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Title: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: Dave Workman on May 10, 2013, 07:51:46 AM
State court hack shows why gun owners want pistol registry scrapped
 
Almost immediately after yesterday’s revelation that the Washington State administrative office of the courts had been hacked, the Bellevue-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said the case underscores why Washington gun owners “are adamantly opposed to background check records keeping, and want the state’s pistol registry destroyed.”
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/state-court-hack-shows-why-gun-owners-want-pistol-registry-scrapped?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/state-court-hack-shows-why-gun-owners-want-pistol-registry-scrapped?cid=db_articles)
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 10, 2013, 07:55:53 AM
Kind of my thoughts on the handgun registry, too. Thanks for the article, Dave.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 10, 2013, 08:14:48 AM
That is exactly why it should be stopped. The hacker is likely a anti and one could argue that the info received could be used by the anti's for harrasement or harm to the gun owners. I would think in the extreme this could result in a massive lawsuit against the state.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 10, 2013, 08:18:05 AM
That is exactly why it should be stopped. The hacker is likely a anti and one could argue that the info received could be used by the anti's for harrasement or harm to the gun owners. I would think in the extreme this could result in a massive lawsuit against the state.

The records hacked were not gun records. They were court records, some of which contained personal and financial information. The point being made by Alan Gottlieb which Dave highlighted in the article is that if someone had access to these court records, why couldn't they also gain access to details on the handgun registry.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 10, 2013, 09:01:41 AM
That is exactly why it should be stopped. The hacker is likely a anti and one could argue that the info received could be used by the anti's for harrasement or harm to the gun owners. I would think in the extreme this could result in a massive lawsuit against the state.

The records hacked were not gun records. They were court records, some of which contained personal and financial information. The point being made by Alan Gottlieb which Dave highlighted in the article is that if someone had access to these court records, why couldn't they also gain access to details on the handgun registry.
Yes I saw that. I was making a point of how ugly it could get.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 10, 2013, 09:04:42 AM
OK, sorry TF. Yes, it could get ugly.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: Alchase on May 10, 2013, 12:03:52 PM
Dave, do you have any information on what RCW allows the state to collect and keep in a database, hang gun data?
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: HighlandLofts on May 10, 2013, 08:13:56 PM
In New York State you have to obtain a pistol permit before you can hold a pistol at a gun store, The pay for it and get a coupon from the sheriff's dept to go pick up your handgun. They offer two kinds of permits, a target & hunting and then the conceal carry permit. ALL HANDGUNS ARE REGISTERED. They just passed a law that every gun transferred has to go through an FFL dealer.
 About six months ago a newspaper out of New York City ran an article for two complete counties just outside of NYC that had every person that has a pistol permit and what handguns they owned. All of that information is available through the "Freedon Of Information Act".
Personally I don't think it's anyone's business what I own and if I have a conceal carry permit, I got my CPL and bought my guns all through legal channels. It should only be my business what I have, and when I die I hope the old lady doesn't sell the guns for what I said I paid for them.
Title: Re: WA court hack and gun owner privacy
Post by: Hermannr on May 12, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Dave, do you have any information on what RCW allows the state to collect and keep in a database, hang gun data?

RCW 9.41.129  (note the word "MAY"...ya right...)
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