Post by: Johnb317 on April 26, 2013, 03:31:50 PM
Which would you do and why?
Thanks
Post by: Elkpiss on April 26, 2013, 03:35:05 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on April 26, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
Post by: kglacken on April 26, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
I would go Idaho just to get away from the rainforests. I don't mind hunting in thicker timber but I HATE being soaked all the time. :yike:Usually early season you are not soaked. If anything you get soaked with sweat!
If you can afford Idaho, I say do that. I hunt SW Washington and it is a disappointment. Only reason I still hunt it is because I am 20 and cant afford an Idaho trip. Plus I just feel the need to master hunting my home ground. Idaho will bring bigger bulls and less pressure
Post by: sirmissalot on April 26, 2013, 03:51:32 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 26, 2013, 04:52:49 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 26, 2013, 05:04:20 PM
Of course there is something humbling about stalking big elk through thick timber in a rain storm.... :chuckle:Good luck with whatever you choose.
Post by: Bullkllr on April 26, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 06, 2013, 08:35:36 AM
Hunting your home ground can be to your advantage though... Western Washington is fun to hunt as long as you got ur honey holes :) and no wolves yet... Idaho elk have been slaughtered.I would go Idaho just to get away from the rainforests. I don't mind hunting in thicker timber but I HATE being soaked all the time. :yike:Usually early season you are not soaked. If anything you get soaked with sweat!
If you can afford Idaho, I say do that. I hunt SW Washington and it is a disappointment. Only reason I still hunt it is because I am 20 and cant afford an Idaho trip. Plus I just feel the need to master hunting my home ground. Idaho will bring bigger bulls and less pressure
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 06, 2013, 08:47:20 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 06, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 06, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 06, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
Depends on what method your talking about. Western WA for archery, for my party, has proven to be an excellent choice the past 10 years with almost no pressure from other hunters and an extremely high success rate. However, you couldn't pay me enough money to hunt those same areas during the general season, fricken joke and a zoo. I would definitely do some more research on Idaho, success rates for different methods, type of terrain, etc. . Also ask your self what species your used to hunting. Typically Rosies are not going to move that much, so you may need to learn a whole new skill set or at least mind set as to how to hunt Rockies.R u hunting with a rifle is that why its a zoo?
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on May 06, 2013, 09:09:33 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 06, 2013, 09:48:25 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 06, 2013, 09:52:22 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 06, 2013, 10:18:47 AM
Then you wouldnt ever get one.. No time to hunt bothin 2011 I killed a bull in sw wa and a bull in Idaho... :dunno:
The Idaho archery season is just getting good when wa archery closes.
There are lots of days in the fall!
Post by: billdo5 on May 06, 2013, 10:29:07 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on May 06, 2013, 05:48:33 PM
Walked right into a herd when walking back to camp after dark.
(They were supposed to start their move earlier!)
Post by: 300rum on May 06, 2013, 06:31:57 PM
Post by: tboltjade on May 06, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
Post by: de0827 on May 06, 2013, 09:37:26 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 06:42:17 AM
Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 07:43:05 AM
As far as cost goes, add up all of your cost to hunt Washington and I think you would find that it is just a stone throw to get an Idaho tag. For instance, what are your draw odds for a branch bull in a good area? Really I have no clue what the odds are, but say it is just five years between "quality" permits (conservative). Add up all your costs for 5 years for one quality hunt. I have something like 13 points and have never been drawn!
Myself, I am done playing the "tax the resident" game in Washington, I have been going to Montana and Idaho. Plus, they sell wolf tags too!
Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 08:03:10 AM
There may have been more game back in the day, I'm sure there was, I didn't hunt it 10 years ago. There is plenty of game in Idaho, I see as many elk there as I do here and I am after bucks, not even targeting elk (cause I don't want to pack them out!). You aren't going to see them from the pickup though!I dont need to get drawn to kill a decent bull... i hunt elk on the west side. If you cant find a good elk without getting drawn in the state of washington then you sit on the couch to much(Hense you dont want to pack it out). Or u just live in the city. Oh and cost i can stay ay my house saves me buying extra food and a place to sleep :IBCOOL:
As far as cost goes, add up all of your cost to hunt Washington and I think you would find that it is just a stone throw to get an Idaho tag. For instance, what are your draw odds for a branch bull in a good area? Really I have no clue what the odds are, but say it is just five years between "quality" permits (conservative). Add up all your costs for 5 years for one quality hunt. I have something like 13 points and have never been drawn!
Myself, I am done playing the "tax the resident" game in Washington, I have been going to Montana and Idaho. Plus, they sell wolf tags too!Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Post by: Elkpiss on May 07, 2013, 08:06:01 AM
Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Have you ever hunted Idaho? Everybody knows the wolves are bad in Idaho and its effected the elk hunting, however there are still Monster bulls to be had in Idaho OTC.... Get to Idaho early find the heard and call UM in, you should know that Bildo... :tup:
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 08:11:59 AM
Most of the elk over there are mute because of the wolves u should know that :IBCOOL:Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Have you ever hunted Idaho? Everybody knows the wolves are bad in Idaho and its effected the elk hunting, however there are still Monster bulls to be had in Idaho OTC.... Get to Idaho early find the heard and call UM in, you should know that Bildo... :tup:
Post by: Elkpiss on May 07, 2013, 08:19:41 AM
Most of the elk over there are mute because of the wolves u should know that :IBCOOL:Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Have you ever hunted Idaho? Everybody knows the wolves are bad in Idaho and its effected the elk hunting, however there are still Monster bulls to be had in Idaho OTC.... Get to Idaho early find the heard and call UM in, you should know that Bildo... :tup:
Have you hunted them? :dunno: Again everyone knows there are wolves in Idaho lots of them... And yes the elk adapt to the Wolves, they do shut up when they hear the wolves howl, same thing as the Moose in Canada, when the wolves howl the moose adios, point being made you can still call and kill the $hit out of the moose in canada and call and kill the $hit out of the bulls in Idaho!...
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 08:25:05 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on May 07, 2013, 08:28:14 AM
Im not saying that they are being quite just because they hear a wolf howl... they are staying mute year round to stay undetected because they know if they bugle a wolf will be on them in no time... And just because bulls are taken out that doesnt mean they are big... Havent seen a decent pic on this site so far... :dunno: :chuckle:I think this site is called Hunt-WA Not Hunt-Idaho :dunno: Maybe thats why you havent seen bulls posted from Idaho ? :dunno:
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
Im not saying that they are being quite just because they hear a wolf howl... they are staying mute year round to stay undetected because they know if they bugle a wolf will be on them in no time... And just because bulls are taken out that doesnt mean they are big... Havent seen a decent pic on this site so far... :dunno: :chuckle:I think this site is called Hunt-WA Not Hunt-Idaho :dunno: Maybe thats why you havent seen bulls posted from Idaho ? :dunno:
hahah look at 2012 bulls... people post from all states... :dunno: I guess u need to tell those guys to leave this site :dunno:
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 09:08:25 AM
Most of the elk over there are mute because of the wolves u should know that :IBCOOL:Idaho without a second thought. Way more game and higher quality animals if you are willing to put in the work.U should say there use to be more game and higher quality animals... I havent seen very many big bull photos taken out of there this year..? :dunno: I would rather save money by hunting in my home state instead of spending more money by driving over there and the other expenses, when your probably going to see lots of doggy prints on the ground (Wolves) and ive heard that the elk over there are getting smarter and most are mute because of the wolves...
Have you ever hunted Idaho? Everybody knows the wolves are bad in Idaho and its effected the elk hunting, however there are still Monster bulls to be had in Idaho OTC.... Get to Idaho early find the heard and call UM in, you should know that Bildo... :tup:
Have you hunted them? :dunno: Again everyone knows there are wolves in Idaho lots of them... And yes the elk adapt to the Wolves, they do shut up when they hear the wolves howl, same thing as the Moose in Canada, when the wolves howl the moose adios, point being made you can still call and kill the $hit out of the moose in canada and call and kill the $hit out of the bulls in Idaho!...
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 09:23:47 AM
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 09:38:49 AM
As much as I don't want to see anyone else on the mountain I happen to be on, I recommend everyone take a trip out of state if they can. It is night and day different, if you do the work. Way too many don't step out because they were told that the wolves have eaten up all the game or that the tags are too expensive, or they don't know where to go. There is some truth to that but it isn't a desert and it in fact can be like hunting in a zoo if you find the right place.
Hunting is just about like everything else in life, the top 10% take 90%. You know the guy, the one that always punches his tag (or could have punched his tag) every single year and seems to get the highest quality animal.
There is some great hunting in Washington but it is nice to still be able to pull into a hardware store with wood floors and buy a Deer/Elk tag over the counter and know that you will see quality animals and very few hunters.
Well the ones on here arent thats all that matters... :dunno:
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 09:44:06 AM
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
I see quality game and no hunters but i archery hunt so that helps... and you know that guy that punches his tag every year??? (9/9 on deer so you could say im one of those guys) lol cocky much?
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 09:47:47 AM
Post by: 300rum on May 07, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
:chuckle: lol your one of the guys i like on this site... Needs to be more like you thats for sure..
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Post by: JM on May 07, 2013, 09:59:27 AM
Im not saying that they are being quite just because they hear a wolf howl... they are staying mute year round to stay undetected because they know if they bugle a wolf will be on them in no time... And just because bulls are taken out that doesnt mean they are big... Havent seen a decent pic on this site so far... :dunno: :chuckle:
Hey Billdo! back at it again huh?
The elk in Idaho are not going mute at all because of the wolves, they're actually still pretty vocal where I deer hunt and there are always fresh wolf tracks everywhere.
You should go over there some time and see for yourself. Besides if that was the case then wouldn't most west side bulls be mute because (SPORTSMAN) call them in and either spook them or shoot them?
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 10:03:13 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on May 07, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
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Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Post by: JM on May 07, 2013, 10:10:15 AM
I've never hunted west side elk so I only hear what the elk hunting is like over there and couldn't give this person advice on his question? Just like you've only heard what the elk hunting is like in Idaho, but yet you tell him some rumor you heard.
Do you know how rumors are spread Billdo? They're spread by someone giving BS advice to someone else because they heard something from a friend of a friend who drove through Idaho and saw a wolf track.
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 10:11:59 AM
Post by: JM on May 07, 2013, 10:16:30 AM
I believe the person who started the thread is going to hunt both Idaho and Western Washington so good luck.
Post by: Elkpiss on May 07, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
I see quality game and no hunters but i archery hunt so that helps... and you know that guy that punches his tag every year??? (9/9 on deer so you could say im one of those guys) lol cocky much?
Come on Bildo who gives a $hit about deer... 9/9 :chuckle:.. You still count? :dunno: were talking Elk Buddy!.... :tup:
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 10:23:23 AM
Post by: JM on May 07, 2013, 10:57:07 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on May 07, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
I used to love Idaho, but our spot was ruined once the wolves grabbed hold. That said, I haven't spent any time looking for a new area, I do know there is some great hunting to be had there though just much harder for a guy like me to find those spots opposed to a place close to home.
Post by: billdo5 on May 07, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 07, 2013, 04:15:08 PM
U Probably put in the time to scout... most people dontI didn't set foot into the area I hunted in Idaho until the seasons was open that year. And I only spend a week a year in the area I elk hunt in wa. Elk are in Tue same areas year after year...
Post by: idaho guy on May 07, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
Post by: huntnnw on May 07, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
Post by: JLS on May 08, 2013, 07:26:37 AM
If you have time, hunt them both. If you want a new adventure, go to Idaho and see somewhere new. If money and time is tight, maximize your use of it and hunt in WA.
Contrary to internet gospel, there are still elk in Idaho. And, they still bugle. If you don't hear or see elk, move on and don't waste your time. You would also have time to hunt both states because of the way the seasons lay.
Good luck!
Post by: vandeman17 on May 08, 2013, 09:19:43 AM
John,lol if you dont hear them move on even though they are there... wtf are u talking about... ur method of hunting elk is very unique. Some elk come in quite so you only want to chase around the ones that are bugling??? Some of the biggest bulls arent bugling over there... have fun with a rag horn
If you have time, hunt them both. If you want a new adventure, go to Idaho and see somewhere new. If money and time is tight, maximize your use of it and hunt in WA.
Contrary to internet gospel, there are still elk in Idaho. And, they still bugle. If you don't hear or see elk, move on and don't waste your time. You would also have time to hunt both states because of the way the seasons lay.
Good luck!
All it seems like he wants to do is :stirthepot:
I agree with the other posters who actually are putting thought into this. There are still plenty of elk in Idaho if you work for them. If you want an adventure and to see some new land, then go to Idaho and see some new things. I enjoy going to different areas and hunting different spots. It is not all about the kill or the size of the bull but about the experience as a whole. :twocents:
Post by: vandeman17 on May 08, 2013, 09:28:18 AM
Im not stirring the pot that just sounds stupid... I think im going to stick to RokSlide because those guys actually have common sense
Have you ever hunted elk in Idaho?
Post by: JPhelps on May 08, 2013, 09:38:19 AM
Im not stirring the pot that just sounds stupid... I think im going to stick to RokSlide because those guys actually have common sense
:chuckle:
Aron Snyder threatened to "beat you into the ground like a fence post".
Then you are on there questioning hunters like Justin and Les. Get a life!!!
I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you have confirmed you are a derelict. I wish I had the BAN button because you would be gone. You derail a ton of topics when people are seeking advice. Good thing is you have lost so much credibility no one listens to you anyways.
To the OP there are still many good places to elk hunt in Idaho. I'm considering hunting both Washington and Idaho this year, myself.
Post by: vandeman17 on May 08, 2013, 09:39:18 AM
Im not stirring the pot that just sounds stupid... I think im going to stick to RokSlide because those guys actually have common sense
:chuckle:
Aron Snyder threatened to "beat you into the ground like a fence post".
Then you are on there questioning hunters like Justin and Les. Get a life!!!
I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you have confirmed you are a derelict. I wish I had the BAN button because you would be gone. You derail a ton of topics when people are seeking advice. Good thing is you have lost so much credibility no one listens to you anyways.
To the OP there are still many good places to elk hunt in Idaho. I'm considering hunting both Washington and Idaho this year, myself.
AMEN!
Post by: TheHunt on May 08, 2013, 09:55:17 AM
Looking at hunting timberland SW WA for Rosies, or Rocky Mountain in Idaho (3.5 hour hike in country)
Which would you do and why?
Thanks
I have hunted Idaho many times archery only. Most the helping comments are on target. If I was you I would give the Idaho hunt a go. Please be aware there are areas in Idaho that are as thick as they are on the West Side of Washington and there are some open areas as well. I would suggest you go to Idaho and have fun. Put in your time on the phone talking to the experts or email to get a good location. For your first trip...
Post by: JM on May 08, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
Post by: JLS on May 08, 2013, 05:40:26 PM
:chuckle:
Aron Snyder threatened to "beat you into the ground like a fence post".
I'll make the first donation into the hat to get that project underway :chuckle:
Post by: JLS on May 08, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
For John and others wanting to hunt elk in wolf country. If you don't see or hear elk, and you are not finding fresh elk sign, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! How many times do people have to reinvent the wheel here? Elk move, particularly when they are harassed or pressured. Anyone that has hunted for very long knows full well that a basin containing 100 elk on one day can be devoid of elk the next. So why would you keep hunting there if they are no longer there?
Wolves move elk just like human hunters do. If all of a sudden you aren't seeing, hearing, smelling elk there is a good reason why. They are no longer there. Obviously in brushy and dense country this can pose some challenges, but elk are vocal in the dark. Even when it's blistering hot and dry, they are still vocal at night the majority of the time.
I'm not some genius, and no magazines are ringing my phone off the hook asking for articles, but this is what I have learned through real world experience, hunting in wolf county. Take it for what it's worth, and what you paid for it.
Rock on Billdo.
Post by: elk247 on May 08, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
Im not stirring the pot that just sounds stupid... I think im going to stick to RokSlide because those guys actually have common sense
I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you have confirmed you are a derelict. I wish I had the BAN button because you would be gone. You derail a ton of topics when people are seeking advice. Good thing is you have lost so much credibility no one listens to you anyways.
I hope the mods on here hold you to your word billdo. Your info is so far from factual that you not only do not contribute anything, but you might actually be steering new hunters in the complete wrong direction. Which is a violation of the rules of this forum. I'm with JP on this one. Dont let the door hit ya.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on May 08, 2013, 09:37:53 PM
Post by: JM on May 08, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
I really hope they don't 86 him from here because I think reading peoples comments about him are pretty amusing. It's kinda like him not being original in his retorts, he just needs some constructive critisism to figure it out and blossum.
Post by: huntnnw on May 08, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 13, 2013, 07:20:35 AM
Billdo and I had about a week long conversation through PM's and I actually started to feel bad for the kid. He's a pretty good guy but he's just got a big chip on his shoulder for some reason? I guess killing 9 deer and an elk or two is a big deal to him?:chuckle:
I really hope they don't 86 him from here because I think reading peoples comments about him are pretty amusing. It's kinda like him not being original in his retorts, he just needs some constructive critisism to figure it out and blossum.
Post by: billdo5 on May 13, 2013, 07:26:56 AM