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Title: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 05, 2008, 09:00:54 AM: Just shot my Washington Moose yesterday :IBCOOL: But!!!!! I took a neck shot at 37 yds. He was facing away, I leveled the cross hairs on the center of his neck and touched it off. Didn't even buck, just ran, I pumped two more in him, and put him down. I thought I missed the neck shot?????? But, when I boned out his neck, I found a hole, stuck my finger in it and found the bullet in the neck bone. Perfect mushroom, but just a hole in the bone????? Was this a bad round?? 175 gr. 7MM-REM. MAG. At 37 yds it should have droped him. :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 05, 2008, 09:03:57 AM: I assume you noticed how thick the neck hide is on the bull specifically down the back of it. Then the neck muscle of a rutting bull on top of that is like Rock. Then the fact their vertabrae is immense. Probably not a bad round, but not really a good shot choice.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 05, 2008, 09:17:25 AM: I agree with you both. The larger the animal, the broader the shock cone of the expanding bullet - a bunch of energy expended before the bullet or shock gets to the spinal cord. That said, I'd have expected the shot to drop him.

I finished off my moose with a .30/06 round (don't recall what ammo, it was in 2000) point blank to the back of the neck below the skull. I didn't look for the bullet, but it didn't exit.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 05, 2008, 09:21:09 AM: This is a good example of why KE is king. heavy bullets going fast kill better than lighter ones going slow. 300 mag 180 grain breaks his neck IMO.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 05, 2008, 09:38:47 AM: I know nothing of 7mm, the rifle boys will have to sort that out for me. I honestly think a 180 Hornady in an 06, and or 300, would have done the job, but the energy expanded to go through that hide is immense at that particular spot on a bull. Their neck hide is probably one of the toughest of any game animal ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY right down the backbone. Its a good inch thick or more. You made the shot and it served its purpose and you got your bull. Thats what counts. I wouldn't blame Remmington though.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Wea300mag on October 05, 2008, 09:48:31 AM: I have to admit I would have thought the 175gr 7mm would have done the job too, especially at 37 yards. :yike:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 05, 2008, 10:26:15 AM: The hide was 1/4" thick maybe 3/8's at the most, about 9" of meat, the bullet held together good and a perfact mushroom and was about 1" into the bone. Didn't even crack the bone. What impressed me the most, was how he took the shot. One tough animal.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 05, 2008, 10:30:48 AM: hmmmm...... They are tough animals!
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: mossback91 on October 05, 2008, 10:32:40 AM: I just think that moose was a *censored*
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: fremont on October 05, 2008, 01:18:47 PM: Quote from: Wea300mag on October 05, 2008, 09:48:31 AM
I have to admit I would have thought the 175gr 7mm would have done the job too, especially at 37 yards.

Good info on the hide. That said, I too would have probably made the same mistake. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 05, 2008, 02:02:45 PM: I would have though it would have put it down :yike:. I dont think that I would have went out with a 7mm but thats just me, and I have a 338win for the big stuff.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Red Dawg on October 05, 2008, 06:21:12 PM: I would not worry about it. Like everyone has said you are shooting one bad ass animal. With that being sais where are the pics. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: catwithboost on October 05, 2008, 06:32:08 PM: To make you feel better I shot a spike deer last year in the neck and found it in the neck bone. It went about 40yrds before it dropped and was still alive. With 7mm mag and 154gr bullet.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 05, 2008, 06:43:27 PM: I've shot deer in the neck with 243's, 30-30's, 308's and 7mm-08's. They all have dropped in there tracks. :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: wastickslinger on October 05, 2008, 06:50:03 PM: How long you gonna make everyone wait for pictures for crying out loud. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: jackelope on October 05, 2008, 08:17:17 PM: i found a bullet in the neck meat of a whitey i killed 2 or 3 years ago. it did not pass through,, and it was nothing but meat and hide/hair...no bone got in the way. not sure what it was caliber wise, but it was about a 30 caliber bullet.
no neck shots for me ever either....

now about those pics...
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Ridgeratt on October 06, 2008, 11:53:04 AM: Being a fan of the "Elmer Keith" Rule of thumb.

Big Bullets and Big guns for BIG GAME !!
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 06, 2008, 07:37:30 PM: Quote from: wastickslinger on October 05, 2008, 06:50:03 PM
How long you gonna make everyone wait for pictures for crying out loud. :chuckle:
I'm not at home, I'm on my mom's computer. I'm still trying to post Pict.s :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: high country on October 07, 2008, 06:31:55 PM: there is no shortage of KE, or SD on the bullet you mentioned. I suspect the bullet hit the bone opposite the spinus process, or the tip of the spinus process......just my guess. I have seen many animals fall to neck shots, typically theshock just flattens them on the spot. I personally like to shoot for necks on still critters and like to line my vert cross hair on the spine so my elevation variable can work for me.

do I think you had a bad bullet, no. would I take a shot like that, yes. understand that "high percentage" shots are just that, not magic. I have never seen a critter even stand for a fraction of a second after the neck shots I have seen. any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Bscman on October 07, 2008, 10:00:33 PM: Quote from: high country on October 07, 2008, 06:31:55 PM
any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.

Guess in this case he had a battery backup... :chuckle:

(Couldn't resist...)
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: addicted on October 08, 2008, 07:26:08 AM: Quote from: Bscman on October 07, 2008, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: high country on October 07, 2008, 06:31:55 PM
any real damage to the cord unplugs the computer.

Guess in this case he had a battery backup... :chuckle:

(Couldn't resist...)

an UPS lol. lets see who knows that one lol.

I would think that would be a kill shot but i'm certain i havent the confidence to take it.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: DeKuma on October 08, 2008, 08:01:41 AM: If there was a power outage, the UPS would start beeping as a warning, so it must have not been enough to "unplug" his computer. (yes, I know what it is. Using it as a foot stool under my desk right now. :chuckle: )
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: addicted on October 08, 2008, 08:06:24 AM: lol thats right they have those little ones.

i was running a generator last month and it shut down all the sudden and the buildings UPS didnt work. it was a very important building :rolleyes: with very important equipment :rolleyes: that runs on the very important electricity :rolleyes: that wasn't coming

needless to say they werent very happy that their very expensive room sized ups just crapped out. somehow it was our fault too lol
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Intruder on October 08, 2008, 08:16:52 AM: Quote from: boneaddict on October 05, 2008, 09:03:57 AM
I assume you noticed how thick the neck hide is on the bull specifically down the back of it. Then the neck muscle of a rutting bull on top of that is like Rock. Then the fact their vertabrae is immense. Probably not a bad round, but not really a good shot choice.

At 37 yards KE had nothing to do w/ it.... 7mag should be in the ballpark of 3200-3300 ft. lbs of energy at that range.

What bullet were you using? I'm guessing it wasn't a bonded, a solid or a partitioned bullet.

It really sounds like to me it was a penetration issue (different from KE). I'd be interested in knowing what the weight retention on the bullet was. If the bullet lost a significant amount of weight it's performance will be severely hammered. It can also deflect easier within the wound channel.

That same shot in the chest cavity would have likely put that boy down within 50 yards.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: addicted on October 08, 2008, 08:21:58 AM: is it possible it hit anything else along the way. or nicked the moose's ass or something along the way.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 08, 2008, 08:28:48 AM: Quote from: Intruder on October 08, 2008, 08:16:52 AM
Quote from: boneaddict on October 05, 2008, 09:03:57 AM
I assume you noticed how thick the neck hide is on the bull specifically down the back of it. Then the neck muscle of a rutting bull on top of that is like Rock. Then the fact their vertabrae is immense. Probably not a bad round, but not really a good shot choice.

At 37 yards KE had nothing to do w/ it.... 7mag should be in the ballpark of 3200-3300 ft. lbs of energy at that range.

What bullet were you using? I'm guessing it wasn't a bonded, a solid or a partitioned bullet.

It really sounds like to me it was a penetration issue (different from KE). I'd be interested in knowing what the weight retention on the bullet was. If the bullet lost a significant amount of weight it's performance will be severely hammered. It can also deflect easier within the wound channel.

That same shot in the chest cavity would have likely but that boy down within 50 yards.
175 gr. Rem. core lock. I had the bullet, but some how I have lost it :dunno: It was a perfact mushroom. It did hit just to the side of the top center of the spine, it was about an 1" in. As far as chest shot, I put two more in him, they hit about 5" apart 1/4'ing away shot, right up into the lungs. These two shots didn't rock him eather. He made it about 300 yds before going down. The 37 yd shot was clear. I used shooting sticks and was very steady. He was facing strait away, I centered the cross hairs on the center of the back of his neck and touched it off. I thought I missed :bash:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: addicted on October 08, 2008, 08:32:25 AM: Quote from: PA BEN on October 08, 2008, 08:28:48 AM

He made it about 300 yds before going down.

can't wait to get a tag for one of those.

any ETA on those pics yet?
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 08, 2008, 08:36:08 AM: Quote from: addicted on October 08, 2008, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: PA BEN on October 08, 2008, 08:28:48 AM

He made it about 300 yds before going down.

can't wait to get a tag for one of those.

any ETA on those pics yet?
Go to "Other Big Game", then 49 moose tag (PA BEN). I sent some cell phone shots to a member to post for me. ;)
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Intruder on October 08, 2008, 09:42:52 AM: That's just weird. Core-loks aren't the best bullet but they're certainly decent bullets. I can't fathom how, at that range, it wouldn't have completely polaxed that bugger. There had to be some kind of terminal failure of some sort. Maybe in combination w/ what Highcountry was mentioning. I'm still sticking w/ bullet performance as a key factor. I've seen a 160 grn Swift A-Frame fired from a 7 mag break the front shoulder of an elk and exit the other side at almost 400 yards. Something really wacky happened to cause a 175 grn bullet at 37 yards to only go 1" into that bone.

The fact the the bullet was "mushroomed" is what's got me perplexed. That indicates to me that the bullet didn't hit that bone going very fast or it would have broken apart and not mushroomed.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: randall167 on October 08, 2008, 06:51:22 PM: I got the youth moose tag in 01 and put a cow down with one shot to the chest with a 165 gr ballistic tip out of a 30-06. it fell like maybe 25 yards away. so the whole big game , big gun and big bullet doesn't mean anything to me. those 165's have taken 3 elk, a moose and a bear, so i don't think I'm changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 08, 2008, 08:12:13 PM: Bullet construction might have something to do with it :dunno:

I know the noslers I use are pretty tough and the expansion is great. I have recovered one and it traveled almost the length of a mule deer down its spine and it had enough power to break the rear hip in to a million pieces :bdid:, it was just under the hide when I found it.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 26, 2008, 07:35:21 AM: Just got home yesterday :o I did find the bullet and have the neck bone. When I boil it out and clean it up I'll post pictures of them both. I have to find some one with a scales to get the bullet wt.
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Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 26, 2008, 10:06:07 AM: Nice bull
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: shag on October 26, 2008, 01:52:56 PM: IMO neck shots are not a good shot to take. I've seen 4 and heard of dozens of hunters that nail a deer in the neck it drops in it's tracks. They start high fivin and walk up to the buck. Set their rifle down and wtf the deer jumps up and runs off. First time I saw it happen my pards buck jumped up about the time his knife came out to gut. The deer had a hole the size of a baseball in it's neck. is gun was unloaded at this point ad mine was against a tree 3-4 yrds away. Beleive it or not. That deer was never found.

If a neck shot is the only shot I have, I'll take it. Just my :twocents:

That is a great bull, congrats!!!!

What brand bullet were ya using. Couldn't of been a partition or a TSX.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 27, 2008, 08:06:52 AM: Rem. factory round. 175 gr. Core Lock, 7MM-REM. Mag. at 37 yds. I boiled out the neck bone and found that the bullet didn't make it to the bone. He was facing away, I centred on the back of his neck, the bullet just missed the Processes, (the ridge bones on the vertebra), and ended up in the tendion/sinew in between the vertebra. The hair, hide and 9 to 12" of soled neck meat, took the impact of the bullet. I do believe if it hit the Processes he would have droped. I'll post pict.s of the bullet later today.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 27, 2008, 09:16:30 AM: Here's the bullet.
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Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: bowsandhose on October 27, 2008, 09:19:00 AM: thats one tough animal
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Lowedog on October 27, 2008, 09:44:00 AM: I would say the bullet expanded on impact and spent most of it's energy through out that thick hide and muscle before reaching the spine. A bullet like the Barnes TSX would have probably penetrated through the spinal cord and even further causing more internal damage and shock.

-Lowedog
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Intruder on October 27, 2008, 10:58:44 AM: Bullet integrity doesn't look too good... hard to say but weight retention looks to be less than 50%.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 27, 2008, 11:01:00 AM: http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID12/10065.html

This is one of the reasons I shoot Barnes bullets :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Intruder on October 27, 2008, 02:39:49 PM: Quote from: Passion on October 27, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID12/10065.html

This is one of the reasons I shoot Barnes bullets :dunno:

me too
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Curly on October 27, 2008, 02:48:50 PM: Quote from: Intruder on October 27, 2008, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Passion on October 27, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID12/10065.html

This is one of the reasons I shoot Barnes bullets :dunno:

me too

me three :)

Quote from: Lowedog on October 27, 2008, 09:44:00 AM
I would say the bullet expanded on impact and spent most of it's energy through out that thick hide and muscle before reaching the spine. A bullet like the Barnes TSX would have probably penetrated through the spinal cord and even further causing more internal damage and shock.

-Lowedog

+1

Great pics and congrats on the bull. Good thing you connected with the next two shots.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 27, 2008, 05:29:29 PM: Looks like the bullet shead to much weight to get a clean kill. I will put a pic up of my accubound I recovered, it still has 70%+ of its weight left and is a nice mushroom.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: snipekillr on October 27, 2008, 05:32:05 PM: I like to put the bullet right in the front shoulder and into the heart thats my favorite. It will drop them in there tracks. ;)
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 27, 2008, 05:48:06 PM: We had a thread on here earlier asking if someone, who was going to hunt moose, had enough bullet. At the time, I stated that the bigger the better as there is thick hide, big bones, etc. that the bullet has to deal with. Yeah, if you hit it in the soft vitals then even a .243 can do the trick. But what happens when the angle is tough or you need to get a shot in on the neck. I'm an advocate for bigger is better if you can shoot it well. I used a 225 grain bullet and if I had to do it again, I might consider a 250 grain bullet for my .358. This doesn't happen if the bullet used is larger. It can't hurt...
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 27, 2008, 07:06:24 PM: Thanks for the good input ;) I think I'm going to start reloading my own. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 27, 2008, 07:10:17 PM: Here is a .338 200gr accubond (weight179gr) and a 200gr BT( weight:dunno:) both recovered from mule deer at about 160-200yd shots. The accubond broke the hip and traveled down the spine up to the shoulders then went into the vitals ending up stuck in a rib. The BT was a quartering away shot put right behind the shoulder and was under the skin 8" in front of the opposite shoulder in the neck. I think that bullet construction makes a world of difference. :twocents:

Accubond
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Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: Intruder on October 28, 2008, 09:58:17 AM: Quote from: popeshawnpaul on October 27, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
I'm an advocate for bigger is better if you can shoot it well. I used a 225 grain bullet and if I had to do it again, I might consider a 250 grain bullet for my .358. This doesn't happen if the bullet used is larger. It can't hurt...

Certainly nothing wrong with this philosophy if, as you said, you can shoot the big cals effectively. You're achieving equivalant or better weight retention and bullet penetration by using a monster slug. That being said, I would still argue that a 160 or 175 grain .284 cal bullet is more than adequate if it holds together. It's likely that the bullet he was using was just too thin jacketed to handle the impact at the velocity that it was traveling at, and as such it broke apart. A Core-Lok bullet is not really designed to handle impacts at muzzle velocities. A-Frames, Fail Safe, Bearclaws, TSX's would have all retained 85+ % and broken the bugger's neck.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 10:12:08 AM: Funny thing is you guys are talking muledeer versus moose. There is a BIG difference. :) and the words of intruder ring true "effectively" is very important when yeildig the big guns. ALOT cannot.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: WDFW-SUX on October 28, 2008, 10:16:54 AM: I agree. Shooting a big magnum is way different than shooting a deer rifle. The first time I shot my 375 Ulra mag I was like :stfu: :bdid:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 28, 2008, 10:23:41 AM: I was trying to show the difference of bullet design. I have not had a chance to shot anything bigger then a deer with my .338 yet.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 10:34:32 AM: Oh I know demon, I wasn't putting down your post. It was more broad spectrum. Sorry to come off that way.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 10:36:59 AM: To me a good neck shot is an instant no brainer for a deer, though I never use them. For a moose, I"D seriously think twice about EVER doing it.
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: demontang on October 28, 2008, 11:37:50 AM: Not a big deal I just want to make sure people know why I put those up.

I might shot one in the neck if its the only shot I had and was loaded up with a 300gr bullet :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on October 28, 2008, 07:30:12 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on October 28, 2008, 10:36:59 AM
To me a good neck shot is an instant no brainer for a deer, though I never use them. For a moose, I"D seriously think twice about EVER doing it.
I hear ya on the neck shot, if he was sideways to me, I wouldn't have taken the shot, big wide neck, might miss the bone. But, he was standing strait away from me at 37 yds, I centered on the neck bone and hoped to drop him right there. I didn't miss the bone, the bullet just didn't make it to it. :'(
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 29, 2008, 07:24:19 PM: Nobody is saying you have to go buy a big magnum. The .358 I used with 225 grain bullets doesn't kick as hard as my .243... It is a tad heavier than the .243 but the .243 uses lighter bullets... (A .358 is a .308 necked up and a .243 is a .308 necked down, at least that's what I recall...)
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: PA BEN on December 07, 2008, 06:00:16 PM: Not to bring back this Subject, but I was eating some tender loin from my moose and bit into brass and led. The two heavy quartering away shots went through the tender loin. The Rem. Core Lock came appart on impact??? :dunno: The wt buck I head shot with Core locks this year, too came apart also. I think the 7MM rem mag. is a fast hard hitting gun and needs a good bullet. :dunno:
Title: Re: Neck shot Bull Moose. Bad Round????
Post by: 270Shooter on December 07, 2008, 06:04:28 PM: Yep I would get a bullet that doesn't expand so fast. You the core locts for yotes 8). You should look into the Nosler Accubond or Partition or the Barnes X Bullets just to name a few :twocents: