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Title: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 06, 2013, 08:54:52 PM: Kind of an oddball, got a contender barrel Im working up a load in for some close range deer/antelope
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Post by: Ridgeratt on May 06, 2013, 08:56:18 PM: 6.5 TCU now and then.
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Post by: mountainman on May 06, 2013, 09:22:43 PM: Had a custom Remington XP100 with with a rear grip Herret, 15" barrel, sillhouette sightsand added a Leupold 4X instead. Was a shooter but sold it about 25 years ago :-(
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: HighlandLofts on May 06, 2013, 09:52:31 PM: My son has the 7mmTCU on his Contender and uses it for shooting Whitetails back in New York State. I'm going to buy one for my Contender here shortly. He does his own reloading and has that caliber down.
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Post by: JohnVH on May 06, 2013, 10:06:07 PM: Quote from: HighlandLofts on May 06, 2013, 09:52:31 PM
My son has the 7mmTCU on his Contender and uses it for shooting Whitetails back in New York State. I'm going to buy one for my Contender here shortly. He does his own reloading and has that caliber down.

Perfect, do you know his load? I have some 120gr bullets and some 4227 powder ready to test out of a super14 setup.
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: yorketransport on May 08, 2013, 06:22:37 PM: I run 20 gr of IMR 4198 with a 120 Ballistic tip from my 10" barrel. Shoots great and makes a great critter killer.:tup:
Andrew
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 08, 2013, 06:25:53 PM: Quote from: yorketransport on May 08, 2013, 06:22:37 PM
I run 20 gr of IMR 4198 with a 120 Ballistic tip from my 10" barrel. Shoots great and makes a great critter killer.:tup:
Andrew

Have you ever chronyd it?
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: yorketransport on May 08, 2013, 06:38:33 PM: Not recently. I believe they were sitting right around 2000 fps. I'll see if I can dig up my info.

Andrew
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 08, 2013, 06:40:18 PM: cool, thanks, I loaded some 120gr noslers in front of 18, 19 and 20gr of IMR 4227

whenever I can get to a shooting spot Ill be testing them
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: HighlandLofts on May 08, 2013, 07:55:15 PM: I talked with my son earlier today, He's going to look up what he has and send it to me in a e mail. I'll forward it to you here. He's shot about eight or nine whitetails with his 7 tcu back in New York.
He bought a T/C Encore and bought the 270 barrel for deer hunting, He's got atleast a dozen deer with that combo.
He only uses handguns for deer hunting. I gave him the Contender about ten years ago with two barrels and he has bought several others. My other son didn't want to other Contender I bought so I still have it, I'm going to buy several barrels for the one I have. I'm going to buy mostly fourteen inch barrels.
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Post by: headshot5 on May 10, 2013, 12:27:23 PM: I've have/had a few of them. W748 does pretty nice, and meters really well. I used to shoot 130's in all the pistol barrels. I used to use the old Sierra (single shot pistol) SSP's. When those were discontinued I started using speer 130's. Awesome on coyotes and deer.

I have shot 120's through 154's in my barrels. They all shoot well.

What length barrel is it? I really enjoy the 10" over the Super 14's.

Edit: Also makes a heck of a cast bullet shooter. :tup:

Post a picture if you get time.
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 10, 2013, 01:52:33 PM: its a super 14" The barrel is blued, my frame is stainless, I just couldnt find the 7tcu in a 14 stainless for the price I wanted to spend, all my other barrels are stainless 45-70 and .223, all in super14
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: HighlandLofts on May 10, 2013, 08:18:29 PM: John
How's the recoil on the 45-70? I had a chance to get that in a 14" barrel and passed it up.
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Post by: yorketransport on May 10, 2013, 09:36:01 PM: The 45-70 really isn't bad at all in a 14" Contender. If you can handle a 44 Mag, you can shoot a 45-70.

It was one of my favorite calibers until I reached a point where I wanted more power than I could safely get out of Contender. With heavy bullets it can keep up with the 454.

Andrew
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 10, 2013, 09:58:57 PM: 4570 is fun. I shoot it one handed no problem, even my wife has shot it and likes it. That said, at 50yds it shoots great, at 100yds I'm still dialing it in.
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Post by: argie1891 on May 10, 2013, 11:39:00 PM: i have had a contender in 7tcu for years. got it right after it came out. the following loads showed no high pressure signs in my contender... as a cast bullet shooter i mostly have data for cast but do have some for jacketed bullets. one load that i really thought would be a great deer load was the rcbs 145gr. cast with 28.5 gr. of h335. the average velocity from my 10 inch barrel was 2158fps with a s.d. of 8.4 and an extream spread of 30 fps. i know that sounds hot but like i said it showed no signs of excessive pressure cases fell out and primers looked normal. 22 gr. of rl7 gave 1812 fps but es was 108 with the same bullet.. well i need to find my older record book as i don't have any jacket bullet data in the one that is handy. when i find it i will post more. for years i have been considering re barreling a m-700 in 222 Remington to 7tcu. it should make a real neat little rifle a medium heavy barrel and nice piece of walnut darn now i am thinking again. argie1891
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: HighlandLofts on May 11, 2013, 10:01:00 PM: Here's what my son uses in his 7mmTCU,

For fire forming the brass I use 19 grains of Accurate 1680 with 175 grain speer bullets. You want to use a heavy bullet for forming the cases. I use Hornady 139gr SST for hunting seated at .003 off the lands with excellent results. As always start low and work your way up. what shoots best in mine may not be what is best in yours.

All loads are using the 139gr SSTs. I have used 26 grains or Accurate 2460 with CCI 400 primers averaged 1.2" groups at 100 yards.

I have also used 26.1 grains of Hodgon H322 with Remington 71/2 Benchrest primers. These shot under 1" groups and had a velocity pushing 2000 FPS.

I bought this reloading book for the TCs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Complete-Reloading-Manual-for-the-Thompson-Center-Contender-/140972542802?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item20d29e4b52 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Complete-Reloading-Manual-for-the-Thompson-Center-Contender-/140972542802?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item20d29e4b52)
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: argie1891 on May 13, 2013, 11:57:43 PM: you cant go wrong buying books the only way it is wasted money is if you dont read it. a gun library should have every loading book you can lay your hands on. argie1891
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 14, 2013, 07:52:41 AM: I have books, and the net, but prefer real world loads still as books dont always tell all, nor are 100% accurate. In my reloading experience anyway.

Thanks
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Post by: headshot5 on May 14, 2013, 08:29:52 AM: The best thing I can recommend to you would be to pick up a .22 rimfire barrel. They are awesome for practicing shooting positions and trigger control. It is a stellar way to get good at shooting in the field. I use one for starlings and other pests and you can get fairly accurate shooting offhand. It all helps to make you much steadier, and confident if you decide to hunt with your larger caliber barrels. I know .22 ammo is hard to find, however with a single shot pistol 50, .22 cartridges last you quite a while.
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 14, 2013, 08:32:22 AM: thanks, I have too many .22's as it is, the 223 is very easy to shoot and probably my favorite barrel so far. Have not had a chance to try the 7TCU yet.
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: JohnVH on May 19, 2013, 09:21:31 PM: finally got the 7tcu out today, Three loads, 120gr bullet, IMR 4227 powder

18gr averages 1730-1746fps with almost a 2" group at 40yds

19gr 1835-1865fps and all bullet holes touching at 40yds

20gr 1984-2007fps and pattern opened up quite a bit to string them 2"

So I guess I must settle on 19gr
Title: Re: any 7 tcu people here?
Post by: argie1891 on May 19, 2013, 11:09:48 PM: i always got a bit better accuracy with a bit slower powders like h335 blc2 and rl7. i shot up a lot of 4198 in mine when i first got it but soon discovered other powder that worked better. i also shot mostly heaver bullets and a lot of cast bullets in the 145 gr. range. argie1891