Post by: alex77147 on April 20, 2013, 08:43:13 PM
Post by: Curly on April 20, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 20, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
Post by: alex77147 on April 20, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
Post by: Donaye37 on April 20, 2013, 10:37:59 PM
Post by: Kola16 on April 20, 2013, 10:42:39 PM
thanks guys, Curly why is it illegal to shoot them with an air rifle?I don't think anyone on here has a for sure answer for that. Only speculations.....
Post by: alex77147 on April 21, 2013, 11:46:57 AM
thanks guys, Curly why is it illegal to shoot them with an air rifle?I don't think anyone on here has a for sure answer for that. Only speculations.....
I thought as long as the area allows it you can? there are specific signs down lower river road that says shotguns and bows only and NO PELLET GUNS so thats obvious but idk if thats for hunting or target practice as well.
Post by: HighlandLofts on April 21, 2013, 07:34:34 PM
Post by: Curly on April 21, 2013, 08:47:40 PM
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11. Prohibited firearms/hunting methods
It is illegal to:
• Hunt game birds with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells.
• Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, except forest grouse.
• Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry. Bullfrogs may only be taken by angling, hand dip netting, gigging, and bow and arrow.
Many years ago I killed a limit of grouse with a slingshot. I didn't realize it wasn't a legal method until sometime later when I happened to read this section. Just trying to help keep you from making a similar mistake.
Post by: alex77147 on April 21, 2013, 09:37:24 PM
From page 76 of the 2012 Hunting regs, under "Prohibited Hunting Methods":Quote11. Prohibited firearms/hunting methods
It is illegal to:
• Hunt game birds with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells.
• Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, except forest grouse.
• Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry. Bullfrogs may only be taken by angling, hand dip netting, gigging, and bow and arrow.
Many years ago I killed a limit of grouse with a slingshot. I didn't realize it wasn't a legal method until sometime later when I happened to read this section. Just trying to help keep you from making a similar mistake.
Thanks for the help, I still dont understand why? Hunters do it worldwide so I don't understand why it would be illegal. If its because of lead then I can use an alloy pellet, if its because of power then I don't know what to say because my 32grain .22 pellet travels at about 950-1000fps which is about 60fpe and some subsonic cartridges for the .22lr are rated at 40fpe and you can use that but not a 60fpe air rifle :o?
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 21, 2013, 09:45:59 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 22, 2013, 07:22:37 AM
From page 76 of the 2012 Hunting regs, under "Prohibited Hunting Methods":Quote11. Prohibited firearms/hunting methods
It is illegal to:
• Hunt game birds with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells.
• Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, except forest grouse.
• Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry. Bullfrogs may only be taken by angling, hand dip netting, gigging, and bow and arrow.
Many years ago I killed a limit of grouse with a slingshot. I didn't realize it wasn't a legal method until sometime later when I happened to read this section. Just trying to help keep you from making a similar mistake.
Thanks for the help, I still dont understand why? Hunters do it worldwide so I don't understand why it would be illegal. If its because of lead then I can use an alloy pellet, if its because of power then I don't know what to say because my 32grain .22 pellet travels at about 950-1000fps which is about 60fpe and some subsonic cartridges for the .22lr are rated at 40fpe and you can use that but not a 60fpe air rifle :o?
Are you trying to convince us? That probably will have zero effect. F&W laws are written by either the Wildlife Commission or the legislature. Very few are written by HuntWA members. :chuckle: If it's something you're passionate about, start writing letters.
Post by: dawei on April 22, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 22, 2013, 11:38:43 AM
(12) "Firearm," as defined in RCW 9.41.010, means a weapon or device from which a projectile or projectiles may be fired by an explosive such as gunpowder. For purposes of this chapter, "firearm" does not include BB guns, pellet guns, paintball guns, or other guns that use compressed air as a propellant, or immobilization guns used in animal restraint by department personnel.
Post by: alex77147 on April 22, 2013, 07:59:31 PM
From page 76 of the 2012 Hunting regs, under "Prohibited Hunting Methods":Quote11. Prohibited firearms/hunting methods
It is illegal to:
• Hunt game birds with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells.
• Hunt game birds with a rifle or pistol, except forest grouse.
• Hunt game birds or game animals with anything other than a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry. Bullfrogs may only be taken by angling, hand dip netting, gigging, and bow and arrow.
Many years ago I killed a limit of grouse with a slingshot. I didn't realize it wasn't a legal method until sometime later when I happened to read this section. Just trying to help keep you from making a similar mistake.
Thanks for the help, I still dont understand why? Hunters do it worldwide so I don't understand why it would be illegal. If its because of lead then I can use an alloy pellet, if its because of power then I don't know what to say because my 32grain .22 pellet travels at about 950-1000fps which is about 60fpe and some subsonic cartridges for the .22lr are rated at 40fpe and you can use that but not a 60fpe air rifle :o?
Are you trying to convince us? That probably will have zero effect. F&W laws are written by either the Wildlife Commission or the legislature. Very few are written by HuntWA members. :chuckle: If it's something you're passionate about, start writing letters.
well no, a sane individual doesn't need to be convinced. its like having laws for what you can and can't eat with a fork or a spoon, it doesn't make much sense(yes a fork or spoon might be more suitable for one meal than another but as long as you can eat it why not?). I kinda feel bummed out because I spent a decent amount of money building this thing for small game only to find out its illegal :-/ Anyway who do I write letters to?
Post by: bare.hunter on April 22, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
Post by: bare.hunter on April 22, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
The area around vancouver lake is a firearm restricted area.I coon hunt and trap there and there are alot of rabbits and alot of public land.Go west on fourth plain blvd until it ends walk off the end of the road and you should have a race in a few minutesYou do have beagles right.
Post by: alex77147 on April 22, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
The area around vancouver lake is a firearm restricted area.I coon hunt and trap there and there are alot of rabbits and alot of public land.Go west on fourth plain blvd until it ends walk off the end of the road and you should have a race in a few minutes
I got no dogs, don't have the room to keep em. which part are you talking about? cause I thought that you can hunt vancouver lake on la frambois road and at the end of lower river road past vancouver lake part but only with a shotgun or a bow. I'm tempted to just go shoot anyway but I dont wanna break the law.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2013, 06:10:57 AM
As far as who to write is concerned, start with your state representative or senator and ask them if they'll look into it with F&W for you. You also might consider writing the wildlife commission. All of these contacts are available online by email, but a hand-written letter will get more attention.
Post by: alex77147 on April 23, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
Alex, the pellet, air, and BB guns have been illegal all along. So, sorry about what you've spent on building these, but you might have done the research first. The law has to do with humane kills. Perhaps it was written before you could get a pellet gun capable of killing humanely, but that's why the law is there.
As far as who to write is concerned, start with your state representative or senator and ask them if they'll look into it with F&W for you. You also might consider writing the wildlife commission. All of these contacts are available online by email, but a hand-written letter will get more attention.
I see what you are saying, but high power air guns have been around for a long time. But when someone says air gun most people think of their daisy bb gun not something that would sling a .45 cal 450grain slug at over 800 feet per second. I thought i posted this on here but did you guys know Lewis and Clark hunted with an air gun? Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI)
Part of the real reason I didn't research much about air gun hunting in our state is I have heard many things like you can get permission to hunt with it after it is inspected and is powerful enough to kill game. Another reason is I have been watching a lot of videos in which people all over the globe hunt with air guns and figured well it must be legal in every state.
Post by: jstanley on April 23, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
Post by: alex77147 on April 24, 2013, 12:33:38 PM
I think the website should let you re title posts. This quickly went off the topic of rabbit hunting hahaha :chuckle: :chuckle:
lol sorry, yeah if I cant use my air gun i'm still interested, I guess ill have to get a .22 or a .17hmr
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2013, 12:37:15 PM
I think the website should let you re title posts. This quickly went off the topic of rabbit hunting hahaha :chuckle: :chuckle:
lol sorry, yeah if I cant use my air gun i'm still interested, I guess ill have to get a .22 or a .17hmr
Not on Vancouver Lake or Lower River by Shilapoo - shotgun and bow only. a .22 or .17 would be very unsafe there.
Post by: alex77147 on April 24, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
I think the website should let you re title posts. This quickly went off the topic of rabbit hunting hahaha :chuckle: :chuckle:
lol sorry, yeah if I cant use my air gun i'm still interested, I guess ill have to get a .22 or a .17hmr
Not on Vancouver Lake or Lower River by Shilapoo - shotgun and bow only. a .22 or .17 would be very unsafe there.
Yeah don't worry I won't be using those there, so any other area but that one will have to do.
Post by: BiggLuke on May 07, 2013, 01:14:49 PM
You are limited to feral rabbits that may have escaped and gone wild.
I know near where I live, I had an ex who lived in down town poulsbo and there were hundreds of those suckers all over the place.
Every shape and color.
The City of poulsbo has rules against firearms being used in city limits.... but, her uncle, who was a local sheriff deputy said it was perfectly legal to control these "Feral" animals with a "BB gun"
I never had the chance to, but he said his kids would take 10 or 20 a summer in their back yard as practice for the hunting season.
My advice, find a farm that needs some help.
Or post a flyer at the local feed store explaining you want rabbit meat, and will come catch it yourself. ;)
Post by: dawei on May 07, 2013, 01:25:43 PM
I,ve seen signs in certain areas where only steel shot was allowed, as far as useing a pellet rifle I have no idea. You'd have to call the wildlife dept. and ask them. I'd use a 22long rifle, a 22 magnum or a 17HMR instead of a pellet gun. A couple of beagles & a 20 gauge double barrel is a lot more fun.That's how I do it!!!!!
Post by: alex77147 on May 09, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
Yes you can use an air rifle, and yes you can shoot them now.... however....
You are limited to feral rabbits that may have escaped and gone wild.
I know near where I live, I had an ex who lived in down town poulsbo and there were hundreds of those suckers all over the place.
Every shape and color.
The City of poulsbo has rules against firearms being used in city limits.... but, her uncle, who was a local sheriff deputy said it was perfectly legal to control these "Feral" animals with a "BB gun"
I never had the chance to, but he said his kids would take 10 or 20 a summer in their back yard as practice for the hunting season.
My advice, find a farm that needs some help.
Or post a flyer at the local feed store explaining you want rabbit meat, and will come catch it yourself. ;)
So I did find out it is illegal to use an air rifle for any kind of hunting in WA except for unclassified wildlife, I dont know if it is any different for pest control on a farm lol. So the European rabbit is unclassified that means I can hunt it, do we have any here? Another thing is how can you tell them apart at say 50-100yards? cottontail, european they all look the same to me at that distance.