ill be able to go through all this at greater depth.
thanks for all the pointers and leads on classified ads
uplander
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I bought a Deuter 75+10 last year and it is one of the lightest most comfortable packs I've owned. I think I got it for around $230 from backcountry.com. A friend of mine has a Gregory and he swears by it. One thing that I would do if I were you though is stick with something around 5000cc though.
:tup: I bought the Deuter ACT lite 65+10 last year and it is by far the most comfortable pack I have ever owned.
The best thing you could do is find a shop near you that has a ton of packs to try. REI is great for that. Put weight in them and walk around the store. Packs are personal so one pack might be great for one person but suck for another person. Don't get caught up on price and camo. Those features should come second. :twocents:
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Silkonthewestside I see what you were comparing them to now and where you got 10lbs from.
I guess like you said different strokes for different folks. All my research and trying on different packs led me to the NICE frame. The selling point was Tue ability to have one frame but be able to put different bags on for different hunts. Also the ability to haul meat and all my gear in one trip. Only Mystery Ranch offered this. It also didn't help I'm not a tall guy so the liftets on the NICE frame work.
You made some good points which I agree with. :brew:
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Silkonthewestside I see what you were comparing them to now and where you got 10lbs from.
I guess like you said different strokes for different folks. All my research and trying on different packs led me to the NICE frame. The selling point was Tue ability to have one frame but be able to put different bags on for different hunts. Also the ability to haul meat and all my gear in one trip. Only Mystery Ranch offered this. It also didn't help I'm not a tall guy so the liftets on the NICE frame work.
You made some good points which I agree with. :brew:
Not that I'm pimping any brand, but the Kifaru's and Stone Glaciers will also allow you the versatility to put any bag you want on the frame. I know of some guys who have other bags on the duplex frames, and plan on transferring them to the bikini. Also, both of those frames will handle more weight then you can put on them. As will the KUIU from what I understand. Again, not saying you made the wrong choice with your pack, I'm glad you found one you really like, and keep slaying them critters!
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Also the ability to haul meat and all my gear in one trip. Only Mystery Ranch offered this.
Bad news, MR isn't the only ones that offer this feature, see information below.
Here's a link to a picture of the Kifaru Highcamp bag and Bikini frame with a simulated load of meat (in the green bag) in between the bag and frame, with all that excess webbing, you could really bump that bag out if you needed to.
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/AronSnyder/DSC03889_zps067e847d.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/AronSnyder/DSC03889_zps067e847d.jpg)
Stone Glacier also offer this feature, just go to their site, click on either the Terminus or Solo bags, and then click on the tab that says "load shelf". http://stoneglacier.com/products.html (http://stoneglacier.com/products.html)
Probably still time to change your mind. :dunno:
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I will probably get one of these for my next pack should be in your price range
http://www.wildernesspacks.com/big-horn-combo (http://www.wildernesspacks.com/big-horn-combo)
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Also the ability to haul meat and all my gear in one trip. Only Mystery Ranch offered this.
Bad news, MR isn't the only ones that offer this feature, see information below.
Here's a link to a picture of the Kifaru Highcamp bag and Bikini frame with a simulated load of meat (in the green bag) in between the bag and frame, with all that excess webbing, you could really bump that bag out if you needed to.
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/AronSnyder/DSC03889_zps067e847d.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/AronSnyder/DSC03889_zps067e847d.jpg)
Stone Glacier also offer this feature, just go to their site, click on either the Terminus or Solo bags, and then click on the tab that says "load shelf". http://stoneglacier.com/products.html (http://stoneglacier.com/products.html)
Probably still time to change your mind. :dunno:
Nope I packed 5 elk with it this year. Had a half an elk twice on my back. The Longbow exceeded all my expectations. Can't imagine a pack being more comfortable or handling the weight any better. Also did some evasion training with it for a few days in Vermont in February and it worked great. It also is the perfect size for a "go" bag in the event I am shot down.
Yes bot the Stone and Kifarus are good packs.
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Buy a good quality used pack some if the best advice on here no doubt
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Here is a decent looking one on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ILBE-Pack-Gen-2-Complete-w-Lid-Waist-Belt-US-Military-Prepper-Backpack/160981062578?_trksid=p2045573.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D14622%26meid%3D6873468467333218209%26pid%3D100034%26prg%3D7118%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D281081759711%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ILBE-Pack-Gen-2-Complete-w-Lid-Waist-Belt-US-Military-Prepper-Backpack/160981062578?_trksid=p2045573.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D14622%26meid%3D6873468467333218209%26pid%3D100034%26prg%3D7118%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D281081759711%26)
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Mystery ranch I have 4 of them nothing even compares!!!
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Called Kifaru yesterday, and my pack should ship no later than Friday.
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Mystery ranch I have 4 of them nothing even compares!!!
Do you wear all four at the same time? So you can pack out four deer?
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Mystery ranch I have 4 of them nothing even compares!!!
Do you wear all four at the same time? So you can pack out four deer?
:chuckle:
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Called Kifaru yesterday, and my pack should ship no later than Friday.
When was your ship date? I'm waiting on an email back from Heath...not because I'm impatient, but because I'll be traveling for two weeks for work and might have them ship the pack to my hotel.
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Original ship date was 4/8, but when I didn't receive an email, I called them to enquire, and they said that they were waiting on my waist belt.
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Would also suggest a Kifaru.. Best pack I have had. Very close to puling the trigger on that new bikini frame.
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Just spoke to Aron Snyder from Kifaru/Rokslide, and he said my pack will ship on Monday. YAAAAAY! Can't wait for it to get here.
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
If your sleep system consists of moss and pine boughs.
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
Back-country Is person specific. Not the BACKPACK itself. Some people can go out with virtually nothing and be successful.
Some people need every accommodation known to man. :dunno: was Just shooting out a deal. Jeesh
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And to get an animal out?
BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
If your sleep system consists of moss and pine boughs.
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
If your sleep system consists of moss and pine boughs.
lol i was just saying it can be done,just gota spend more time tweaking your gear :tup:
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Its cool Ill just start keeping stuff to myself.
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
If your sleep system consists of moss and pine boughs.
lol i was just saying it can be done,just gota spend more time tweaking your gear :tup:
And not bringing food.
I'm just joking. I know some people can do it. I just don't feel like I could fit my food for a weekend into a 2200" pack.
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Its cool Ill just start keeping stuff to myself.
Wasn't trying to be a downer, just thinking that might deserve it's own thread and pointing out this thread was tailored towards backpack hunting.
Post away smossy.
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Its cool Ill just start keeping stuff to myself.
Wasn't trying to be a downer, just thinking that might deserve it's own thread and pointing out this thread was tailored towards backpack hunting.
Post away smossy.
If you want to be like that, then the ship dates and all the other Kifaru talk you guys have been having deserves it's own thread as well. This OP asked about a $400 pack recommendation. Not a $700 pack, or the ship dates of your Kifaru packs, etc. Just sayin...
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BADLANDS 2200 HUNTING BACKPACK On sale for $169.99 marked down from $269.99 Right now on camofire.com for the next 5 minutes. Get it while its hott!
That's a fine day pack but this thread is about backcountry backpacks...
2200 inches is more than enough for a weekend in the backcountry..
If your sleep system consists of moss and pine boughs.
lol i was just saying it can be done,just gota spend more time tweaking your gear :tup:
And not bringing food.
I'm just joking. I know some people can do it. I just don't feel like I could fit my food for a weekend into a 2200" pack.
just keep working at it :tup:
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Not trying to cause any problems...
Its cool Ill just start keeping stuff to myself.
Wasn't trying to be a downer, just thinking that might deserve it's own thread and pointing out this thread was tailored towards backpack hunting.
Post away smossy.
If you want to be like that, then the ship dates and all the other Kifaru talk you guys have been having deserves it's own thread as well. This OP asked about a $400 pack recommendation. Not a $700 pack, or the ship dates of your Kifaru packs, etc. Just sayin...
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One way to stay within your budget and to buy a kifaru is to buy the duplexframeand cargo panel in foliage or any other on camo of choice. Then next year you can add a bag of your choice. You can slide any bag you want inside of a duplex frame and cargo panel.
If mystery ranch had made the metcalf earlier than I might have gone that route. Functional load lifters are key IMO.
I have also used a blacks creek Canadian, a eberlestock x2, a Gregory Whitney, and a cabelas Alaskan external. They all worked but the kifaru experience puts all of those to shame at crunch time when you have100 lbs of meat to pack.
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Again thanks for all the tips and pointers.
over the weekend i ended up getting a Mystery Ranch Nice frame and Crew cab pack. i sort of lucked out on this deal, got talking to one of the guys at the trap club i shoot at here that does a lot of over night elk hunts had a crew cab bag that he used once before upgrading to the new metcalf and said hed sell me it for $100, so i jumped on that deal and went an picked up a nice frame from the factory here in town.
told a sales rep in the shop what went down, and he was more than willing to show me how to set it all up and even fitted it to me. we threw 60lbs in it, walked around and climbed some stairs certainly did not feel like 60lbs. I think its a pretty awesome pack and a load rides well in it for me. personally i think itll be the last pack i ever need to buy, we'll see later this summer as i have a 30 mile trek from rainy pass to stehekin planned and have a few tenative 3 day hunts planned for bear and archery deer, cant wait to get out and put it through its paces
thanks again everyone, HW never fails with the vast wealth of info and helpful demeanor of our members
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Congrats on the pack! Sounds like a great on A nice pack. :tup:
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I have a Mystery Ranch and it is bomb proof. It carries weight very well.
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Here are a few more recommendations. I currently have an Eberlestock pack and I am looking at upgrading to the J34 or dragonfly.
http://eberlestock.com/J34%20Just%20One.htm (http://eberlestock.com/J34%20Just%20One.htm)
But I have also been looking at Nimrod packs especially the wilderness pack system or the apex pack system. However, nimrod packs can get costly with the accessories but is a very versatile pack.
http://www.nimrodpacks.com/n325.html (http://www.nimrodpacks.com/n325.html)
These packs are good investments.