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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: spotter26 on April 30, 2013, 11:11:08 AM

Title: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: spotter26 on April 30, 2013, 11:11:08 AM: any word if sierra pacific is gunna charge to hunt their lands too?
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: bobcat on April 30, 2013, 11:14:13 AM: I would expect them to in the future but I don't think so for this year.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: bbarnes on April 30, 2013, 03:58:21 PM: Time to Quit hunting and supporting this then they will beg us to hunt.For two reasons the elk will eat all there worthless trees and two WDFW will have no revenue source.Call your reps quit bitching on this site and others and be and active part of the process.This happenens when your voice isn't heard i personally have a right to bitch i show up and have my voice heard right wrong or indifferent.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: snowpack on April 30, 2013, 04:03:04 PM: there'll be enough wolves in there soon enough that they won't be too concerned about elk and deer eating trees.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: spotter26 on April 30, 2013, 05:52:57 PM: Quote from: bbarnes on April 30, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
Time to Quit hunting and supporting this then they will beg us to hunt.For two reasons the elk will eat all there worthless trees and two WDFW will have no revenue source.Call your reps quit bitching on this site and others and be and active part of the process.This happenens when your voice isn't heard i personally have a right to bitch i show up and have my voice heard right wrong or indifferent.

already have been working with wdfw and wildlife biologists about various issues ie hoof rot. so you dont have to tell me.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: Alan K on April 30, 2013, 06:42:48 PM: Rumor has it, maybe next year. Too far behind in planning etc. to get it done this year.

Quote from: bbarnes on April 30, 2013, 03:58:21 PM
Time to Quit hunting and supporting this then they will beg us to hunt.For two reasons the elk will eat all there worthless trees and two WDFW will have no revenue source.Call your reps quit bitching on this site and others and be and active part of the process.This happenens when your voice isn't heard i personally have a right to bitch i show up and have my voice heard right wrong or indifferent.

Hunting has about zero impact on the amount of damage done to reprod. Maybe a tiny amount, but nothing really measureable. Think of the size of game populations in any given GMU, and the amount of animals removed each year. A small fraction. Then consider that most of the damage is done in the spring and summer on the new growth, it's evident that the 'pressure' put on the animals for a few weeks of hunting is more like a weak effort at hazing than any real detriment.

My neighbor has an 80 acre parcel of timberland and he won't let me hunt it. Who can I write or complain to so that he has to let me hunt his land? I mean, those deer and elk that hang out in that timber patch are the publics animals, he should have to let the public have access to them right? :yike: :puke:

We need to quit whining about private landowners shutting the public out. It's their land, they can do what they want. Just like the neighbor can tell me I can't hunt his property.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: snowpack on April 30, 2013, 06:55:30 PM: Assuming they don't actually receive some kind of tax incentive for allowing recreation, then I would agree with you. Private property, their rules--if they want to charge it's their right. If they do actually get any kind of break as some have said, then I think they lose the break if they want to restrict access.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: blackdog on April 30, 2013, 06:56:10 PM: Alan seems to understand the issue. :dunno:
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: bobcat on April 30, 2013, 07:00:58 PM: I don't believe there is an actual tax break for providing public access to timber company lands. But I do believe that when the tax laws were written, it was expected, and assumed, that these lands would always be there and would be open for public recreation. Maybe it's time to update the tax laws?
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: Alan K on April 30, 2013, 07:02:07 PM: http://www.timbertax.org/statetaxes/states/proptax/washington/ (http://www.timbertax.org/statetaxes/states/proptax/washington/)

Here is some reading on Washington's timberland/timber taxes.
Title: Re: is sierra pacific going to follow weyco and charge too?
Post by: fireweed on May 06, 2013, 08:00:31 AM: Want to keep Sierra Pacific Land open? Write a letter to the editor saying you are now buying Sierra lumber instead of Weyco lumber. Write Home Depot and ask them to stock SPI instead of Weyco. because SPI cares more about communities and still allows free access to land. Any general contractors out there?? Your letters are even more powerful.