Post by: philepe on May 15, 2013, 05:59:26 AM
Post by: Jingles on May 15, 2013, 06:43:50 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 06:51:45 AM
I would guess a smaller tractor with a HST may have limited capabilities in running a brush hog for endless hours, but that certainly may not be a need of yours. I know that there are high quality mid mount mowers, tillers and back hoes available from Deere for that machine. Good attachments from other manufacturers are also available.
For digging holes, tiling food plots, moving dirt and mowing, I'm sure you'll be happy.
I'm not sure where you are located, we use Barnett for parts and service, and they have been first rate. Their pick up and delivery for service is very reasonable.
Post by: Special T on May 15, 2013, 06:54:10 AM
Since you are going new i would go as big as you can get away with, UNLESS you are trying to use it in a landscaping business in tight quarters. These small machines do lots of work, but if you go up a step or 2 you won't need to rent as much bigger equiptment like we have. :twocents:
Post by: Woodchuck on May 15, 2013, 06:59:35 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 07:15:01 AM
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/forum.php (http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/forum.php)
Post by: headshot5 on May 15, 2013, 07:18:13 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 07:22:04 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on May 15, 2013, 07:41:42 AM
Post by: headshot5 on May 15, 2013, 07:49:30 AM
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You wouldn't be trying to rig a jelly doughnut, would you?
Some of the best DIY ideas I have ever heard of come from there. Farm Engineering at its best.
Post by: BigD on May 15, 2013, 08:31:36 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
QuoteYou wouldn't be trying to rig a jelly doughnut, would you?
Some of the best DIY ideas I have ever heard of come from there. Farm Engineering at its best.
Their welding guru is from your area
Post by: kisfish on May 15, 2013, 08:42:40 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 15, 2013, 08:43:11 AM
So Im just about to pull the trigger on buying a new tractor, I don't want to start the green vs orange vs blah blah blah debate, but Im looking at a 2012 John Deere 2320 with a front end loader and box blade. Any recommendations? I will be using it for gardening, moving firewood, dragging logs here and there, snow clearing if we have another one of "those" winters, farm chores etc. Im not sure if I should go with the next model up with bigger tires, engine, and hydraulics is it needed? or just be happy with this model.
How much land do you own, or plan to own? Yes they are nice tractors, but they do carry larger price tag then some other well known brands. Think blue T1510 New Holland ! :tup:
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 08:55:58 AM
I have a 98 JD 1050 fwd. I love it. It will do all the work I need it to. We have 7 ac. and use it all the time.
Do you mean '88? A 1050 is a 950 with a turbo, larger tires and differnt gear ratios.
I think they stopped making this series well before 1998
Post by: Special T on May 15, 2013, 08:59:09 AM
I'll second getting a tractor one size, or 2 bigger than you think you will.
Post by: Gringo31 on May 15, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
IF you really want one, I know a vet that has one that is almost new that he would really like to get rid of (IF its not in the shop)
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 15, 2013, 09:46:47 AM
I'd stay clear of new holland.
IF you really want one, I know a vet that has one that is almost new that he would really like to get rid of (IF its not in the shop)
Why would you stay clear of a New Holland Gringo31?
Post by: headshot5 on May 15, 2013, 09:55:15 AM
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Why would you stay clear of a New Holland Gringo31?
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IF you really want one, I know a vet that has one that is almost new that he would really like to get rid of (IF its not in the shop)
Looks pretty self-explanitory to me.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 15, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
QuoteWhy would you stay clear of a New Holland Gringo31?
QuoteIF you really want one, I know a vet that has one that is almost new that he would really like to get rid of (IF its not in the shop)
Looks pretty self-explanitory to me.
Which model, and what is the problem with it?
Post by: Gringo31 on May 15, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
I realize there is always a lemon in the group, but he feels hozed by both the quality of product and service.
Post by: kisfish on May 15, 2013, 02:08:50 PM
I have a 98 JD 1050 fwd. I love it. It will do all the work I need it to. We have 7 ac. and use it all the time.
Do you mean '88? A 1050 is a 950 with a turbo, larger tires and differnt gear ratios.
I think they stopped making this series well before 1998
Yep your right. Got the year totally messed up :sry:. I pulled out the sales receipt and it's an 87. Still doesn't change the love for it. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on May 15, 2013, 06:32:28 PM
Post by: philepe on May 15, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
I have 5 acres, 1/3 wooded, then sloped meadow with grass which I may use a brush hog to mow along with controlling the blackberries.....will a brush hog cut grass or just flatten it down????? only about 1/2 acre of lawn which I will use a riding mower for.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 15, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
The issue with YM is that their dealers come and go with regularity: Cub to YM to Cub and YM to Kioti ad nauseam. Green stays green, even when they are a YM Deere.
YM's are also butt ugly.
Post by: ICEMAN on May 15, 2013, 09:11:02 PM
I bought it to build our home and perform all dirtwork.
I put in the road into our building site, cleared trees with it, dug an extra deep crawlspace, performed all the backfill, all trenching, all grading, even dug the septic trenches and holes for 2 1200gallon septic tanks.
Awesome machine. Never had a problem yet. Definitely a keeper.
Post by: KFhunter on May 15, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
this one looks really rough and overpriced
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/3804705627.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/grd/3804705627.html)
this one looks better, smaller
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/grq/3775102955.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/grq/3775102955.html)
little bigger
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/grd/3778521080.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/grd/3778521080.html)
JD 30 hp class tractor
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/grd/3807092500.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/grd/3807092500.html)
Dad had an L305DT I abused the hell out of it and it lasted through me an 3 other brothers working it FAR harder than it was designed for.
I jumped it, I rolled it - I did chit to that tractor no tractor should have done to it and when it was traded in it was still going strong.
dandy little tractor
Post by: bucklucky on May 15, 2013, 09:25:14 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on May 15, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
get a used tractor off CL
The problem with a used tractor is guys don't want to let them go for a used price.
I got mine new for maybe $1000 down and 0% interest...
Post by: KFhunter on May 15, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on May 15, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
payments suck
Agree.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on May 15, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
:yeah: Ain't that the truth.get a used tractor off CL
The problem with a used tractor is guys don't want to let them go for a used price.
I got mine new for maybe $1000 down and 0% interest...
Post by: philepe on May 15, 2013, 11:24:57 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 16, 2013, 07:36:33 AM
Id stay away from the grey market tractors , you may "save " some money but in the long run you will pay more . Parts can be hard to come by also.
Even though the OP isn't looking at grey market machines, Bucklucky's advice is really good, and could probably be extrapolated to variously named and generic machines imported from China like Montana, YTM, Tytan etc etc etc. With those machines you have a very real possibility of local dealers walking away from their supplier and support just drying up. There is also this problem, albeit much less severe, when you buy secondary brands Mahindra, Kioti, Bobcat and the like. Manufacturers like Kioti and Mahindra aren't going away, but they sure could drastically change their dealership structure. People who bought Bobcats sure lost their once highly touted name and support.
New Yanmars aren't grey market, but YM is the poster child for grey market. YM has entered and left the North American market several times. Many refurbished YM machines formerly used in Japanese collectives and in Vietnam have been brought to America. Because of safety concerns YM has gone out of their way to distance themselves from these imported machines, and taken legal action against their dealers who import and support these machines.
Another common grey market machine is the hobby sized Komatsu D20 and 21 dozer.
Post by: Kioti on May 16, 2013, 07:59:15 AM
Bought it from the dealer with only 410 hrs on it. It now has only 831 hrs.
It runs my tiller and brush hog perfectly!
No complaints on my Kioti.
Post by: Special T on May 16, 2013, 08:09:30 AM
Post by: bucklucky on May 16, 2013, 08:27:45 AM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on May 16, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
Post by: actionshooter on May 16, 2013, 10:11:19 PM
I wouldn't get a HST, you loose too much HP and in the little machines there isn't enough to spare.
Nothing wrong with yanmar engines, they are the largest diesel engine producers in the world.
Post by: steen on May 16, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 17, 2013, 08:29:31 PM
I went through this same dilemma a while back. Found this one for pretty cheap, works like a champ.
A Dorf? or a Case?
Post by: KFhunter on May 17, 2013, 08:32:44 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on May 17, 2013, 10:04:33 PM
looks like a ford N
Yep, '48 8N. Guy I bought it from rebuilt it, runs great, starts every time. The only thing I don't like is the PTO doesn't disengage, but I have an external clutch. I wouldn't sell it for twice what I bought it for.
Post by: KFhunter on May 17, 2013, 10:48:32 PM
Post by: bucklucky on May 18, 2013, 08:12:28 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi112.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn185%2Fcharliestaxidermy%2F152jpg800x533_zpse34477b0-1_zpseebc80cd.jpg&hash=2e57a16157c35dbcb324912ac29d1d0b2ba4abef) (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/charliestaxidermy/media/152jpg800x533_zpse34477b0-1_zpseebc80cd.jpg.html)
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 18, 2013, 08:18:19 AM
Post by: Fishstiq on May 18, 2013, 10:06:53 AM
Get a tractor with calcium in the tires, makes a huge difference if you are used to a farm tractor. We have a 24 horse, would have liked a bigger one but not practical for tight squeezes. I had a bit of adjusting to do after growing up on a farm and driving the "real thing" then going to a "garden" tractor. We use ours a lot and it is enough for the most part.
How so? :dunno:
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 18, 2013, 10:25:23 AM
Windolph's were a small dozer built in Oregon in the fourties and fifties. It was powered by a Briggs. Struck Magnadozer's are similar and still being built in Wisconsin.
The Taylor was designed in America and built in China in the late 70's or early 80's. Taylor was apparently the direct precursor of the small Rino-Tytan-Montana-Nortac-Yuchai inexpensive sub-forty HP dozers still being imported into America.
Post by: Skillet on May 18, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
The second, larger grey market tractor I bought I researched the daylights out of and made sure it was as "standard" as possible and that parts are available. It is a Yanmar YM2020D. 20 PTO HP and the PowerShift trans (3 shuttle shift gear ranges and a 4 speed gear box).
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg10%2F5681%2Fimg00054201202121416.jpg&hash=391d9c198592c070454d64bb8ccf0115c456b383)
Had a front loader installed, and it does a great job pulling a 4 ft brushhog, as 6' back blade, a 52" wide rototiller, a 14" single bottom 3pt plow, etc., etc. It was a very common model and I have parts sources (as noted above, not your local Yanmar dealer!) for nearly everything I need to fix on it if it ever comes to that.
If you got that route, one thing to be cautious of is an older Yanmar with a shiny new paint job and ridiculously low hours on the meter. That is likely a Viet Nam refurbished unit. Run, don't walk, away from those machines.
Post by: PolarBear on May 18, 2013, 11:16:24 AM
Post by: Skillet on May 18, 2013, 11:28:10 AM
For most everything else other than , though, the 8N is a great route to go. Burns a little more fuel per HP hour, but unless you're doing full production work on a farm and running it hard and often, I don't think the difference between diesel and gas is too much to worry about.
Post by: PolarBear on May 18, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
Post by: Skillet on May 18, 2013, 11:35:50 AM
Get a tractor with calcium in the tires, makes a huge difference if you are used to a farm tractor. We have a 24 horse, would have liked a bigger one but not practical for tight squeezes. I had a bit of adjusting to do after growing up on a farm and driving the "real thing" then going to a "garden" tractor. We use ours a lot and it is enough for the most part.
How so? :dunno:
Increases traction significantly. Also acts as a counterbalance if you're doing front loader work. Hell on the grass, though...
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 18, 2013, 11:38:42 AM
Can also make it less tippy on a side slope. A three point ballast box is also good.
Post by: PolarBear on May 18, 2013, 11:38:53 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 18, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
But I can run my 950 all day long in 2WD and only touch the brakes when I park it.
A ROPS is nice if you have hills
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 22, 2013, 08:46:30 AM
the 8N's ground speed is just too fast relative to the PTO speed, even with an aftermarket Sherman 12 speed (Hi-Low) gear box.
I looked up those old Ford's on tractordata. Boy, they were fast (relatively) in first-low. I do all my brush hogging at less than 2 mph, I wonder how that would work with a 8N?
Post by: Skillet on May 22, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
the 8N's ground speed is just too fast relative to the PTO speed, even with an aftermarket Sherman 12 speed (Hi-Low) gear box.
I looked up those old Ford's on tractordata. Boy, they were fast (relatively) in first-low. I do all my brush hogging at less than 2 mph, I wonder how that would work with a 8N?
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/2/2/223-ford-8n-transmission.html (http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/2/2/223-ford-8n-transmission.html)
Great info on the 8N's there. I've seen plenty of 8n's pulling brush hogs, so it can be done - but at a much faster pace than your preferred 2mph.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 22, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
but at a much faster pace than your preferred 2mph.
:yeah: :lol4:
Post by: PolarBear on May 22, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
Post by: Skillet on May 22, 2013, 09:34:29 AM
but at a much faster pace than your preferred 2mph.
:yeah: :lol4:
I have an "extra" gear on my Yanmar that is above 1st on the gearbox. It is locked out unless you pull a knob and it lets the lever go all the way up. I have no idea how slow it goes, but at rated engine speed you can hardly tell it's even moving. I'll have to measure distance over time one of these days and calculate the ground speed. I'd wager it's in the .075-.15 MPH range, though.
Post by: motg9_6 on May 22, 2013, 09:37:33 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 22, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
Some of the big machine with creeper gearing can go full RPM at 0.15 mph!
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 22, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
I used to run a service truck as a master Deere technician for RDO in sunnyside. Started at Barnett implement in Yakima, both great dealers. Great service and parts availability which brings me too my point. If you buy an off brand tractor parts and service will be less than par. Stick with green or orange. Blue red and whatever other colors are less than par for service in our area and getting parts can be a pain.
Even old Yanmar Deeres can be a problem for parts
Post by: Skillet on May 22, 2013, 09:48:25 AM
I used to run a service truck as a master Deere technician for RDO in sunnyside. Started at Barnett implement in Yakima, both great dealers. Great service and parts availability which brings me too my point. If you buy an off brand tractor parts and service will be less than par. Stick with green or orange. Blue red and whatever other colors are less than par for service in our area and getting parts can be a pain.
I'll say it again, you've got to know what you're getting into before you buy. Not all gray market tractors are created equal. Blanket statements like this above, however, are not true - especially if you can turn your own wrench. You pay a LOT of extra money per HP for shiny green or orange paint, just for the honor of paying a premium for their service techs.
If a guy has an ounce of DIY in him, and having an older but low hour tractor that may be down for a couple of days while parts arrive isn't going to lose the farm, a grey market tractor is worth looking at and considering. I have two (one Yanmar and one Kubota), and have no regrets.
Post by: motg9_6 on May 22, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
Post by: Special T on May 24, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Post by: bucklucky on May 24, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on May 24, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
Post by: Special T on May 25, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
Post by: philepe on May 26, 2013, 06:47:13 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 07:37:37 AM
Their repair facilities are probably the largest in Snohomish County. I have never dealt with them because I've always been green, but by the looks of things, they can fix and sell anything.
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 08:22:13 AM
what part of my above comment makes it a blanket one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off
Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement. Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines. For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into. There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines. My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english. I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week. I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada. That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush. My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture. It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability. I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one. There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk. The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 08:30:00 AM
What kind of $ is a crazy deal?:yeah:
If it is truly the same as a Bobcat, you've got the best of both worlds. Parts will be really easy for that machine.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 08:33:26 AM
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 08:37:55 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 08:55:07 AM
Bobcat sold their CUT's thru ag dealers, but broadly hinted that all Bobcat dealers would support these machines. And that was something that that the construction end didn't really want to get involved in, especially after Bobcat left the CUT market. I'm sure if you bought a Bobcat CUT from say Towne and Country in Monroe, and walked in looking for parts, you wouldn't even know that the brand didn't even exist anymore.
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 09:08:33 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 09:10:31 AM
Post by: bucklucky on May 26, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 09:24:07 AM
What Bobcat Ag dealers?
I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".
Post by: wildweeds on May 26, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
My uncles are farmers,they've got a tractor from every camp except kabota,theyve got Deeres,Allis Chalmers and an international.Really doesn't matter who's make and model of tractor you buy the parts are over priced on all of them.I've got a New holland TC-30 manual transmission..................I've pulled a stuck John Deere 230 hp 4X4 out of the field with it.I've got 720 hours on it and it's still like new,I use it for tilling,grading,brushhoggin,stump removal/land clearing.I've got alot of diseased alder trees.Bought a Factory woodds Backhoe attachment off of craigslist for it.
As mentioned earlier,I looked at buying one and hymmmed and hawed,Rented one for a weekend and then thought I could justify the payment on the theory I would use it at least 8 hours per month.Got the 0% financing for 36 months put down 5K and three years later it was paid for @ 375 bucks per month.A little more than the 250 rental for 8 hours but well worth it in the long run.All the dealers have a 72 month 0% term now it seems.Tractors are handier than a shirt pocket if you own some acreage that isn't pressed out manicured when you buy it.
Get a tractor with calcium in the tires, makes a huge difference if you are used to a farm tractor. We have a 24 horse, would have liked a bigger one but not practical for tight squeezes. I had a bit of adjusting to do after growing up on a farm and driving the "real thing" then going to a "garden" tractor. We use ours a lot and it is enough for the most part.
Post by: motg9_6 on May 26, 2013, 09:29:18 AM
what part of my above comment makes it a blanket one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off
Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement. Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines. For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into. There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines. My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english. I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week. I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada. That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush. My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture. It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability. I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one. There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk. The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.
Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".
Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers. Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one. I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.
What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories.
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 09:44:19 AM
http://what part of my above comment makes it a blanket one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off
Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement. Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines. For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into. There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines. My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english. I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week. I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada. That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush. My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture. It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability. I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one. There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk. The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.
Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.
what part of my above comment makes it a blanket one? you should really know what a grey market tractor is before you spout off
Not spouting off, I know well what a grey market machine is and stand by my statement. Your comment that "If you buy a grey market tractor parts and service will be less than par" is incorrect for all grey market machines. For a third time, I'll say you have to know what you're getting into. There are websites that specialize in parts for gray market machines. My gray market Kubota is a rice-paddy tired B6000 4WD with the japanese script decals instead of english. I needed to rebuild the steering box for it because I made a mistake and left it out over the winter and water got in it, and a quick search had a donor box in my hands in less than a week. I also replaced all the tines on the tiller; another quick web search got those out of Canada. That did take longer than a week, but I'm sure that was only because I told him to take his time as I wasn't in a rush. My grey market Yanmar is a YM2020D of 1982 manufacture. It is one of a dozen or so early grey YM models with excellent parts availability. I did a lot of looking at parts availability prior to buying that one. There are many grey market Yanmars that I wouldn't have if you gave it to me just because of a lack of parts availability (FXX-series, for example), but the one I have is a great machine for which I have never had to wait for either repair or service parts. It works like a champ and is far from junk. The best part is I could buy three of these for the price of a comparable new green or orange machine.
Funny you made my point when you said you had to wait for parts then you also said you never had to wait for parts so I'm done talking to you because you contradict yourself.
Funny you replied to my post when you said you were done talking to me... :chuckle:
You can twist what I said any way you want to feel like you got a win, dude. Happy grey market tractor owner here that will continue to destroy the myths about them that folks like you keep pushing.
*not sure what the double quote is all about...
Post by: Skillet on May 26, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".
Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers. Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one. I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.
What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories
Just did a little web search, looks like Kioti is a subsidiary of Daedong. Kioti makes a model for Massey as well. Looks like everybody is in bed with everybody else in the tractor biz...
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 26, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
I should have said "former Bobcat ag dealer".
Many of them are now Kioti or Yanmar dealers. Kiotis look like nice machines, and I wouldn't have a qualm of buying one. I think there will always be adequate support and dealers.
What I would stay away from are the generic machines from generic Chinese factories
Just did a little web search, looks like Kioti is a subsidiary of Daedong. Kioti makes a model for Massey as well. Looks like everybody is in bed with everybody else in the tractor biz...
Yes. YM=JD and YM. Kioti=Bobcat, Kioti and others. The smaller brands build parts for the biggies. CNH=Case, IH, New Holland, Ford and I think Oliver. ACGO=Massey, Challenger and several Euro brands. Etc etc etc
Post by: Whitpirate on May 26, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
What kind of $ is a crazy deal?
I'm told I can get a 30 horse at Valley Tractor in Monroe for 14k plus tax
Post by: Fishstiq on May 26, 2013, 10:15:12 AM
...handier than a shirt pocket...
Hope you don't mind, I'm stealing this one! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Kioti on May 27, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
My Kioti LB1914 works for me...and has never failed to let me down.
Check this thread out.....
http://www.tractor.com/manufacturers/bobcat/2012-bobcat-ct440-review-1490.html (http://www.tractor.com/manufacturers/bobcat/2012-bobcat-ct440-review-1490.html)
Post by: MagKarl on May 27, 2013, 09:02:37 AM
Post by: snocohunter on May 27, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
Some nice old tractors in Snohomish. A restored Deere 420 crawler, a poorly maintained and modified Windolph and a Taylor.
Windolph's were a small dozer built in Oregon in the fourties and fifties. It was powered by a Briggs. Struck Magnadozer's are similar and still being built in Wisconsin.
The Taylor was designed in America and built in China in the late 70's or early 80's. Taylor was apparently the direct precursor of the small Rino-Tytan-Montana-Nortac-Yuchai inexpensive sub-forty HP dozers still being imported into America.
I just stumbled upon this thread and was surprised to see my uncle's old john deere 420 dozer in your picture. I grew up riding around on that thing and watching it do things it was probably never designed to do. I will always remember the sound of that thing running. He has a lot more lawn then they used to, and that's why the deere is now at the body shop pulling gravel duty and other odd jobs. I think he still has his old ford tractor he restored too, probably an 8N don't really know my tractors. But also a kubota for the grass at home.
Post by: Kioti on May 28, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
Not bad for a 1993 model Kioti.
Post by: fernsjd41 on June 05, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
I have a 98 JD 1050 fwd. I love it. It will do all the work I need it to. We have 7 ac. and use it all the time.
Do you mean '88? A 1050 is a 950 with a turbo, larger tires and differnt gear ratios.
I think they stopped making this series well before 1998
1050 doesn't have a turbo