Post by: Curly on April 17, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
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Post by: Elkaholic daWg on April 17, 2013, 03:41:22 PM
Post by: jess on April 17, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Post by: Jingles on April 17, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 17, 2013, 04:03:14 PM
When asked for comment, Nelson had this to say:
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Ha ha!
Keep in mind that these are amendments being voted on. The original omnibus bill vote is scheduled for tomorrow.
http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/schumer-toomey-machin-falls/ (http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/schumer-toomey-machin-falls/)
Post by: Arnbo on April 17, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 17, 2013, 04:38:57 PM
Post by: buckfvr on April 17, 2013, 05:24:44 PM
Who SHOULD pay for it ????????
Post by: Greenhorn on April 17, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
Post by: actionshooter on April 17, 2013, 05:29:18 PM
Post by: csaaphill on April 17, 2013, 05:35:32 PM
if so hope the vote that crap out too!!!! :tup:
Post by: dontgetcrabs on April 17, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
It looks like 54 senators wanted to keep thier job and uphold the constitution.. And obama dont like not getting his way!
54 voted for it including some rinos. Fell short of the 60 needed.
Post by: jess on April 17, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
Post by: mulehunter on April 17, 2013, 08:52:05 PM
im glad the senate voted against it :IBCOOL:
:yeah: :tup:
Post by: Hi-Liter on April 17, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
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Post by: csaaphill on April 18, 2013, 12:29:19 AM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 06:13:54 AM
Post by: nocklehead on April 18, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
He said it was a shameful day in DC. I'm kind of thinking that democracy and freedom had a good day, for a change. Since he became the President, there haven't been a lot of those.
Democracy is mob rule, its 6 people deciding what 10 people have for dinner. democracy is destructive to everyone but the majority. Or as Ben Franklin put it, "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner."
This is a win for our CONSTITUTION, and our REPUBLIC!!!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 18, 2013, 10:47:56 AM
:yeah:He said it was a shameful day in DC. I'm kind of thinking that democracy and freedom had a good day, for a change. Since he became the President, there haven't been a lot of those.
Democracy is mob rule, its 6 people deciding what 10 people have for dinner. democracy is destructive to everyone but the majority. Or as Ben Franklin put it, "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner."
This is a win for our CONSTITUTION, and our REPUBLIC!!!
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
Majority of Americans say guns make homes safer.
A new Washington Post/ABC News poll finds that more Americans say a gun in the house makes it more safe rather than more dangerous -- a significant reversal of opinion in just the last 10 years:
Post by: nocklehead on April 18, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
This is another reason why we must never lose the internet security fight either. I would even back a constitutional amendment that protects the internet from ALL forms of censorship and perceived security.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 12:22:12 PM
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 12:44:26 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 12:49:46 PM
This is the poll he is talking about it was at closer to 90%.
I'd like to see the entire poll and where it was conducted; who was polled. ABC News is about as neutral as Fox. I don't believe nationwide, our entire population is anywhere near 90% in favor of any gun control.
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 12:50:59 PM
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone Apr. 11-14, 2013, among a random national sample of 1,003 adults, including landline and cell phone-only respondents. Interviews were conducted in English and Spanish The results from the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York. Produced for the Washington Post by Capital Insight.
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 12:57:17 PM
Sorry, I just don't buy it. I don't believe the entire country supported universal checks and the Senate voted it down.
Just so you know I appose more regulation.
I think it is all in how it is worded when asked, kind of like the guy on the pier asking people to vote against the second amendment.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 01:03:18 PM
Sorry, I just don't buy it. I don't believe the entire country supported universal checks and the Senate voted it down.
Just so you know I appose more regulation.
I think it is all in how it is worded when asked, kind of like the guy on the pier asking people to vote against the second amendment.
That's what I said originally.
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Sorry, I just don't buy it. I don't believe the entire country supported universal checks and the Senate voted it down.
Just so you know I appose more regulation.
I think it is all in how it is worded when asked, kind of like the guy on the pier asking people to vote against the second amendment.
That's what I said originally.
OK I believe you
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 18, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/would-background-requiring-support/2013/04/16/23b52c3e-a682-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_page.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/would-background-requiring-support/2013/04/16/23b52c3e-a682-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_page.html)
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone Apr. 11-14, 2013, among a random national sample of 1,003 adults, including landline and cell phone-only respondents. Interviews were conducted in English and Spanish The results from the full survey have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York. Produced for the Washington Post by Capital Insight.
You mean this Capital Insight?
http://www.netnewscheck.com/article/23604/washpo-launches-capital-insight-polling-service (http://www.netnewscheck.com/article/23604/washpo-launches-capital-insight-polling-service)
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WashPo Launches Capital Insight Polling Service
Washington Post Media today announced the launch of “Capital Insight,” an independent polling operation that will offer polling and research services to external clients.
The very same Washington Post known as the "Pravda on the Potomac?"
Also note the dateline of creation of this polling entity of January 13, 2013. Why, it's almost as if this independent polling operation was created, purpose-built, just for this legislative push. Hmmm, I would really like to see the money trail that lead to this decision.
Post by: snowpack on April 18, 2013, 02:28:11 PM
Post by: smdave on April 18, 2013, 02:32:42 PM
Biden is now saying that Obama plans to issue some gun related executive orders as early as this week.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/biden-gun-bill-defeat/2013/04/18/id/500224 (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/biden-gun-bill-defeat/2013/04/18/id/500224)
The White House later clarified to BuzzFeed that Biden was referring to executive orders that Obama had mentioned in January and not any new actions.
Post by: TheHunt on April 18, 2013, 02:37:43 PM
I had to rub it in....
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 18, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
I sent an email to our two senators for their support on killing any and all gun control measures.
I had to rub it in....
I did the same. :tup:
Post by: buckfvr on April 18, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
I sent an email to our two senators for their support on killing any and all gun control measures.
I had to rub it in....
I did the same. :tup:
Same here.... :tup:
Post by: Jingles on April 18, 2013, 03:08:18 PM
Post by: Wenatcheejay on April 18, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
It is disingenuous to pretend these bullies were ALWAYS only for expanded background checks. ALSO, they ignored and continue to ignore what people really want. What people want is criminals prosecuted and put in prison. We want gang members jailed, off the street. That Members of Congress want to blame guns and not the people committing crime is to freaking bad! They make me P'O'd!
NOTHING King Obama demands has anything to do with public safety. It is all about his desire for power and control.
Post by: brokenvet on April 18, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
Now guess who the people will vote for, yep democraps. Once the election dust settles, democraps will have control over the house and senate. Now the gov can pass all the legislation they want and push America further into socialism, chaos.
Post by: huntnphool on April 18, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
It is actually a brilliant plan. The gun ban legislation fails, he then blames the republicans for it, then comes 2014 senators election, this gun ban failure raises its ugly head, BOH blaming republicans.This is what I was getting at in the other thread with Mags.
Now guess who the people will vote for, yep democraps. Once the election dust settles, democraps will have control over the house and senate. Now the gov can pass all the legislation they want and push America further into socialism, chaos.
Post by: snowpack on April 18, 2013, 08:55:06 PM
Post by: Smithandsonstaxidermy on April 18, 2013, 09:50:34 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on April 19, 2013, 12:33:43 AM
I heard them earlier now blaming the NRA for making it too difficult to trace the explosives used in the bombings in boston. They say that the reason gunpowder doesn't have tracking taggants is because the NRA opposed it, therefore the NRA must be aiding terrorists. Basically they're working on the smear campaign as much as possible.
- Its the NRA's fault that I didn't make the A list baseball team
- Its the NRA's fault that my mother wasn't nice to me
- Its the NRA's fault that my favorite color is purple yet the sky is blue
- et cetera