Post by: emac on May 12, 2013, 10:15:55 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on May 12, 2013, 01:51:17 PM
But is it legal do use radios for hunting?
Post by: Bob33 on May 12, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
But is it legal do use radios for hunting?It is legal in Washington.
Post by: ghosthunter on May 12, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
Run them on the GRMS channels.
Post by: xd2005 on May 12, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
Don't forget to get your GMRS license. ;)
Post by: ghosthunter on May 12, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
I can see maybe a construction company or some business but hunters out running around the state I doubt anyone ever gets checked. :twocents:
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs (http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs)
Post by: ghosthunter on May 12, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
I doubt many people are getting the lincense.
Post by: cem3434 on May 12, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
Get garmin rhinos. The basic yellow model is about $169.00.
Run them on the GRMS channels.
I was looking at getting a couple of Rino 120's. Anyone used them or have a review on them?
Post by: pd on May 12, 2013, 04:45:03 PM
Get garmin rhinos. The basic yellow model is about $169.00.
Run them on the GRMS channels.
Costco has that model in a 2-pack set for $320 ($160 each), including the pre-loaded maps.
Post by: ghosthunter on May 12, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Get garmin rhinos. The basic yellow model is about $169.00.
Run them on the GRMS channels.
I was looking at getting a couple of Rino 120's. Anyone used them or have a review on them?
I use 110 have two there are six in mt camp and three or four other Rhino models.
Post by: CasseyM. on June 25, 2013, 10:16:11 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 10:18:01 AM
The problem with two-way radios is they are line-of-sight and will easily get blocked by dense trees, mountains, and even your body. You can get stronger ones with more range, but whether is 30 mile or 5 mile, it still won't go through the mountain.
Don't forget to get your GMRS license. ;)
The FCC has no enforcement for regulations. They're certainly not sending anyone out into the woods during hunting season.
Post by: Mudman on June 25, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
The problem with two-way radios is they are line-of-sight and will easily get blocked by dense trees, mountains, and even your body. You can get stronger ones with more range, but whether is 30 mile or 5 mile, it still won't go through the mountain.
Don't forget to get your GMRS license. ;)
The FCC has no enforcement for regulations. They're certainly not sending anyone out into the woods during hunting season.
So if WDFW stopped enforcement, poaching would be ok too, I assume.
We all know the line about integrity meaning doing the right thing, even when nobody is watching. I'll leave it at that. :)
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 11:36:38 AM
I guess I missed the flow chart for helping me determine which laws you feel are acceptable to break...can you send that over to me so I don't make this mistake again? Thanks!
Post by: lostbackpacker on June 25, 2013, 11:41:23 AM
can't tell you WDFW has ever enforced the rule.
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 11:44:30 AM
you can use the frs radios, but you can not use them for an advantage in harvesting animals. Your buddy cant call you and say " there are 10 cows headed your way up the canyon"
can't tell you WDFW has ever enforced the rule.
Actually, in WA, use of two-way radios is legal.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F)
Can I use two-way radios while hunting?
Yes. There is currently no prohibition on using two-way radios to hunt in Washington. However, if radios are used for location of or herding of game there may be a question of ethics involved.
It is illegal to use radio-telemetry equipment to locate and hunt wildlife with transmitters attached to them.
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 11:48:22 AM
Sorry you got upset that I called you out for advocating breaking te law. As for comparing to poaching, both are the use/taking of a public resource without the proper license.
I guess I missed the flow chart for helping me determine which laws you feel are acceptable to break...can you send that over to me so I don't make this mistake again? Thanks!
Wow. Alrighty then. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: It's the full moon for sure.
Post by: JLS on June 25, 2013, 12:02:54 PM
you can use the frs radios, but you can not use them for an advantage in harvesting animals. Your buddy cant call you and say " there are 10 cows headed your way up the canyon"
can't tell you WDFW has ever enforced the rule.
This is not true in any way.
Other states are different, so check before you go. I know in MT you cannot use them to assist you in taking game in any way. I also know some people who've gotten ticketed there for it.
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 12:04:05 PM
If yes, thank you for your honesty. If no, how is this different?
Post by: sirmissalot on June 25, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs (http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mobile_Radio_Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mobile_Radio_Service)
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 12:27:47 PM
Do you buy a hunting license? Do you only do it because you think you'll get caught?
If yes, thank you for your honesty. If no, how is this different?
Really? Jay walking isn't the same as murder and you break the law every time you drive, I can almost guarantee it. Using GMRS isn't the same as poaching, either. WTH wound you up today?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on June 25, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 25, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 12:49:03 PM
However, I do think it's a bit over the line to actually advocate on this forum (and the forum to condone) for people to break the law (piano, you weren't the only one). :police:
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
Look, if people want to operate a GMRS without a license, whatever. You are breaking the law, whether you like it or not, that's your problem. However you want to justify it, you are in fact taking a public resource that requires a license and using it for free. Again, whatever you do to make yourself feel all warm and fuzzy about it, that's your choice.
However, I do think it's a bit over the line to actually advocate on this forum (and the forum to condone) for people to break the law (piano, you weren't the only one). :police:
Got your point many posts ago. I'm a criminal for even suggesting it. Thanks. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on June 25, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 12:57:36 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 01:20:33 PM
xd2005- just curious, do you have a GMRS license?
Ya think? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 01:23:51 PM
Post by: snowpack on June 25, 2013, 01:36:00 PM
I wonder if there was a change in the law. I thought WA was similar to the way you describe MT. There were some guys that said that they were threatened with tickets from WDFW because they had radios and WDFW could hear somebody talking on the radios helping guide another guy on to a deer. Wardens couldn't prove it was them talking on the radio.you can use the frs radios, but you can not use them for an advantage in harvesting animals. Your buddy cant call you and say " there are 10 cows headed your way up the canyon"
can't tell you WDFW has ever enforced the rule.
This is not true in any way.
Other states are different, so check before you go. I know in MT you cannot use them to assist you in taking game in any way. I also know some people who've gotten ticketed there for it.
Post by: smdave on June 25, 2013, 01:44:44 PM
Yes. There is currently no prohibition on using two-way radios to hunt in Washington. However, if radios are used for location of or herding of game there may be a question of ethics involved.
From
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F)
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on June 25, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 25, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
Can I use two-way radios while hunting?:tup: :yeah:
Yes. There is currently no prohibition on using two-way radios to hunt in Washington. However, if radios are used for location of or herding of game there may be a question of ethics involved.
From
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/82/Can+I+use+two-way+radios+while+hunting%3F)
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 02:45:12 PM
I wonder if there was a change in the law. I thought WA was similar to the way you describe MT. There were some guys that said that they were threatened with tickets from WDFW because they had radios and WDFW could hear somebody talking on the radios helping guide another guy on to a deer. Wardens couldn't prove it was them talking on the radio.you can use the frs radios, but you can not use them for an advantage in harvesting animals. Your buddy cant call you and say " there are 10 cows headed your way up the canyon"
can't tell you WDFW has ever enforced the rule.
This is not true in any way.
Other states are different, so check before you go. I know in MT you cannot use them to assist you in taking game in any way. I also know some people who've gotten ticketed there for it.
There was a change in the WA law. It used to be illegal to report animal activity on radios while you were hunting. That's no longer the case.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 25, 2013, 02:51:57 PM
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
Post by: fishseeker on June 25, 2013, 03:05:14 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 25, 2013, 03:05:41 PM
Post by: Mudman on June 25, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
Post by: smdave on June 25, 2013, 04:27:50 PM
To enforce a radio ban while hunting you would also have to ban cell phones!!! Not happening.
It is not against the Law in Washington to use a two way radio while hunting.
Post by: bobcat on June 25, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
Post by: b0bbyg on June 25, 2013, 04:49:54 PM
When you have a down animal or blood trail it is way easier to guide someone to your location than realy co-ord's by voice.
I think many people do not even know using the GMRS channels would technically require a license. I for one will not make a citizens arrest but now I am curious what one would cost. and is it per person or per group?
Maybe HUNT-WA could get one giant permit for all users :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: smdave on June 25, 2013, 04:54:25 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on June 25, 2013, 04:59:37 PM
Ok hypothetical situation...ethical or not?
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
This scenario is illegal in Wash.
Post by: xd2005 on June 25, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
Ok hypothetical situation...ethical or not?
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
Does partner have license to hunt, or is he assisting with the hunt without a license? :chuckle:
Post by: Kazekurt on June 25, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
Post by: JLS on June 25, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
Ok hypothetical situation...ethical or not?
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
This scenario is illegal in Wash.
No, it isn't.
Post by: JLS on June 25, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
Ok hypothetical situation...ethical or not?
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
This isn't the way I hunt, but to each their own.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on June 25, 2013, 08:06:24 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on June 25, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on June 25, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
We set check in times and have the radios off until than or we here a shot.
One year we were blood trailing . My buddy had one my rhinos I had the other, I got a shot stopped to reload the muzzle stuffer and my buddy went on.
I dropped my rhino unknowingly .
Fast forward next morning . No rhino. Grabbed my other rhino and polled my rhinos position. 2500 ft above me up the road.
I knew the general area where I reloaded. Tracked right to the rhino.
It had lay in the open all night in a rain storm. When I got to it it's batteries were dead. The internal memory battery I guess was answering the polls.
New batteries and good to go.
Some of the better models have the ability to text message back and forth.
Buy a Rhino.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 26, 2013, 06:15:25 AM
Ok hypothetical situation...ethical or not?
Partner and I spot elk on the opposite hillside.
I begin stalk.
Elk change direction and feed towards where I am.
Partner gets on radio and tells me to stay put, as the elk are coming right at me.
This scenario is illegal in Wash.
No, it isn't.
I wonder if he didn't read a single other sentence in this entire thread.
Post by: Alchase on June 26, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
You only need a FCC GMRS license if you are using the GMRS frequencies within the United States.
Almost all GMRS radios also support FRS frequencies, which can be used without a license. Channels 8-14 on a typical 22 channel consumer radio reserved exclusively for FRS. These channels can be used license-free, but are limited to a half watt of transmit power and will have limited range.
From the WDFW Help page:
39. Can I use two-way radios while hunting?
Yes. There is currently no prohibition on using two-way radios to hunt in Washington. However, if radios are used for location of or herding of game there may be a question of ethics involved. It is illegal to use radio-telemetry equipment to locate and hunt wildlife with transmitters attached ...
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/categories/Hunting/General+Hunting+Rules/?page=2 (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/categories/Hunting/General+Hunting+Rules/?page=2)