Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Bean Counter on April 25, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
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Hey gang,
I'm thinking about completing the circle this year and adding a smokepole to my hunting repitoire. i've heard of a muzzy or two that can be modified (legally) so that it can be used in more restrictive states like WA and then other states where scopes and inlines are permissible. Can anyone tell me the names of such guns and whether they're worth having?
Thanks.
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Knight "disc extreme" would be and is my first choice.
Here is mine. Just a change of the breech plug and add or remove the scope and your ready to go. Peep and bases are Talley
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight012.jpg&hash=633dcdc7424df6d240fb3258aef1d349df723e7d)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight013.jpg&hash=1dea6c96662ba54f7485d8cb871f0e49e3943634)
Peep for hunting Wa.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight007.jpg&hash=d76f3b71cdf3e3ff46eb8a4ccbbcf057a58777ff)
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Hey gang,
I'm thinking about completing the circle this year and adding a smokepole to my hunting repitoire. i've heard of a muzzy or two that can be modified (legally) so that it can be used in more restrictive states like WA and then other states where scopes and inlines are permissible. Can anyone tell me the names of such guns and whether they're worth having?
Thanks.
As already suggested the Knight DISC Extreme is one of those rifles that can be made Pacific Northwest Legal and yet be change back to provide the performance of a modern inline muzzleloader. It is an extremely good rifle, accurate and dependable.
Knight has introduced a new rifle that also fills the bill and is an excellent rifle - the Ultra-Lite...
Western Style...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520Ultra-Lite%2FWesternEditionpg1.jpg&hash=6b5d9749eb6da18c503631a52546b8007627d011) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20Ultra-Lite/WesternEditionpg1.jpg.html)
Converted back to a Modern Scoped ML.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520Ultra-Lite%2FConvComposite.jpg&hash=31c7c592262d4d1e3e3591046874ecab7bc199ea) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20Ultra-Lite/ConvComposite.jpg.html)
Here are a couple of threads you might want to look at...
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120357.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,120357.0.html)
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121220.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121220.0.html)
I thinks that Bob's Sporting Goods in Washington has some of the best prices on these Western Legal rifles.
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Thanks guys. Wow, that would be my most valuable hunting weapon!
Ok option 2. What about a cheap, WA state only muzzy?
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define cheap?
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Right now on hunt-wa classifieds a member has a knight bighorn and a knight wolverene for sale. Very reasonable price. Great condition and WA legal. :tup: also convertable to whatever ignition system you want.
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define cheap?
I have a Remington chambered in .270 and a Ruger chambered in .30-06. I paid $200 for the Remmy and $300 for the Ruger. used, beat up, and old. Love it at the range. I pull the trigger, it goes bang. Kill stuff, fill freezer. I think that people spend way too much on their weapon systems and not enough on optics, boots, gas for scouting, etc. I have no desire to drop $1,000 on a weapon only to be too fretted out about putting a scratch on it that I never want to use it for what I bought it for. Used, scratched, maybe even a little rust is fine by me.
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Right now on hunt-wa classifieds a member has a knight bighorn and a knight wolverene for sale. Very reasonable price. Great condition and WA legal. :tup: also convertable to whatever ignition system you want.
Cool, thanks.
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any other input welcome.
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Thompson center black diamond has treated me well. I scope it for bear and modern firearm deer and it does fine eather way. I bought it ay G.I joes for 200 dollars.
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Knight "disc extreme" would be and is my first choice.
Here is mine. Just a change of the breech plug and add or remove the scope and your ready to go. Peep and bases are Talley
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight012.jpg&hash=633dcdc7424df6d240fb3258aef1d349df723e7d)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight013.jpg&hash=1dea6c96662ba54f7485d8cb871f0e49e3943634)
Peep for hunting Wa.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight007.jpg&hash=d76f3b71cdf3e3ff46eb8a4ccbbcf057a58777ff)
Iam to understand that you can take your scope off and then put the peep on and the zero stays the same.
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I have my peep set to hit 4" high at 100 yards setup for my eastern Wa hunting and my scope set the same on the main crosshairs, you can zero your peep/scope(Leupold VX3 2.5-8X36 B&C) for whatever you want.
I hunt Ohio's gun season(no bottle neck rifle cartridges)and IMO the ML is the way to go for anything 200+ yards, Out of my ground blind off shooting sticks I cover and area that my shooting can run out as far as 300 yards. Longest kill to date....254 yards says the Leupold rangefinder. Took this buck with the ML in Ohio. One shot drop! Smashing does is a good time as well
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FIMAG0213.jpg&hash=5976f0d67604b667d5f8590b682eed56eb9f6965)
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I was thinking about a peep-site, scope combo for my disk extreme. I hoping to find a weaver/picitinny rail type base where I can leave the peep site on, and only remove the scope when needed. Anyone got one of those?
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Oh, good question.
Tagging to follow... Oh wait :rolleyes: :P
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Thompson center black diamond has treated me well. I scope it for bear and modern firearm deer and it does fine eather way. I bought it ay G.I joes for 200 dollars.
:yeah:
Couldn't be happier with my Black diamond! Got it used in brand new condition for 220
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Knight "disc extreme" would be and is my first choice.
Here is mine. Just a change of the breech plug and add or remove the scope and your ready to go. Peep and bases are Talley
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight012.jpg&hash=633dcdc7424df6d240fb3258aef1d349df723e7d)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight013.jpg&hash=1dea6c96662ba54f7485d8cb871f0e49e3943634)
Peep for hunting Wa.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FKnight007.jpg&hash=d76f3b71cdf3e3ff46eb8a4ccbbcf057a58777ff)
I bought the same setup today cant wait for it to get here.it is custom so will take a couple of weeks.
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You should be set....I figured this will be all the ML I'll ever need for hunting big game. Did you get the 50 or 52 cal?
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I have my peep set to hit 4" high at 100 yards setup for my eastern Wa hunting and my scope set the same on the main crosshairs, you can zero your peep/scope(Leupold VX3 2.5-8X36 B&C) for whatever you want.
I hunt Ohio's gun season(no bottle neck rifle cartridges)and IMO the ML is the way to go for anything 200+ yards, Out of my ground blind off shooting sticks I cover and area that my shooting can run out as far as 300 yards. Longest kill to date....254 yards says the Leupold rangefinder. Took this buck with the ML in Ohio. One shot drop! Smashing does is a good time as well
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi82.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj253%2FCoyotewallace%2FIMAG0213.jpg&hash=5976f0d67604b667d5f8590b682eed56eb9f6965)
I've alway wanted to hun in Ohio, I did most of my deer hunting in Upstate New York and Northern Pennslvania.
Ohio and Indiana alway looked like nice deer country.
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You should be set....I figured this will be all the ML I'll ever need for hunting big game. Did you get the 50 or 52 cal?
i had the knight 50 cal bighorn already I just finaly found the sights I needed.
thanks for the post got me headed in the right direction.
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You should be set....I figured this will be all the ML I'll ever need for hunting big game. Did you get the 50 or 52 cal?
i had the knight 50 cal bighorn already I just finaly found the sights I needed.
thanks for the post got me headed in the right direction.
anytime
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:tup: i will go along with that
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If you want something cheap, light and dependable, CVA Buckhorn 209, nothing special, but i live how light it is. Just need a musket cap breech plug and you're good to go. It's drilled and tapped for a scope, I've seen used ones on Gunbroker for $90