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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: Bullkllr on May 03, 2013, 09:39:14 PM

Title: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Bullkllr on May 03, 2013, 09:39:14 PM: After reading the several interesting and informative threads on the Weyco access fees I am stuck at the real goal behind the permit plan, at least the way it is being implemented.

It can't really be about money...? If it were, they could certainly sell more permits than they are presently offering.
Or maybe this initial effort is merely testing the waters to see what future markets for access may bear?

Do they just want to manage the way they see fit, simply because they can?

Since most of the permits will likely be taken up by employees, relatives and friends, it seems that providing quality hunting for those folks seems like a primary goal...?

Am I missing something obvious? Kinda hard to imagine they did not expect a significant backlash, isn't it?

Any thoughts on what the ultimate goal for Weyco might be?
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: fireweed on May 04, 2013, 05:46:44 PM: Control.
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 04, 2013, 06:37:20 PM: I've hunted in there over the past few years, and there are a ton of hunters in there. Maybe their goal is to regulate the # of people so they don't have to worry about so many Yahoos running the wheels off their rigs looking for a spike to shot off the side of the road. If you're putting out money for a permit, and you know they're won't be many guys in there then Maybe people will pass up a spike cause they think they have a better chance of getting a bigger deer. I've seen some tiny ass barely legal spikes come out of there, and personally, I'd rather get skunked than shoot a tiny buck just to say I got one.
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Humptulips on May 05, 2013, 09:59:02 AM: Quote from: Old Man Yager on May 04, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
I've hunted in there over the past few years, and there are a ton of hunters in there. Maybe their goal is to regulate the # of people so they don't have to worry about so many Yahoos running the wheels off their rigs looking for a spike to shot off the side of the road. If you're putting out money for a permit, and you know they're won't be many guys in there then Maybe people will pass up a spike cause they think they have a better chance of getting a bigger deer. I've seen some tiny ass barely legal spikes come out of there, and personally, I'd rather get skunked than shoot a tiny buck just to say I got one.

Why the heck would WEYCO care if you shot a spike?
I find this attitude of looking down on someone that has different priorities then your own when it comes to hunting to be disturbing. Why should anyone care if another hunter wants to just put some good venison on the table? What ever makes you happy should be good enough.
I personally am not impressed by big horns but I do get a kick out of a smile on a kids face with his first spike. Anybody else happy to go home with a buck too, whatever it is. It's all good.
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Wazukie on May 05, 2013, 10:07:22 AM: My guess is that it is a purely financial decision. It costs a lot of money every year to maintain roads and such, not to mention having to haul garbage out constantly. Maybe they are tired of providing a playground for so many people. I know that most hunter's are good stewards of the lands but not everyone is. With so many vehicles running up and down the roads, it gets expensive, not to mention liabilities for the company. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Hunterman on May 05, 2013, 10:19:20 AM: Quote from: Wazukie on May 05, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
My guess is that it is a purely financial decision. It costs a lot of money every year to maintain roads and such, not to mention having to haul garbage out constantly. Maybe they are tired of providing a playground for so many people. I know that most hunter's are good stewards of the lands but not everyone is. With so many vehicles running up and down the roads, it gets expensive, not to mention liabilities for the company. Just my thoughts.

:yeah:

One of the main reasons they stopped the camping was the cost of the clean-up from the camps, not to mention the equipment getting trashed.. As far as killing spikes,, I would rather have some nice young deer cuts in the freezer, than an older tuff one, that you have to beat the hamburger..But don't get me wrong, if I see a big 4point, and a spike standing together, the 4point dies first.

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: wa_archer on May 10, 2013, 08:54:48 PM: Im assuming you guys have never looked into who builds the majority. of there roads its not them your tax money then every tree they have is insured. Its trully a money game I say everyone band togethert and not pay its already almost cheaper to hunt out of state then it is in our own which is disgusting
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: The Gobble-stopper on May 11, 2013, 09:30:06 PM: If it were about money, they could charge everyone that goes through the gate,$5 and they would make a heck of a lot more money than they are going to. I was told by several of the Vail employees, that the head honcho, of Vail is actually a honchoette, and she has been anti hunting and trying to find a way to shut it down every since she came. But the heads of weyerhauser back east said she had to keep it open to hunters. I assume because of the tax breaks, or money given to them from WDFW taken from our license fees to keep the land open. I also assume this is her way of keeping it open, cutting out the regular hunter, while keeper her employees, which I again assume are mostly hunters, "happy"!
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: Mudman on May 11, 2013, 09:42:08 PM: They would prefer nobody was on their property just like you and me. But money is the driving factor of decisions made. Personally I think there is a missing piece to this puzzle yet.
Title: Re: Weyco's Goal, Re:Access Fees ?
Post by: madmack76 on May 11, 2013, 09:49:16 PM: weyco pays for there own roads to be built no one else... I helped build roads for them for 8 years and it is all weyco.