Post by: monster on April 29, 2013, 06:23:09 PM
Post by: Gutpile on April 29, 2013, 06:30:25 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on April 29, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
With all the LAWS and new to front loaders. Is this model legal in WA ?
It is a legal pacific Northwest muzzleloader and it is a good one! Another one that you might look at is a Knight DISC Extreme with a Western Kit installed -awesome gun.
If you are anywhere near Bob's Sporting Goods - it would be hard to beat his prices... He might even still have one of the new Ultra-Lites with a Western Kit installed.
Each of these rifles can use an exposed percussion cap... either musket or #11 - if you go with the #11 make sure it is a Magnum cap.
Post by: Tshawytscha on April 29, 2013, 09:04:59 PM
Post by: EyeTooth on May 01, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
And it's a good muzzleloader.
Post by: BiggLuke on May 23, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
Yeah, what they said.
Remember also, no scope.
Post by: WonkyWapiti on May 30, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Post by: scottcrb on May 30, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
Post by: bear hunter on May 30, 2013, 07:48:14 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on May 30, 2013, 09:15:06 PM
just got a knight disc in .50 with the western legal kit on it.
Out standing rifle and an excellent choice!!! With that rifle you have a lot if options you can exercise
Post by: Drysider on June 28, 2013, 01:45:13 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 28, 2013, 02:40:50 PM
I too am new to the ML world. I've been lurking in the shadows here, reading and learning. About a month ago I found a smokin' deal on a Bighorn with Thumbhole stock, so now its in the safe. It "was" a 209 gun, swapped the Breech Plug and nipple and now its a Western Edition. Decided to try the sight set up Sabotloader has talked about, hooded streamline ramp w/ firesight and Williams peep. One question to you guys, are the dovetails on the ramp and Firesight a real tight fit?
They are tight, but you can use a small 'c' clamp to get them started and a bruss punch to move it to the final spot. You can also get a small 3 sided file and work the dovetail in the ramp just a bit at a time to make the installation a bit easier, but you don not want it to easy... I really need to get a picture of how I use the 'c' clamp.
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Mine were super tight and required a bit of adjustment. I got all the part #'s from Sabotloaders posts, so I think that it all should be ok, just got it on the rifle today, now its time to burn some powder~!
Happy powder burning! :tup:
Post by: Drysider on June 28, 2013, 03:05:26 PM
They are tight, but you can use a small 'c' clamp to get them started and a bruss punch to move it to the final spot. You can also get a small 3 sided file and work the dovetail in the ramp just a bit at a time to make the installation a bit easier, but you don not want it to easy...QuoteI did almost precisely that, with the exception of the C clamp, it's on and ready for sighting! :tup: Now I just gotta find somewhere with #11 mag caps in stock >:(
On another note, I've read on here where you talk about a 6 o'clock hold, is that as easy to sight in for as I'm thinking...hold at 6 o'clock of where I'd want my POI to be?
Post by: Sabotloader on June 28, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
They are tight, but you can use a small 'c' clamp to get them started and a bruss punch to move it to the final spot. You can also get a small 3 sided file and work the dovetail in the ramp just a bit at a time to make the installation a bit easier, but you don not want it to easy...
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I did almost precisely that, with the exception of the C clamp, it's on and ready for sighting! :tup: Now I just gotta find somewhere with #11 mag caps in stock >:(
On another note, I've read on here where you talk about a 6 o'clock hold, is that as easy to sight in for as I'm thinking...hold at 6 o'clock of where I'd want my POI to be?
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I have always used a 6 o'clock hold even with scopes, but especially wtih open sights and a front blade... I just feel that it allows me to the spot that I an shooting at. I also use a 6" PBR - so at a 100 yards I know I am going to be approximately 3" with a ML bullet. And somewhere around 175 yards I will be 3" down. Just kinda a rough configuration because it really depends on the bullet and the powder load...
These are examples of 6 o'clock holds..
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FArchive%2FOpen_sight_pictures1.jpg&hash=e4694212462dd1d6dd1f6f739c47b87f06ea3c80) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Archive/Open_sight_pictures1.jpg.html)
Post by: Drysider on July 28, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
Post by: bear hunter on July 30, 2013, 06:11:55 PM
I've had the Bighorn out a couple times now. So far I'm managing 3" groups at 100 yards, which I'm totally happy with, groups have been tightening up, so we'll see where this shooter can get to, the rifle certainly does its job flawlessly! I have been most impressed with the crispness of the trigger...definitely a Knight fan now!My bighorn loves the 250 gr shockwave bullets. I average group is 1.5 at 100 yards. My load is 150 grs of powder topped with 250 gr bullet work great. Good luck this hunting season.