Post by: Sagebrushwilly on April 14, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
almost 60 yrs, so I'm not a rookie.
Last fall something caught my eye in the deer forum. A member shot a deer with a
44 cal cap and ball revolver during the modern season. Even posted a picture. Now
most would think that the revolver meets the requirements because it has a 7 1/2 in barrel and is bigger than .240 cal. However, the regs state that the minimum projectile is .240 cal or larger center-fire cartridge. Therefore this weapon is illegal as a modern season weapon. They also do not meet the requirements for big game muzzle-loading season. They can only be used to hunt grouse and rabbits, per the regulations. They cannot be used to dispatch a wounded deer or elk either.
This person has stated that he was not going to repeat this action in the future.
So this is just a reminder if you saw his posting and were thinking about maybe
trying it this fall. Cap and ball revolvers are illegal for all big game.
Post by: Bigshooter on April 14, 2013, 10:32:34 PM
I don't post much because this is mainly a West side forum. I've hunted in WA for
almost 60 yrs, so I'm not a rookie.
Last fall something caught my eye in the deer forum. A member shot a deer with a
44 cal cap and ball revolver during the modern season. Even posted a picture. Now
most would think that the revolver meets the requirements because it has a 7 1/2 in barrel and is bigger than .240 cal. However, the regs state that the minimum projectile is .240 cal or larger center-fire cartridge. Therefore this weapon is illegal as a modern season weapon. They also do not meet the requirements for big game muzzle-loading season. They can only be used to hunt grouse and rabbits, per the regulations. They cannot be used to dispatch a wounded deer or elk either.
This person has stated that he was not going to repeat this action in the future.
So this is just a reminder if you saw his posting and were thinking about maybe
trying it this fall. Cap and ball revolvers are illegal for all big game.
Yeah right.
I do remember the story though.
Post by: EDT on April 14, 2013, 11:02:52 PM
Post by: snowpack on April 14, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 14, 2013, 11:08:36 PM
First time I've ever heard that term. And let's keep it that way! ;)
Post by: winshooter88 on April 15, 2013, 01:12:07 AM
Post by: stevemiller on April 15, 2013, 02:28:10 AM
I don't post much because this is mainly a West side forum. I've hunted in WA forUnless its 45 cal or bigger right?with the 7.5 long barrel :twocents:
almost 60 yrs, so I'm not a rookie.
Last fall something caught my eye in the deer forum. A member shot a deer with a
44 cal cap and ball revolver during the modern season. Even posted a picture. Now
most would think that the revolver meets the requirements because it has a 7 1/2 in barrel and is bigger than .240 cal. However, the regs state that the minimum projectile is .240 cal or larger center-fire cartridge. Therefore this weapon is illegal as a modern season weapon. They also do not meet the requirements for big game muzzle-loading season. They can only be used to hunt grouse and rabbits, per the regulations. They cannot be used to dispatch a wounded deer or elk either.
This person has stated that he was not going to repeat this action in the future.
So this is just a reminder if you saw his posting and were thinking about maybe
trying it this fall. Cap and ball revolvers are illegal for all big game.
Post by: crazysccrmd on May 02, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
e A muzzleloading handgun must have a single or double barrel of at least eight inches, must be rifled, and must be capable of being loaded with forty- five grains or more of black powder or black powder substitute per the manufacturer's recommendations.
f A muzzleloading handgun used for big game must be 45 caliber or larger
g A handgun designed to be used with black powder, including black powder percussion revolvers, can be used to hunt forest grouse, cottontail rabbits, and snowshoe hares
Unless the distinction is being made between "muzzleloading" and "cylinder loading" I don't see the problem. Depending on model, percussion revolvers have an 8"+ rifled barrel, can be loaded with 45gr or more black powder, and fire a .45cal projectile.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 02, 2013, 06:12:49 AM
I dont find this forum to be mainly a "west side forum" at all.
:yeah: :yeah: :bash:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 02, 2013, 06:13:51 AM
"Wolf siders" :chuckle:
First time I've ever heard that term. And let's keep it that way! ;)
That is worth a chuckle :chuckle:
Post by: crazysccrmd on May 08, 2013, 08:14:33 AM
Thank you for contacting the Department with your question regarding lawful hunting methods. In my experience most, if not all, black powder revolvers load from the cylinder and not the muzzle. A lawful muzzleloader is a firearm that is loaded from the muzzle and uses black powder. If your firearm meets this definition and all the restrictions set forth on page 76 of the 2013 Big Game Hunting pamphlet then it would be lawful to use. A handgun designed to be used with black powder, including black powder percussion revolvers, can be used to hunt forest grouse, cottontail rabbits, and snowshoe hares.
Received a reply from WDFW on this topic. Sagebrushwilly is correct, a cap and ball revolver is not legal for big game hunting.
Post by: MtnMuley on May 08, 2013, 08:28:57 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on May 08, 2013, 08:37:06 AM
Post by: oneshot12 on May 10, 2013, 04:47:33 AM