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Post by: wildmanoutdoors on May 07, 2013, 09:18:34 AM
For Salmon you really need a boat for our area. There are some opps for late summer Kings if you want to wade threw mud in Gorst near the titty bar. Lol
Yukon Harbor were Curly creek dumps out has a Silver run late summer you can target from shore easily. There all over but usaully lock jawed. But people do get them on spinners.
Dewatto river also gets Silvers Late summer that are available bank fishing. You want to be here when the river is higher from rains if you can.
Mouth of Chico Creek in Nov is red hot for Chums.
Then of coarse there is the Skoke for Kings aug 1. And Hoodsport for Kings, then Chums at the hatchery. starting Aug.
Dogfish, (sharks) are available off any pier or the PO marina. Drop anything to the bottom and you will catch these easily.
And yes, Saltwater is barbless.
Post by: magnanimous_j on May 07, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
What all would you need for shark i got steel leaders, #1 hook, herring. . . Anything else needed. And how about for salmon
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That will certainly work for sharks, but it might be overkill. I’ve caught dozens of dogfish and sometimes they swallow the hook, but I’ve never had one break a line. Salmon is tough to do without a boat, but I have a 10’5” rod that lets you really chuck a lure out there. Make sure to give your reels a good rinse in fresh water after every trip or the salt will eat through your line in no time. Also, bring a bunch of extra lures because you’re going to snag the bottom as much as anything else.
Since you’re a beginner, you’ll need to learn how to use a baitcaster. It can be frustrating at first, but you’ll get it.
Post by: thegamejr on May 07, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
I have lived in PO all my life. And am an avid fisherman.that's what Im looking forward to is salmon and steelhead want to get a little practice in i need to get my freshwater so i can get some trout
For Salmon you really need a boat for our area. There are some opps for late summer Kings if you want to wade threw mud in Gorst near the titty bar. Lol
Yukon Harbor were Curly creek dumps out has a Silver run late summer you can target from shore easily. There all over but usaully lock jawed. But people do get them on spinners.
Dewatto river also gets Silvers Late summer that are available bank fishing. You want to be here when the river is higher from rains if you can.
Mouth of Chico Creek in Nov is red hot for Chums.
Then of coarse there is the Skoke for Kings aug 1. And Hoodsport for Kings, then Chums at the hatchery. starting Aug.
Dogfish, (sharks) are available off any pier or the PO marina. Drop anything to the bottom and you will catch these easily.
And yes, Saltwater is barbless.
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Post by: thegamejr on May 07, 2013, 10:26:27 AM
the rod o got is 7' 5". And what exactly is a baitcaster haWhat all would you need for shark i got steel leaders, #1 hook, herring. . . Anything else needed. And how about for salmon
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That will certainly work for sharks, but it might be overkill. I’ve caught dozens of dogfish and sometimes they swallow the hook, but I’ve never had one break a line. Salmon is tough to do without a boat, but I have a 10’5” rod that lets you really chuck a lure out there. Make sure to give your reels a good rinse in fresh water after every trip or the salt will eat through your line in no time. Also, bring a bunch of extra lures because you’re going to snag the bottom as much as anything else.
Since you’re a beginner, you’ll need to learn how to use a baitcaster. It can be frustrating at first, but you’ll get it.
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Post by: singleshot12 on May 07, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
And yes, Saltwater is barbless.
And don't forget "single" hooks also
Some friends of mine moved up here from Alabama and wanted to try fishing in the great state of Washington, they could not believe how complicated the fishing rules are here and how every area or body of water has so many differant rules. Back in Alabama you get your fishing licence and just go fishing. But here you basically have to study the regs for several years and have a lawyer present to help interpretate them. Good luck and have fun out there :chuckle:
Post by: Kola16 on May 07, 2013, 11:58:09 AM
Single hooks for salmon. You can use barbless trebles for other fish :tup:And yes, Saltwater is barbless.
And don't forget "single" hooks also
Some friends of mine moved up here from Alabama and wanted to try fishing in the great state of Washington, they could not believe how complicated the fishing rules are here and how every area or body of water has so many differant rules. Back in Alabama you get your fishing licence and just go fishing. But here you basically have to study the regs for several years and have a lawyer present to help interpretate them. Good luck and have fun out there :chuckle:
Post by: thegamejr on May 07, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
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Post by: Kola16 on May 07, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
But a clinch knot works fine too :chuckle:
Post by: Smossy on May 07, 2013, 04:02:22 PM
Does anyone know of any good slatwater fishing palaces in the port orchard area? New to fishing and trying to learn some things. . . What is there to fish out of the sound. I've really only heard about the dogfish :dunno:
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Sixgill Sharks @ night. :tup: Get 20+ feet. Closest related relative to great white sharks. 3rd largest shark in the world I think?
Dont count on ever getting one that big. Largest Ive ever heard caught off the piers is 14 feet.
Post by: Smossy on May 07, 2013, 04:03:13 PM
Nvm cant catch no sixgill on that haha.the rod o got is 7' 5". And what exactly is a baitcaster haWhat all would you need for shark i got steel leaders, #1 hook, herring. . . Anything else needed. And how about for salmon
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That will certainly work for sharks, but it might be overkill. I’ve caught dozens of dogfish and sometimes they swallow the hook, but I’ve never had one break a line. Salmon is tough to do without a boat, but I have a 10’5” rod that lets you really chuck a lure out there. Make sure to give your reels a good rinse in fresh water after every trip or the salt will eat through your line in no time. Also, bring a bunch of extra lures because you’re going to snag the bottom as much as anything else.
Since you’re a beginner, you’ll need to learn how to use a baitcaster. It can be frustrating at first, but you’ll get it.
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Post by: Smossy on May 07, 2013, 04:11:19 PM
What all would you need for shark i got steel leaders, #1 hook, herring. . . Anything else needed. And how about for salmonDepends on the shark your fishing for. For sixgill, your going to have to make your own home-made steel leaders out of heavy duty cable. Most people use (dont quote me on this) about a 10 foot ugly stik rated around 40+lbs (this would be your fishing rod) with some type of heavy duty reel that can hold a ridiculous amount of 40+lb mono. These guys are HEAVY and it will feel like your about to get yanked off the pier. (If night fishing from a pier) Then at the end of your mono, they rig about 3-5 feet of that heavy duty cable with two extra large hooks. I couldnt even guess the size, Theyre the largest you can find locally from what Ive been told.
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For bait they use full size dogfish, 3 feet average, Stick them through side by side one facing left one facing right so they look like wings right above the pectoral fins. Then they do some fancy casting and get it out as far as possible, OR have a kayak to carry the bait out as far as possible and drop over the side of the boat. Then you wait, and wait, and wait, and wait. and If you see your pole move with bait that large, More then likely you have just hooked yourself a sixgill.
This is all just from MY experiences with them. Ive spent probably 100+ nights with shark fishermen out on the tacoma waterfront piers. Mostly Les Davis at night. This time of year if you just go out there, talk to a few of them, check out theyre gear/setup. You will be good to go. Theyre almost never NOT out there. One guy I met out there who does it religiously. Curtis, Hes a heavier set big guy, White dude, Big beard and crazy hair. He would be the guy to talk to about it.
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Post by: thegamejr on May 09, 2013, 12:22:17 AM
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Post by: Smossy on May 09, 2013, 12:38:15 AM
Hey smossy. Are you ever out the port orchard way?Not that i know of, i pretty much stay in the spanaway/roy/tacoma area. No employment keeps me pretty local
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Post by: thegamejr on May 09, 2013, 12:42:38 AM
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Post by: Smossy on May 09, 2013, 12:46:17 AM
Yeah. That makes sense. Well if Im ever out that way i will pm you on here and we could probably get together for somefishing. I Dont know where anything ostensibly out there haYeah if you havent done any fishing man your really missing out. Its one of my favorite things to do. Nothin like wrastlin with some sea monsters
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Post by: lokidog on May 09, 2013, 09:30:42 AM
What all would you need for shark i got steel leaders, #1 hook, herring. . . Anything else needed. And how about for salmon
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That will certainly work for sharks, but it might be overkill. I’ve caught dozens of dogfish and sometimes they swallow the hook, but I’ve never had one break a line. Salmon is tough to do without a boat, but I have a 10’5” rod that lets you really chuck a lure out there. Make sure to give your reels a good rinse in fresh water after every trip or the salt will eat through your line in no time. Also, bring a bunch of extra lures because you’re going to snag the bottom as much as anything else.
Since you’re a beginner, you’ll need to learn how to use a baitcaster. It can be frustrating at first, but you’ll get it.
NOT! A large spinning real will work for any fish, other than the biggest halibut and maybe sixgills, you are likely to catch in Puget sound. I really like the Cabelas Salt Stryker SS50, I just picked up 4 or 5 of them when they changed colors for the new models at $31 each. Put some 30 or 50 lb Power Pro braid on there and you can outcast any baitcasting real. I think the new model goes for about $65. I have used one for over ten years and finally replaced it as one of the housing screws broke and the gears don't mesh correctly. Put this on a 9 or ten foot spinning rod and you should be able to cast a looooong ways off the bank. I put mine on a 6'6" Med heavy generic $18 rod from Big 5 and can cast a 1/2 oz to an 8 oz lure.
Post by: Holg3107 on May 09, 2013, 09:42:31 AM
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NOT! A large spinning real will work for any fish, other than the biggest halibut and maybe sixgills, you are likely to catch in Puget sound. I really like the Cabelas Salt Stryker SS50, I just picked up 4 or 5 of them when they changed colors for the new models at $31 each. Put some 30 or 50 lb Power Pro braid on there and you can outcast any baitcasting real. I think the new model goes for about $65. I have used one for over ten years and finally replaced it as one of the housing screws broke and the gears don't mesh correctly. Put this on a 9 or ten foot spinning rod and you should be able to cast a looooong ways off the bank. I put mine on a 6'6" Med heavy generic $18 rod from Big 5 and can cast a 1/2 oz to an 8 oz lure.
:yeah:
No novice here, avid bait caster user when fishing for bass but in the salt I almost exclusively use spinning gear. I run a cabelas Salt striker (Same as Loki picked it up for $31) with 30# Fireline on a 9' med heavy rod. No problem throwing 2oz. jigs or 3/8oz jigs. The only reason you would need to go to a heavy bait casting set up is for sturgeon, halibut, and shark. Most of the time people aren't casting these setups anyways, they are dropping and jigging so minimal knowledge of a baitcaster is necessary. The setup I described above would also work fine for salmon fishing in the rivers or the sound. Once a boat, downriggers, ect... come in to play everything changes.
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Post by: Smossy on May 09, 2013, 01:04:30 PM
Huh. I was always told that salmon would tear up spin casters.lol WHAT? Who told you that. I use a spinning reel religiously, Ive caught 30lb salmon on my Pflueger 5.2:1 easy.
Post by: Kola16 on May 09, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
:yeah: I have caught 20 lb. fish with my small spinning reel and 10 lb. test :tup:Huh. I was always told that salmon would tear up spin casters.lol WHAT? Who told you that. I use a spinning reel religiously, Ive caught 30lb salmon on my Pflueger 5.2:1 easy.
There are plenty of videos of guys catching HUGE fish (large sharks, marlin, halibut etc.) with spinning reels (bigger than mine of course).
Walmart has a large spinning reel (Shakespeare) for $15 :tup:
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on May 09, 2013, 04:59:03 PM
In fact I fly out tomarrow for 10 days of Keys fishing. Gonna put the Boca's to the test again! ;)
Post by: lokidog on May 09, 2013, 10:13:30 PM
Huh. I was always told that salmon would tear up spin casters.
One of the reels I would bring with me was a lesser quality spinner when I worked on commercial tuna boats, I landed a crap load of mahi mahi, wahoo, and tuna as well as a few 6+ foot sharks with it, never had a problem, and that was with 25 lb test mono back in the day. I hooked one yellowfin tuna about 250 pounds with it, saw him hit it, and fought that thing until I was down to about five turns of line when I busted it off so as not to lose my line. I then fished the rest of the trip with it, no problems.
That Cabelas Salt Stryker is a good deal, especially for the price.
Post by: krism83 on May 28, 2013, 01:03:58 AM
Like mentioned before you can go to the mouth of Curly Creek down in South Colby, just around the point from the Southworth ferry, or the more successful option is find a friend with a boat.