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Title: 80 lb bow
Post by: huntindoc on April 10, 2013, 09:20:46 AM: Looking around for an 80 lb bow. I know, lots of reasons to stick with 70 lbs... Anyway- anybody know who is making heavier bows? And where can I shoot them? I would love a bow that I can change the limbs out for more typical poundage later if I need. I've been looking around, and it's tough to find! Any advice would be helpful. Thanks
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: Broken Arrow on April 10, 2013, 09:30:32 AM: here are some manufactures

http://www.huntersfriend.com/2007-Bow-Reviews/compound-bows-heavy-draw-only.htm (http://www.huntersfriend.com/2007-Bow-Reviews/compound-bows-heavy-draw-only.htm)
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: colockumelk on April 10, 2013, 09:50:07 AM: Holy smokes you are strong. 80lbs is alot for a bow to weigh. They make way lighter bows. You might want to look around. Mine only weighs 3.9lbs. :chuckle:
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Post by: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 09:58:56 AM: any specific brand u looking for ive got 2 hoyts one is a turbo tech set at about 103lbs and the other is a super tech set at 86-88lbs.. let me know if interested!!!!!
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 10, 2013, 10:12:57 AM: 80lbs :bash:. Hoyt makes 80 pounders.
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Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 10, 2013, 10:16:56 AM: I wouldent mind an 80 next time around. Seems you could use the 5 pinner as a 30 50 70 90 and 110.
Really though. One pin to 60 would be better. Lol
Wonder if you could skip ahead to 20 yard increments?
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: bear hunter on April 10, 2013, 10:22:49 AM: I had my limbs replaced after they broke. Bill put some used furry limbs on. I gained 5 pounds. Now it is 75 pounds now. Can't you buy heaver limbs?
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 10, 2013, 10:38:14 AM: You would not skip ahead to 20yd gaps
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Post by: snowpack on April 10, 2013, 11:02:29 AM: I think one of the challenges for 80 and above with wheel bows is finding proper arrows. I looked around for a heavy draw compound and arrows, and the arrows were basically taking a small diameter and inserting it into a large diameter shaft just so you could get the right spine.
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Post by: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:09:27 AM: i shoot both my 2 heavy poundage bows with 2314 aluminum arrow shafts and they spline just fine have no problem grouping out to 80+ yards
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: huntindoc on April 10, 2013, 11:36:01 AM: I'm shooting Alaska Bowhunting safari stix with 315 gr broad head for cape buffs next summer. The experts said I did not need more lbs and I was not going to replace but then my current bow broke (again...) so good reason to replace! Where can I go to shoot these bows? Any shops around that have a bunch of models? I'm not opposed to used, will be in touch elkaholic1
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 11:42:57 AM: Quote from: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
i shoot both my 2 heavy poundage bows with 2314 aluminum arrow shafts and they spline just fine have no problem grouping out to 80+ yards

2314's out of 103# Hoyt TurboTec/Spiral Cam :yike: That's down right scary! I guess they do spine out at a 20" length ;)
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:43:46 AM: :tup:
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:44:23 AM: Quote from: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
i shoot both my 2 heavy poundage bows with 2314 aluminum arrow shafts and they spline just fine have no problem grouping out to 80+ yards

2314's out of 103# Hoyt TurboTec/Spiral Cam :yike: That's down right scary! I guess they do spine out at a 20" length ;)

28" :tup:
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 11:46:20 AM: huntindoc - Hoyt, PSE, Mathews and Bowtech will all get you 80# limbs if you order them. If you have a standard compression limb bow Barnsdale will make them for you as well.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 11:51:31 AM: Quote from: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: elkoholic1 on April 10, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
i shoot both my 2 heavy poundage bows with 2314 aluminum arrow shafts and they spline just fine have no problem grouping out to 80+ yards

2314's out of 103# Hoyt TurboTec/Spiral Cam :yike: That's down right scary! I guess they do spine out at a 20" length ;)

28" :tup:

You are a far more brave individual than myself!

I shoot 27.5" arrows and I won't shoot them above 70# out of a spiral cam bow. And they spine match at 58# with proper FOC. I do very much like the 2314 shaft though. It is very versatile, but that's pushing it way to far for my comfort. My hand hurts just thinking about it ;)
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Post by: skinzner on April 10, 2013, 11:57:08 AM: I used to have an 80# bowtech liberty i think it was a 2005. The liberty drew back way easier than my pse xforce and bowtech 101st and both of those were 70 pound but were both 350 fps ibo. I dont think i would want any part of pulling one of these new speed bows at 80#. That liberty pulled back so smooth, it was really nice to shoot.
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Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 12:06:04 PM: huntindoc - Are you headed to Africa or Australia? That would be cool!
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Post by: coachcw on April 10, 2013, 12:39:05 PM: I've seen ekloholic s heavys and they run without fault ussing 100 grain points . I've had furys at 100lbs and protechs at 80+ pushing 2419xs75 eastons with hell fire 150's with zero problems in a 30 inch draw . id think fmj's would also be a good choice .
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: huntindoc on April 10, 2013, 02:26:04 PM: Tanzania. Wasn't going to use bow, but I've hunted with the guide before for mulies in Alberta. He recommended we go for it so will give it a try. After looking over those ashby broad heads, I'm feeling a little better. Amazing info and momentum data. Shall see. Gotta find the bow first.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 02:44:07 PM: Quote from: huntindoc on April 10, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
After looking over those ashby broad heads, I'm feeling a little better. Amazing info and momentum data.

The dentist does put on a good show. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: sakoshooter on April 10, 2013, 09:20:50 PM: Quote from: colockumelk on April 10, 2013, 09:50:07 AM
Holy smokes you are strong. 80lbs is alot for a bow to weigh. They make way lighter bows. You might want to look around. Mine only weighs 3.9lbs. :chuckle:

I was thinking the same thing. Glad I don't have to pack his bow around.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: kentrek on April 10, 2013, 09:23:41 PM: Quote from: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
Quote from: huntindoc on April 10, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
After looking over those ashby broad heads, I'm feeling a little better. Amazing info and momentum data.

The dentist does put on a good show. :rolleyes:

is it just a show ??
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: Fullabull on April 11, 2013, 02:57:54 PM: Last time I was out at the Nock point out in North Seattle, they had a 80# PSE either OMEN or EVO that someone ordered but didn't want when it came in. They were willing to give a good deal on it. Not sure if it is still there but you could call them. I have a 70# EVO and love it!!!
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Post by: dreamingbig on April 11, 2013, 06:29:54 PM: I replaced the limbs on my hoytmaxxis with80 lb limbs. It is a solid shooting bow! If I were to buy a new hoytspyder I would probably get 70 lb limbs. Both are plenty fast.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: throttlejocky20 on April 13, 2013, 09:02:18 AM: I really dont see the need. If you plan to hunt buffalo or big game in africa then it makes a little more sense. Here in Wa your arrow would need to to be almost 500 grains. I agree you will gain some KE but the question to ask, is it needed. Shot placement kills not bow all pumped up :twocents:
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: dreamingbig on April 13, 2013, 09:31:17 AM: For me, I was already shooting a 500 grn arrow at 70 lbs so I wanted to see how it would do at 80. The results are awesome. However I would still buy a new bow with 70lb limbs if I was in the market.

Agree, not needed but I had other options. My back up bow has 70 lb limbs and this was a 3 yr old bow anyway.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: small Dog on April 14, 2013, 09:36:22 PM: Everybody I know who shot those kinds of heavy bows by time they are 65 or older they have really bad shoulder problems. There are a couple that has lucked out and still shoot those kind of pounds all the way to there 80s.
I use to shoot all over the country years ago, but have really bad shoulders now. Mine was caused by the type of work that I did. I shoot 60Lbs when I used to shoot ternaments. I also used the same weight when shooting 3Ds and hunting. The bows they make today at 60Lbs in a combound is more bow than that 80Lb recurve. Archery is suppose to be fun and therapudic. When I was younger I would come home from work and shoot the courses at Skoocum almost everyday if possible. It was so much fun,now I use a drawlock on my bow. My bow is a Mathews Drenalin, and still use 60LBs. When I was younger I use to shoot a bear takedown and a Martin takedown recurve, and all my bows were around 60Lbs. I started hunting with a bow when I was a teenager and now I am 64. Archery sure has changed over the years. What ever the poundage is you should be able to hold the bow up like you are ready to draw and be able to draw very slow and smooth to your ancher. If you can't draw that way then the bow is to heavy. Control and form and the reast will fall into place.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: sakoshooter on April 14, 2013, 09:56:29 PM: Quote from: small Dog on April 14, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What ever the poundage is you should be able to hold the bow up like you are ready to draw and be able to draw very slow and smooth to your ancher. If you can't draw that way then the bow is to heavy. Control and form and the reast will fall into place.

Perfectly stated Small Dog. I see way too many folks that perform some form of yoga or whatever just to pull their bow back or skying it badly so they can kill someone in the next neighborhood if it was to fire for some unknown reason.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: deerslyr on April 14, 2013, 10:21:42 PM: I think my next bow will be an 80 lb elite answer. For the same reason people shoot 70lbs vs 60lbs. Theres literally "no need" to shoot any of the modern bows over 60 lbs. They all have enough killing power. But having that extra little bit is always nice to have give you a slight edge. As hunters were always looking for an edge. I would start out shooting it with the limbs back off a ways towards 73 or 74 pounds and work your way up. Just like working out. I started out with a 50 lb alpine micro and worked my way up to 70 lbs where im comfortably at now.
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Post by: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2013, 05:32:20 AM: I really think its pointless to shoot 80#. Look at uncle ted always shooting a 50# bow and that guy has killed more stuff than all of us combined on this thread.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: deerslyr on April 15, 2013, 06:27:34 AM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2013, 05:32:20 AM
I really think its pointless to shoot 80#. Look at uncle ted always shooting a 50# bow and that guy has killed more stuff than all of us combined on this thread.

Same could be said for shooting 60 and 70 pound bows then right since uncle ted can kill stuff with a 50 :dunno: Its all about gaining a slight edge, for the same reason you shoot a 70 over a 60 and buy a new bow every couple of years when your old one killed just fine. Different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2013, 06:50:45 AM: Yeah I guess but I don't think you're gaining an edge. I bet everyone of us could shoot better at 60# than 80#. There's good reasons target shooters don't shoot more than 60#.
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Post by: throttlejocky20 on April 15, 2013, 05:45:19 PM: :yeah:
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Post by: deerslyr on April 15, 2013, 06:08:36 PM: Its just like working out, you work your way up to it. I know I for one didnt start out of the gate shooting a 70lb draw weight and most people I know didnt either. They started out with the limbs backed all the way down to 60 and worked there way up until they could accurately shoot at 70 pounds with a form consistent every shot.
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Post by: romaknows on April 15, 2013, 08:46:23 PM: I know of a guy who hunts with a 130 lb compound.......why? because he can I guess. :tup:
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Post by: bobcat on April 15, 2013, 08:52:45 PM: Quote from: romaknows on April 15, 2013, 08:46:23 PM
I know of a guy who hunts with a 130 lb compound
:yike:
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on April 15, 2013, 09:01:23 PM: :yeah: :yike: Thats flat impressive. Who built it? Gotta be tough to find arrows :dunno:
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Post by: romaknows on April 15, 2013, 09:07:35 PM: Quote from: blackveltbowhunter on April 15, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
:yeah: :yike: Thats flat impressive. Who built it? Gotta be tough to find arrows :dunno:

He built it........thats what he does for a living.

He also holds some kind of record for th most poundage pulled, and the fastest arrow at over 600 fps (with a super light and dangerous arrow).
Title: Re: 80 lb bow
Post by: coachcw on April 15, 2013, 09:22:14 PM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on April 15, 2013, 06:50:45 AM
Yeah I guess but I don't think you're gaining an edge. I bet everyone of us could shoot better at 60# than 80#. There's good reasons target shooters don't shoot more than 60#.
Actually I shoot beter at 80lbs but cant shoot there all day , I feel beter holding a lil more poundage at full draw . no doubt there's and advantage to speed tighter pin gaps but your equipment dosn't hold up as long all give and takes i guess . If you want a care free bow then a 60lb set up is for you.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 15, 2013, 09:39:45 PM: Agreed it comes down to the shooter not the poundage of the bow. When I am in bow shape and shooting my 80+ bow I can shoot all day and have no worries. I also shoot my 83lb bow better then I shot my 73lb bow. It fits me perfect and I shoot it very well. I shoot bows from 45-80+ all year long. My higher draw weight bows I often shoot better :twocents:
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Post by: huntindoc on April 16, 2013, 12:35:02 AM: Love the opinions and discussion. Anyone dogmatic? I figured after the old bow broke again (now fixed), it was a good time to get a new one. Since I'll be shooting 950 grain arrows and can pull 80+, why not? I am not going to be resenting the few extra pounds of KE once there is a cape on the other end of the arrow.

I was really pleased when my first two shots at 50 and then at 60 drilled the 8 ring. Weird shooting those heavy arrows, but really pretty cool. This Martin Bengal is an impressive machine. Draws at 84.5 lbs. Way smoother than my 8 yr old bow pulled at 70. Different feel, but I have no doubt it will get the job done. I'll be deer and elk hunting this fall with my cape buffalo broadheads and arrows....Should be interesting. I suspect should be effective and all practice is good. Hope to have several thousand shots done over the next year.

BTW, Martin treated me really well. They built the bow, let me pick it up and take it to an archery shop and try it before I bought it. Great service and a great product.

Also, recommendations on good field point targets? All my other targets have been shot to bits. I'm now shooting my sons 3-D bear but it is a challenge to pull the arrows out, and I've got one small chunk off my last 3-d Buck. Shot that one in half, then shot the halves apart as well. Usually practice all year with broadheads.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 16, 2013, 01:30:32 AM: Only one really good target out there Rinehart all the way. 18-1 has a 1 year guarantee shoot it out in a year and they will give you a new one. Great for field points and broadheads. About 120.00 but money well spent and will last a long time.
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Post by: throttlejocky20 on April 17, 2013, 12:58:57 PM: Had a buddy get a free 18-1! Took shooting broadheads at it all year but they stood behind their statement.