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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Mongo Hunter on May 20, 2013, 08:03:16 AM

Title: Takedown Rifles
Post by: Mongo Hunter on May 20, 2013, 08:03:16 AM: Anyone have any experience with them? I always liked the idea of a full power hunting rifle in a small case for traveling. Kinda like the idea of a Thompson rifle in like .308 that I can take apart and put in a small pelican case for when I take my trips out of state for hunting. I know some of the takedowns are super high end and are also REALLY expensive, the Thompson was the only one I could think of as a good balance of retained accuracy and cost.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: Skillet on May 20, 2013, 08:13:50 AM: I like the Browning BLR Lightweight Takedown model for this. Available in both long and short actions.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: AWS on May 20, 2013, 09:22:41 AM: Used a Savage 99 in 250 Sav.(250-3000) for many years, You can find them in 300 Sav. also, which is very close to the 308 Win in power.

My old Savage, sold it a few years ago to fund another project
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi6.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy222%2FBrowndaug%2F250-3000TD001.jpg&hash=6bf858901b3b614aaa654bbf83b2632dd41b2889) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Browndaug/media/250-3000TD001.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: headshot5 on May 20, 2013, 09:32:39 AM: Yeah there are a few different ones out there. Remington 141 pump, Savage (24) over-under rifle/shotgun, NEF handi-rifles (single shot), Thompson Center (contender,TCR, Encore, and the New Dimension bolt rifle), Savage 219 single shot, savage 99 lever. I have used all but the TC dimension (not interested). All have worked well for what I was doing.

Regardless of how confident I am in repeatability of accuracy, after take down/reassembly I usually take 1 shot to verify zero before hunting big game. I have yet to have one lose zero, but I like to double-check.

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The biggest factor I have found is torquing the fasteners to the same amount consistenly (EG. stocks on encore), and as long as you don't have a bad scope/scope mount they should be good. The best thing to do is do a breakdown/shoot test. Breakdown your rifle, reassemble and shoot then repeat. Do a 10 shot group and number your impacts on the target, it should give you an idea of how repeatable the weapon will be.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: Mongo Hunter on May 20, 2013, 12:04:58 PM: Never thought about the BLR didn't know they had a takedown version. and I never thought about the Thompson losing accuracy when putting the screws back in. the only downside I see to the browning is they are still up there in cost, around $1000. seems like a bit much for a rifle that Im only gunna probly use going out of state, than again if it holds its zero it might be worth it. I also tried checking out the Marlin Co-pilot but that's even WORSE $2400! The saveage looks good too just seems to be tougher to find and the ones I am finding are beat to hell or they want an arm and leg for lol.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: ORCA_SIX on May 20, 2013, 12:14:00 PM: If you want to look at some expensive takedown rifles. There is EDM Arms and Nemesis Arms who made the Bourne Legacy movie rifle, which they basically got from EDM.

http://www.edmarms.com/main.htm (http://www.edmarms.com/main.htm)

http://www.nemesisarms.com/nemesis_arms_products.html (http://www.nemesisarms.com/nemesis_arms_products.html)
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: jackelope on May 20, 2013, 12:20:24 PM: My encore with 4 different rifle barrels is repeatedly consistent. I've got the Bellm oversized hinge pin and it shoots the same every time, even with different stocks.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: whacker1 on May 20, 2013, 12:30:50 PM: More expensive than you are probably looking at, but this you can do and comes with fitted box and all.

Blaser R8 Professional
http://www.blaser-usa.com/index.php?id=1175&L=1 (http://www.blaser-usa.com/index.php?id=1175&L=1)

video
http://www.blaser-usa.com/index.php?id=1008&L=1 (http://www.blaser-usa.com/index.php?id=1008&L=1)

I think they are priced in the $3000-3800 range if i recall correctly

Here is an article on it from American rifleman
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/blaser-r8-rifle/ (http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/blaser-r8-rifle/)
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: Skillet on May 20, 2013, 12:50:56 PM: Quote from: Mongo Hunter on May 20, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
Never thought about the BLR didn't know they had a takedown version. and I never thought about the Thompson losing accuracy when putting the screws back in. the only downside I see to the browning is they are still up there in cost, around $1000. seems like a bit much for a rifle that Im only gunna probly use going out of state, than again if it holds its zero it might be worth it. I also tried checking out the Marlin Co-pilot but that's even WORSE $2400! The saveage looks good too just seems to be tougher to find and the ones I am finding are beat to hell or they want an arm and leg for lol.

When you're talking takedown rifles, you are asking for another function to be engineered into that gun. That particular function affects accuracy, so if you want a cheap takedown gun, you can expect poor repeatability between takedown/reassembly. With a BLR, if you go with the scout rifle style scope mounting, you've taken out a variable and kept the barrel and sight aligned. It's got a bolt-rifle style locking lug bolt as well.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: Bofire on May 20, 2013, 01:05:37 PM: :) :) http://www.jarrettrifles.com/prohunter.html (http://www.jarrettrifles.com/prohunter.html)

scope these out
Carl
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: high country on May 21, 2013, 06:25:14 PM: I am building a takedown marlin in the near future.....I will post some pics.
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: yorketransport on May 23, 2013, 07:23:47 PM: You could just use a Savage. :dunno: You can turn one into a take down in about 16 minutes.

Pull the barrel, drill and tap the barrel nut for a set screw, screw the barrel back onto the action, set the headspace, lock the set screw, then go shoot. It works really well.

Andrew
Title: Re: Takedown Rifles
Post by: philepe on May 27, 2013, 04:35:32 PM: Not technically a "take down" gun but an AR in 6.8 is pretty darn sweet. :tup: Fits in a very small bag for carrying. It is usually considered a 300-350 yard cartridge though